Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Jan 2019 @ 5:16pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
"...there are those who will find and register unregistered works so that they can profit from them..."
No system is perfect. The thing here is being able to produce 'prior art'. If one contests something that they believe is copyrighted under false pretenses, all one needs to do is show some prior art. It might be some sheet music produced in the 1800's or it might be a digital recording with a time stamp prior to the 'requested copyright'.
There will be battles, no question, but those battles (rightly or wrongly) will depend upon the perceived current and/or future value of the copyrighted piece, as those battles won't be cheap. Of course copyright should be much shorter, like maybe the original, what was it, 14 years with a possible extension to 28 years (which should require some significant payment or else the extension isn't actually worth it)?
To some degree, copyright is about economics. The rest is about crediting creators for whatever intrinsic value that has, which is not inconsiderable, though not necessarily fungible for money.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Jan 2019 @ 5:02pm
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To some degree this could be dealt with by having your work uploaded to the copyright database at the same time as it is uploaded to XYZ venue. The issues of plagiarism would need to be dealt with later, and the issue of fair use would need to be better defined so that the typical person on the street could make such a determination, even though many of those would still be challenged in courts.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 21 Jan 2019 @ 3:32pm
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The thing about automatic copyright registration that is bad is that there is no record of the registration. If we went back to registration, and asked a minimal fee ($5.00 comes to mind, but then why wouldn't $1.00 work?) we would then be able to create an actual database of copyrighted materials. With a database of copyrighted materials we could curtail many of the inappropriate DMCA notices, and (not holding my breath here) be able to actually sanction those.
There will still be the, now usual, complaints of plagiarism, or as is more commonly known remixing, short snippets of notes, words, video clips, few of which might actually be called original, as much passed prior to the advent of copyright, or current laws (See Disney and the Brothers Grimm for example).
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 18 Jan 2019 @ 7:02pm
Other options for choosing ones own adventures
Does choose your own adventure apply to the court proceedings as well? Make motion A and go one course, make motion B and choose another? Will Chooseco then sue the attorneys for violating their Trademark?
On the other hand, this certainly seems to be making claims on an idea rather than trademark. Where are the logos? What was the actual trademark violation?
"Early on, the main character informs his father that “Bandersnatch is a ‘Choose Your Own Adventure’ book” and holds up a copy by fictional author Jerome F. Davies."
Seems more like advertising the Choose Your Own Adventure book rather than any competition.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 18 Jan 2019 @ 4:49pm
To Think
That Facebook will be only 15 years old next month, yet they did things 'years ago' that might shock ones consciousness. Come on, they are still teenagers themselves.
Yet they are a corporation, and a big one at that. One would tend to believe that they could hire some competence, and then display it.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 17 Jan 2019 @ 2:07pm
Re: Re: Re: Re: Amendments
"The question isn't if the publication is illegal, but if withholding the source is."
By making that the question one creates a slippery slope. What is the dividing line? Wherever the investigator/prosecutor wants in a particular case? It has been, for most of US history, that the media can protect their sources, and only in very unusual circumstances does that veil get removed.
When every leak is considered to be 'national security' even when it might be only 'administration or bureau embarrassment', then the line has been crossed. When the purpose of whistleblower protections has been abrogated into negotiated whistleblower punishment, then the whistleblowers will feel that they have no choice but to try and leak anonymously, and sometimes rely on journalists to aid in that process. The journalist needs to know, so they don't spew unsubstantiated nonsense. Then what is the virtue of revealing the source when the issue is embarrassment rather than something actually bad.
And this is without thinking through the notion that any leaker that wanted to do harm would be turning the information over to some other government secretly, rather than getting it published for the whole world to see.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 10 Jan 2019 @ 5:58pm
Re: Re: Nebulous systems
One question. Where is this Google based 'platform' that Google controls? Google+? Gmail? Their search engine? The blogs they support? Something else?
