In the Good Old Days ("the Constitution as it was"), the proper remedy for an offensive article was to attack the writer with a stick, challenge him to a duel, or get together a group of your friends to smash his printing press. Since it was considered ill form to beat a woman or challenge her to a duel, the challenge would be better directed at her husband, father, or brother. for failing to control her.
More recently, in the pre-NYTimes-v-Sullivan age, the remedy was to sue the offender before a jury packed with your sympathizers. Alas, that no longer works either.
Constitutional "textualism" (strict construction) seems to be at war with "originalism" (how the Founders understood press freedom in their time). Should we settle the matter with a duel?
The first time I read this post, I assumed, as the poster intended, that he was a hypersensitive anti-racism crusader. The second time I read it, however, I realize it is intended as an advertisement for Stormfront and other racist websites. A fairly clever troll, but one that cannot do the troller much good, because the websites are too extreme to be accepted by casual visitors.
To the man with a hammer, everything is a nail. To the man inspired by "anti-fascism," everything is fascist. Since real fascists are hard to find on the Pacific Coast, Left-wing militants have been bullying conservatives and libertarians who are not fascists.
Interesting articles; thank you. Since the advent of Trump, there has been a surge in casual right-wing aggression against the press, comparable to what Antifa is accused of in the Andy Ngo incident. Some of the police actions, however, are understandable during disorders (riots), when it is not always clear who is a problem and who is not..
How many reporters have been beaten and arrested by the police for doing their jobs?
How about listing some that you consider most important, best illustrating calculated anti-journalist violence like that perpetrated by Antifa against Andy Ngo?
The masked Ku Klux Klan of the 1960s was certainly a (collection of) terrorist organization(s), but they have mostly died off or retired. They are not carrying out terrorist campaigns today, and know that aggressive actions while hooded (masked) will attract hostile LE attention.
Hugo Chavez thought highway blockages were a cool way to overthrow the government of Bolivia in 2003. When hometown protesters started showing an interest in the idea, however, Chavez quickly banned highway blockages in Venezuela.
Do you think it's so great a risk that it's worth completely outlawing protesting
Ridiculous strawman. There is a well-established law of "parade permits," allowing protesters to protest and police to plan traffic around them.
Police and the public don't make a big issue of occasional unplanned blockages of local streets. Interstate highways are a much more serious matter, however.
Blocking highways can subject thousands, even tens of thousands, to false arrest (in their stalled cars) for hours, and even cost the lives of people seeking emergency medical attention.
Precisely. To remain valid, non-disclosure agreements should apply to both sides. Similarly with pre-trial gag orders: if the prosecution starts leaking prejudicial information to sympathetic reporters in the local (or national) media, the defense should be free to defend themselves publicly.
I do not believe there is much ideological difference between progressive DAs and old-guard DAs on prosecuting gun crimes. More likely this is patronage by the new AG, finding work for the prosecutors fired by the Philadelphia DA.
Hugo S Cunningham (profile), 15 Jul 2019 @ 10:13am
Shoplifters not prosecuted? Better just to keep them out
Seattle is one of those progressive jurisdictions that do not prosecute shoplifting. Since collecting evidence against repeat-shoplifters is a waste of time, it makes more sense just to keep them out of the store. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw
Congress? Or just the House? The Senate has been a graveyard for good ideas from the House, whether it is today's Democratic House trying to curb the corruption of Ajit Pai, or the Republican House of Darryl Issa trying to curb patent trolls in 2014.
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Let's look at some other countries that have strict gun bans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Jamaica
(a murder rate several times the USA's)
Apparently that is not an automatic fix, either.
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Remedies, then and now...
In the Good Old Days ("the Constitution as it was"), the proper remedy for an offensive article was to attack the writer with a stick, challenge him to a duel, or get together a group of your friends to smash his printing press. Since it was considered ill form to beat a woman or challenge her to a duel, the challenge would be better directed at her husband, father, or brother. for failing to control her.
More recently, in the pre-NYTimes-v-Sullivan age, the remedy was to sue the offender before a jury packed with your sympathizers. Alas, that no longer works either.
Constitutional "textualism" (strict construction) seems to be at war with "originalism" (how the Founders understood press freedom in their time). Should we settle the matter with a duel?
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Ken White's Parma PD parody
For those who missed it the first time around:
https://www.popehat.com/2016/04/05/official-city-of-parma-police-department-press-release/
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Re: Re: Re: Bit disingenuous
How long would it be until tire sellers bribe authorities to shorten the interval before the spikes come up?
