The sad part is, the only difference between an articulate troll and someone looking for a meaningful debate is the ability for said troll to concede that they are wrong when confronted with a superior argument. I don't recall TAM ever doing so.
For some reason I have yet to be able to identify, young people are more involved in the voting process than perhaps any time since the Vietnam War era.
My guess would be because of section 2, which references section 1, of your post.
Please tell me how letting the public see a treaty (that could very well impact our freedoms) during the negotiation process will in any way cost jobs. Please, please, please explain it, I really can't wait to read it.
Neither you or the article state what type of IP law was "violated". Are they claiming that the symbols are trademarked or copyrighted?
Either way it's silly, but trademark would make it slightly less silly. Also, if I've made some logic error that renders my entire question null, straighten me out. (It happens a lot on Fridays)
I was just thinking that learning to have lawyer thinking is the same as learning to sell the proverbial t-shirts
In what world is learning the ins and outs of the legal system comparable to "learning" how to accept money for a product? (in this case, looooooots of shirts)
I was thinking about this topic yesterday, and I am not going to feel bad for any new artists who sign one-sided contracts with record labels. It sounds harsh, but they have options now, and if they choose to sign a shitty contract, they deserve to be bound to it. If they can't make it in this newly structured landscape of digital media and the internet, then so be it. Not everyone *deserves* to be a professional musician just because they can know how to play an instrument.
They are part of that Microsoft-Sony-Tech culture in which if you have the most lawyers, you can take anything.
I would think that most of the people who frequent this site (except for the trolls) are decidedly Anti-Sony, vaguely anti-Microsoft, and definitely against the "He with the most lawyers, wins" way of the world.
So, since you're clearly new around here, welcome to TechDirt. :)
More on point, and has been stated several times before (just in this post, even) Trademark laws are designed *solely* to protect customers. I should not have to worry about buying a bottle of Joe's Soda with a Coca Cola label on it. Further, even if, for whatever reason, the Dick's *had* trademarked the term "Nexus", they would have to be using it in the same market (i.e., phones) for it to apply to this device.
Lastly, I would like an explanation on what possible *harm* or *disservice* this does to the Dick Family that they would like it to stop.
I'm sorry, but *what*? A quick read of the above story will clear things up:
The Dick Estate does not have a trademark on Nexus anything. Nor could it get one since it does not use the term in commerce. Oh, and since the phone is in a totally different business, it likely wouldn't violate the trademark that the Dick Estate couldn't get anyway.
See? There is *zero* legal basis for this. Not to mention, Nexus is a real word. Hence, it's a money grab-- she is hoping that Google will toss some money at her to make her go away. I pray they do not.
No, seriously, dude, stop it. One more time and I swear I'm gonna hit you in the nose with a rolled up newspaper.
The very first thing that is required is that the work (in this case a watch) is purchased.
Which, it was.
TFA:
Some watches that were initially sold in Europe and intended for that market were resold to Costco, which imported them into the US.
Note the key word "sold" there. Further reading will result in the word "resold". I know, crazy, right?
Thus, while they boxes they are in have never been opened, the product has in fact been sold at retail
This has no bearing on anything. At all.
Now, if CostCo sells these "used" goods without indicating that they are used, there would be an issue there as well, not for copyright, but rather as a false representation.
I am beginning to think you don't know the definition of "used", or that it is different than "sold". You do realize that almost everything you buy has been sold at least once, unless you're buying straight from the manufacturer, right? Please tell me you do.
Many companies do not honor guarantees for products sold outside of their home market, or will only honor them if you "carry in" the product to the service center in it's home market, as is their right.
Proof, please. I have returned things that were still under the manufacturer's warranty, and not once did they ask where I bought it, or for how much.
There are some interesting implications here...
In that yet *another* company is trying to misuse IP laws to fit their own agenda, yes. Very interesting.
So, if I set up a series of mirrors to bounce the reflection of said guy's picture from his house to my house, I'm infringing? Does copyright extend to the actual light that bounces off said picture, or am I free to do with that light as I please? (Like, direct that light to some photo-sensitive film?)
Okay, I'm not sure if you're being a troll or if you're actually ignorant about this topic, but giving you the benefit of the doubt, you really need to check out Linux, if only so you stop saying really stupid things about it.
Power up your favorite bit torrent client (I recommend uTorrent) and find Ubuntu 9.10. Burn it to a CD, pop it in, and run the Live CD. Once that's done, marvel at how easy it is to use out of the box.
Furthermore, when you think having a good support community is the sign of a bad OS, you're doing it wrong. A *lack* of a good support community is the sign of a bad OS, because every OS has issues, and if there's no support it means that no one is using it.
I've always been told is somewhat of a necessity to get the most from a Linux machine.
Having a good knowledge of mechanics is a necessity to get the most out of your car, but that never stops anyone from driving one. Any questions you run into, I assure you that a simple google search will find the solution. :)
what can I NOT do on a Linux platform that I can do on a Windows platform?
There is very little (I can't think of anything right now) that you can't do on a Linux machine that you can on windows. Unless you're hung up on a specific *brand* of software. For example, iTunes does not run on Linux (this is one of the reasons I ditched the iphone for the Droid) but there are several similar applications for Linux. Games can be a bit dodgy, and you'll need to install WINE to run them if they were built for Windows.
How scared do I need to be, and where can I go to learn anything I need to learn.