Near as I can tell the position Google is taking is to satisfy some international issues, ie., EU issues, even if those issues don't apply in the US. Other than the EU, why would they care? Their advertisers are complaining? Well there are lots more advertisers out there. In the US Section 230 gives them cover, so that isn't it. In fact in the US section 230 tells them they don't need to audit the comments sections of websites, so why would they?
I think that Google is trying to apply EU directed platitudes across the board, Whether they should or not is a different question.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 10 Jan 2019 @ 7:47am
Re: Re: Trickle down
Followed by a shitstorm washed down with more urine, where the liquid waste are the tax cuts and the solid wastes are the layoffs and lack of network improvement.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 9 Jan 2019 @ 6:02pm
Underdeveloped
The answer is so clear. They need artificial intelligence (or machine learning) to reconfigure their algorithms. Every time the algorithm screws up, some human goes in and tells the AI that it screwed up. Then, over time the machine will learn what the humans actually think is wrong which will improve its correct score. That is until the human is replace with someone secular, who is then replaced by someone fundamentalist, who is then replaced by someone with severe sexual phobias, and then a Neanderthal, and then a rhesus monkey.
Look, it will work for music and videos and political commentary as well, whatever you want. Just give it enough data and it will sort out all we need to have sorted out. Just ask it.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 9 Jan 2019 @ 4:46pm
Re: Easier?
Without going down the nutty conspiracy rabbit hole (or maybe I am) there is enough evidence floating around to say that our government wants to operate as they want to operate, without any oversight from the electorate.
The evolution of the political parties (reversing sides and controlling who gets on the ballot and gerrymandering voting districts in their favor, when they have the majority in any given state, then gerrymandering them back when things reverse, etc.) and indoctrinating their constituents to continue unfettered support, even with the policy reversals says a lot.
The various three letter agencies performing searches in violation of the clear meaning of the 4th Amendment. Agencies (as in this case) refusing to follow the letter of the law with regard to FOIA requests, and (as in this case) at least trying to create additional roadblocks to FOIA requests. Agencies failing to follow through on directives from their own Inspector Generals for failures of many stripes. Then there are other things like creating sting operations that have no foundation in any truth. Arresting US citizens and trying to deport them to some other country. Trying to use US law to take down a company that wasn't based in the US. Etc..
And this isn't just federal. Look at how the police are acting. Using military equipment when it isn't necessary, asset forfeitures when no crime is involved, shooting first then considering circumstances, etc.. In that light, look at the current federal response to police misconduct where the DoJ announced they would no longer look into such episodes.
I think it is a bipartisan issue as these behaviors have developed, unchecked, even with changes in administrations and different configurations in congress. It is all about power. What the endgame is might cover a significant area of the spectrum, but through power is how they intend to implement it. It is difficult to tell just what the game is, as the players (politicians and bureaucrats) change over time, and this has been in development now for decades.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 9 Jan 2019 @ 8:27am
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But they are not going to build 5G networks as 5G doesn't exist yet, and may never, just like 4G. Those billions are for Executive bonuses and investor dividends.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 9 Jan 2019 @ 7:58am
Were just doing our jobs
Perfect practice when promulgating parallel construction, evidence washing, covering up, and other obfuscations, makes perfect the agenda promotion which is whatever the current administration wants (and never spoken out loud), so long as it enhances bureaucratic power for now and into the future.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 9 Jan 2019 @ 7:19am
Re: US cops as well
"There are plenty of examples of cops here in the US..."
I got that far into your comment and my minds eye started to create a series of cardboard cutouts of US police officers who were more ethical than actual US police officers (by merely not acting) who were then pissed that their image was being topped by cardboard cutouts.
Then I finished your comment and you are right, which doesn't mean my thought was wrong.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 8 Jan 2019 @ 7:51am
Re: Re: If Musk...
What are the needs for low latency outside of gaming or VOIP? Would satellite connectivity be a big issue for VOIP? I think a bigger issue for current broadband providers is that if enough users jump to satellite connections it would impact them enough to, maybe, change their behavior. Real competition could have the impact we want, in the long run. Of course if current broadband providers change their behavior, it would hurt the satellite connections.