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Re: Re: Re: RACIST!
"You said 'Jehovah'!"
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Re: RACIST!
The first time I read this post, I assumed, as the poster intended, that he was a hypersensitive anti-racism crusader. The second time I read it, however, I realize it is intended as an advertisement for Stormfront and other racist websites. A fairly clever troll, but one that cannot do the troller much good, because the websites are too extreme to be accepted by casual visitors.
On the post: LAPD Infiltrated An Anti-Fascist Protest Group Because The First Amendment Is Apparently Just A Suggestion
To the man with a hammer...
To the man with a hammer, everything is a nail. To the man inspired by "anti-fascism," everything is fascist. Since real fascists are hard to find on the Pacific Coast, Left-wing militants have been bullying conservatives and libertarians who are not fascists.
On the post: LAPD Infiltrated An Anti-Fascist Protest Group Because The First Amendment Is Apparently Just A Suggestion
Re: Re: Re: Bad Press
Interesting articles; thank you. Since the advent of Trump, there has been a surge in casual right-wing aggression against the press, comparable to what Antifa is accused of in the Andy Ngo incident. Some of the police actions, however, are understandable during disorders (riots), when it is not always clear who is a problem and who is not..
On the post: LAPD Infiltrated An Anti-Fascist Protest Group Because The First Amendment Is Apparently Just A Suggestion
Re: Re: I’m not saying he was dressed like he was asking for i
They attacked him because he was reporting on their activities.
On the post: LAPD Infiltrated An Anti-Fascist Protest Group Because The First Amendment Is Apparently Just A Suggestion
Re: Bad Press
How about listing some that you consider most important, best illustrating calculated anti-journalist violence like that perpetrated by Antifa against Andy Ngo?
On the post: LAPD Infiltrated An Anti-Fascist Protest Group Because The First Amendment Is Apparently Just A Suggestion
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The masked Ku Klux Klan of the 1960s was certainly a (collection of) terrorist organization(s), but they have mostly died off or retired. They are not carrying out terrorist campaigns today, and know that aggressive actions while hooded (masked) will attract hostile LE attention.
On the post: LAPD Infiltrated An Anti-Fascist Protest Group Because The First Amendment Is Apparently Just A Suggestion
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Hugo Chavez thought highway blockages were a cool way to overthrow the government of Bolivia in 2003. When hometown protesters started showing an interest in the idea, however, Chavez quickly banned highway blockages in Venezuela.
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Ridiculous strawman. There is a well-established law of "parade permits," allowing protesters to protest and police to plan traffic around them.
Police and the public don't make a big issue of occasional unplanned blockages of local streets. Interstate highways are a much more serious matter, however.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/01/15/protesters-block-traffic-southeast-express-nor thbound/G3aLvpDWRixI2I6SVyaErM/story.html
On the post: LAPD Infiltrated An Anti-Fascist Protest Group Because The First Amendment Is Apparently Just A Suggestion
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Blocking highways can subject thousands, even tens of thousands, to false arrest (in their stalled cars) for hours, and even cost the lives of people seeking emergency medical attention.
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Re: Should have just kept your mouth shut...
Precisely. To remain valid, non-disclosure agreements should apply to both sides. Similarly with pre-trial gag orders: if the prosecution starts leaking prejudicial information to sympathetic reporters in the local (or national) media, the defense should be free to defend themselves publicly.
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Jobs for the boys?
I do not believe there is much ideological difference between progressive DAs and old-guard DAs on prosecuting gun crimes. More likely this is patronage by the new AG, finding work for the prosecutors fired by the Philadelphia DA.
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Shoplifters not prosecuted? Better just to keep them out
Seattle is one of those progressive jurisdictions that do not prosecute shoplifting. Since collecting evidence against repeat-shoplifters is a waste of time, it makes more sense just to keep them out of the store.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw
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"Hit the road, Jack,
and don't come back
No more! No more! No more! No More!
Hit the road, Jack,
and don't come back
no mo-o-o-ore...
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Congress? Or just the House? The Senate has been a graveyard for good ideas from the House, whether it is today's Democratic House trying to curb the corruption of Ajit Pai, or the Republican House of Darryl Issa trying to curb patent trolls in 2014.
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Provo Uprising?
Most likely it's like a Hittite joke-- nobody can accuse him of aggravating real tensions somewhere.
Or maybe the USA was accused by our British allies of not doing enough to conceal a resurgence of troubles in Northern Ireland.
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