Don't be afraid, my Bulbous-headed friend! You can always make a Live CD (or, Live USB if your BIOS allows it) and test it out without messing with your current setup. Also, as many Linux users do, you can dual boot Linux and Windows. This is usually a good idea for beginners, though read up on how to use GParted (it will be on the Live CD) before you go mucking around with your partitions.
As for where to go to learn: I just installed it and jumped in, and I'm so glad I did. I hear that Linux Mint is a good flavor (ha!) to start out with transitioning from Windows, but Ubuntu seems just as easy to me.
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I can't pass up the chance to bring someone else to the Dark Side.
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My guess would be because of section 2, which references section 1, of your post.
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Question.
Either way it's silly, but trademark would make it slightly less silly. Also, if I've made some logic error that renders my entire question null, straighten me out. (It happens a lot on Fridays)
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In what world is learning the ins and outs of the legal system comparable to "learning" how to accept money for a product? (in this case, looooooots of shirts)
I was thinking about this topic yesterday, and I am not going to feel bad for any new artists who sign one-sided contracts with record labels. It sounds harsh, but they have options now, and if they choose to sign a shitty contract, they deserve to be bound to it. If they can't make it in this newly structured landscape of digital media and the internet, then so be it. Not everyone *deserves* to be a professional musician just because they can know how to play an instrument.
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Also, I am not against *all* laws, I am against laws that are poorly thought out, poorly implemented, unnecessary, or twisted/misused.
There is no law, to my (limited) knowledge that allows a party to have complete control over all uses of a single word.
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Well, there once was a man from Nantucket...
:)
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I would think that most of the people who frequent this site (except for the trolls) are decidedly Anti-Sony, vaguely anti-Microsoft, and definitely against the "He with the most lawyers, wins" way of the world.
So, since you're clearly new around here, welcome to TechDirt. :)
More on point, and has been stated several times before (just in this post, even) Trademark laws are designed *solely* to protect customers. I should not have to worry about buying a bottle of Joe's Soda with a Coca Cola label on it. Further, even if, for whatever reason, the Dick's *had* trademarked the term "Nexus", they would have to be using it in the same market (i.e., phones) for it to apply to this device.
Lastly, I would like an explanation on what possible *harm* or *disservice* this does to the Dick Family that they would like it to stop.
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Re: May not be a money grab
I'm sorry, but *what*? A quick read of the above story will clear things up:
See? There is *zero* legal basis for this. Not to mention, Nexus is a real word. Hence, it's a money grab-- she is hoping that Google will toss some money at her to make her go away. I pray they do not.
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The very first thing that is required is that the work (in this case a watch) is purchased.
Which, it was.
TFA:
Note the key word "sold" there. Further reading will result in the word "resold". I know, crazy, right?
Thus, while they boxes they are in have never been opened, the product has in fact been sold at retail
This has no bearing on anything. At all.
Now, if CostCo sells these "used" goods without indicating that they are used, there would be an issue there as well, not for copyright, but rather as a false representation.
I am beginning to think you don't know the definition of "used", or that it is different than "sold". You do realize that almost everything you buy has been sold at least once, unless you're buying straight from the manufacturer, right? Please tell me you do.
Many companies do not honor guarantees for products sold outside of their home market, or will only honor them if you "carry in" the product to the service center in it's home market, as is their right.
Proof, please. I have returned things that were still under the manufacturer's warranty, and not once did they ask where I bought it, or for how much.
There are some interesting implications here...
In that yet *another* company is trying to misuse IP laws to fit their own agenda, yes. Very interesting.
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You still have managed, despite all the words you put on every post, to bring nothing to the table.
Gah.
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IP Laws are so silly sometimes. :)
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Power up your favorite bit torrent client (I recommend uTorrent) and find Ubuntu 9.10. Burn it to a CD, pop it in, and run the Live CD. Once that's done, marvel at how easy it is to use out of the box.
Furthermore, when you think having a good support community is the sign of a bad OS, you're doing it wrong. A *lack* of a good support community is the sign of a bad OS, because every OS has issues, and if there's no support it means that no one is using it.
Lemme know how Linux works out for ya.
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Having a good knowledge of mechanics is a necessity to get the most out of your car, but that never stops anyone from driving one. Any questions you run into, I assure you that a simple google search will find the solution. :)
what can I NOT do on a Linux platform that I can do on a Windows platform?
There is very little (I can't think of anything right now) that you can't do on a Linux machine that you can on windows. Unless you're hung up on a specific *brand* of software. For example, iTunes does not run on Linux (this is one of the reasons I ditched the iphone for the Droid) but there are several similar applications for Linux. Games can be a bit dodgy, and you'll need to install WINE to run them if they were built for Windows.
How scared do I need to be, and where can I go to learn anything I need to learn.
Don't be afraid, my Bulbous-headed friend! You can always make a Live CD (or, Live USB if your BIOS allows it) and test it out without messing with your current setup. Also, as many Linux users do, you can dual boot Linux and Windows. This is usually a good idea for beginners, though read up on how to use GParted (it will be on the Live CD) before you go mucking around with your partitions.
As for where to go to learn: I just installed it and jumped in, and I'm so glad I did. I hear that Linux Mint is a good flavor (ha!) to start out with transitioning from Windows, but Ubuntu seems just as easy to me.
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I can't pass up the chance to bring someone else to the Dark Side.
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