I doubt we get to the point where terrestrial broadband has the gamer's and VOIP users and the satellite gets everyone else, but having that competition could be really good.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 7 Jan 2019 @ 6:42pm
Seems bad all around, and doesn't accomplish the goal either.
Great, so now someone only needs a good picture of someones face to get in. And what about the children, as they grow up their faces change, and one day they won't be able to go home?
Then there's the idea of curfews, if I get home late I have to spend the night on the street? Or I invite some acquaintance over, not knowing their 'social score' and find they can't get in? Or worse, meet them at the door an let a 'socially unacceptable' person in, not knowing (or maybe knowing) they are 'socially unacceptable' (probably meaning anti-government control, but could be actually bad)?
So this is just another step in the government taking control over the population, at least until the population decides it doesn't want that control anymore. There are an awful lot of them.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
No system is perfect. The thing here is being able to produce 'prior art'. If one contests something that they believe is copyrighted under false pretenses, all one needs to do is show some prior art. It might be some sheet music produced in the 1800's or it might be a digital recording with a time stamp prior to the 'requested copyright'.
There will be battles, no question, but those battles (rightly or wrongly) will depend upon the perceived current and/or future value of the copyrighted piece, as those battles won't be cheap. Of course copyright should be much shorter, like maybe the original, what was it, 14 years with a possible extension to 28 years (which should require some significant payment or else the extension isn't actually worth it)?
To some degree, copyright is about economics. The rest is about crediting creators for whatever intrinsic value that has, which is not inconsiderable, though not necessarily fungible for money.
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
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On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
Re: Re: Re: Re:
There will still be the, now usual, complaints of plagiarism, or as is more commonly known remixing, short snippets of notes, words, video clips, few of which might actually be called original, as much passed prior to the advent of copyright, or current laws (See Disney and the Brothers Grimm for example).
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
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On the post: The 'Choose Your Own Adventure' People Are Suing Netflix Over 'Bandersnatch'
Other options for choosing ones own adventures
Does choose your own adventure apply to the court proceedings as well? Make motion A and go one course, make motion B and choose another? Will Chooseco then sue the attorneys for violating their Trademark?
On the other hand, this certainly seems to be making claims on an idea rather than trademark. Where are the logos? What was the actual trademark violation?
Seems more like advertising the Choose Your Own Adventure book rather than any competition.
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To Think
Yet they are a corporation, and a big one at that. One would tend to believe that they could hire some competence, and then display it.
On the post: Attorney General Nominee Seems Willing To Let The DOJ Jail Journalists Over Published Leaks
Re: Re: Re: Re: Amendments
By making that the question one creates a slippery slope. What is the dividing line? Wherever the investigator/prosecutor wants in a particular case? It has been, for most of US history, that the media can protect their sources, and only in very unusual circumstances does that veil get removed.
When every leak is considered to be 'national security' even when it might be only 'administration or bureau embarrassment', then the line has been crossed. When the purpose of whistleblower protections has been abrogated into negotiated whistleblower punishment, then the whistleblowers will feel that they have no choice but to try and leak anonymously, and sometimes rely on journalists to aid in that process. The journalist needs to know, so they don't spew unsubstantiated nonsense. Then what is the virtue of revealing the source when the issue is embarrassment rather than something actually bad.
And this is without thinking through the notion that any leaker that wanted to do harm would be turning the information over to some other government secretly, rather than getting it published for the whole world to see.
On the post: Infamous Pinkerton Detectives Claim Red Dead Redemption's Use Of Historically Accurate Pinkertons Is Trademark Infringement
Re: Re:
Then there is the problem of...
plus Hollywood accounting where they have no profit...ever.
VS
plus unlikely Hollywood accounting where there might actually be some profit.
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Re: Re: Re: The emperor's new gaslit clothes
On the post: Google Still Says Our Post On Content Moderation Is Dangerous Or Derogatory
Re: Re: Nebulous systems
Near as I can tell the position Google is taking is to satisfy some international issues, ie., EU issues, even if those issues don't apply in the US. Other than the EU, why would they care? Their advertisers are complaining? Well there are lots more advertisers out there. In the US Section 230 gives them cover, so that isn't it. In fact in the US section 230 tells them they don't need to audit the comments sections of websites, so why would they?
I think that Google is trying to apply EU directed platitudes across the board, Whether they should or not is a different question.
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On the post: AT&T's Planning Yet More Layoffs Despite Tens Of Billions In Tax Breaks And Government Favors
Re: Re: Trickle down
On the post: Facebook Rejects GRIS Launch Trailer For Being Sexually Suggestive When It Clearly Is Not
Underdeveloped
Look, it will work for music and videos and political commentary as well, whatever you want. Just give it enough data and it will sort out all we need to have sorted out. Just ask it.
/s
On the post: Dept. Of Interior Wants To Rewrite FOIA Law To Make It Easier To Reject Requests
Re: Easier?
The evolution of the political parties (reversing sides and controlling who gets on the ballot and gerrymandering voting districts in their favor, when they have the majority in any given state, then gerrymandering them back when things reverse, etc.) and indoctrinating their constituents to continue unfettered support, even with the policy reversals says a lot.
The various three letter agencies performing searches in violation of the clear meaning of the 4th Amendment. Agencies (as in this case) refusing to follow the letter of the law with regard to FOIA requests, and (as in this case) at least trying to create additional roadblocks to FOIA requests. Agencies failing to follow through on directives from their own Inspector Generals for failures of many stripes. Then there are other things like creating sting operations that have no foundation in any truth. Arresting US citizens and trying to deport them to some other country. Trying to use US law to take down a company that wasn't based in the US. Etc..
And this isn't just federal. Look at how the police are acting. Using military equipment when it isn't necessary, asset forfeitures when no crime is involved, shooting first then considering circumstances, etc.. In that light, look at the current federal response to police misconduct where the DoJ announced they would no longer look into such episodes.
I think it is a bipartisan issue as these behaviors have developed, unchecked, even with changes in administrations and different configurations in congress. It is all about power. What the endgame is might cover a significant area of the spectrum, but through power is how they intend to implement it. It is difficult to tell just what the game is, as the players (politicians and bureaucrats) change over time, and this has been in development now for decades.
On the post: Notoriously Corrupt Sri Lanka Police Force Arrests Citizens For Pretending To Bribe A Cardboard Cutout Cop
Re: Re:
On the post: Cable Industry Hypes Phony '10G' When 5G Isn't Even Available Yet
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On the post: DOJ Says It Knows It Fudged Numbers On Its Dangerous Immigrants Report, But Refuses To Correct Them Or Release Underlying Data
Were just doing our jobs
On the post: Notoriously Corrupt Sri Lanka Police Force Arrests Citizens For Pretending To Bribe A Cardboard Cutout Cop
Re: US cops as well
I got that far into your comment and my minds eye started to create a series of cardboard cutouts of US police officers who were more ethical than actual US police officers (by merely not acting) who were then pissed that their image was being topped by cardboard cutouts.
Then I finished your comment and you are right, which doesn't mean my thought was wrong.
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Re: Re: If Musk...
I doubt we get to the point where terrestrial broadband has the gamer's and VOIP users and the satellite gets everyone else, but having that competition could be really good.
On the post: China Starts Using Facial Recognition-Enabled 'Smart' Locks In Its Public Housing
Seems bad all around, and doesn't accomplish the goal either.
Then there's the idea of curfews, if I get home late I have to spend the night on the street? Or I invite some acquaintance over, not knowing their 'social score' and find they can't get in? Or worse, meet them at the door an let a 'socially unacceptable' person in, not knowing (or maybe knowing) they are 'socially unacceptable' (probably meaning anti-government control, but could be actually bad)?
So this is just another step in the government taking control over the population, at least until the population decides it doesn't want that control anymore. There are an awful lot of them.
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