of course not. because as soon as you try that it's suddenly a product again.
amusingly, not that it's ever been tested in court here, if it is not legal to return the software you bought (and that's the case here) for anything other than another copy of the exact same thing, even if you agree to the EULA, it Should (i'm not a lawyer, never have been, and have never had the time/budget/connections to get this checked out) rate as being signed under duress, if valid at all.
(of course, you also can't return DVDs for anything but a replacement copy here either... but some places will happily refund you anyway.)
the modern 'science' of economics is a load of rubbish anyway. it's more of an ideology, usually. most of it's so called laws are complete nonsense based on the desire to make economies work like gravity or electricity, rather than like earthquakes or weather (to which their nature is much closer)
(also, 'home economics' is silly, given that the 'eco' in economics means 'home' anyway.)
sorry, i've just been reading up on this and the more i find out about it the more rage inducing the stupid assumptions that have come out of it become :-S
then again, economics probably does have Actual laws, people just haven't figured them out properly yet... blah.
on a different note, while the music industry may be wrong about whether they're providing a product or a service, at least that's better than the software industry, who keep trying to claim to be doing both with the same item, and switching which based on what screwes over the customer/advantages them more...
given the way it's selling and being developed, i'd lay odds that it'll stay that way until such time as Notch gets bored with it and moves onto the next project instead.
perpetual development... small budget projects can do this.
editors != proof readers. they're different jobs, unless the publisher is too small to be able to afford to hire separate people for each role.
spell checkers etc. reduce the amount of work a proof reader needs to do (but don't eliminate it), but have no effect on an editor.
actually, the book i own with the most typos/printing issues/missing punctuation, that i remember, is published by Vintage, which is a Random House imprint. (next most is the first book published by Yonagu books, which is a small, niche outfit using Amazon's print on demand facilities. the second book has much fewer issues.) I've seen fanfiction with less errors than that Vintage book, which also had no need of an editor at all. (most fanfic definitely needs someone to read it over though... keep your tenses straight, people!)
still, i too will put up with typos, to a point, if they do not detract from my ability to understand the text, provided the text itself is good enough.
and if they do resort to lawyers probably won't have the funds to conduct the ridiculous 'sink them with legal fees no matter the outcome' tactic available as their pockets aren't deep enough, even if they're personally making more money than they otherwise would. (doesn't change the outcome of actually Winning, mind you.)
'sides, fanfiction mostly seems to have an associated attitude of 'getting paid for this is wrong, it's practice and skill building and an entertaining hobby in it's own right. if you want to make money, write your own original stuff'. how much of that is in response to copyright law and the risk of lawsuits, i don't know, but the moral event horizon on the issue where you go from 'the community supports the fanfiction author' to 'the community would gleefully beat them with sticks on the way to court' is when said fanfic author starts taking money. (well, i've not seen that happen, but that seems to be the sort of position taken when the issue comes up)
there's also the fact that teens often don't actually have the budget to buy many books at the prices offered in bookshops and the like, and are thus usually the most likely to resort to piracy...
so if she's actually managed to get to the point where said teens can and do Buy the e-books, that's a large market that would have been missed out on entirely (or at least large portions of it) otherwise...
very slow for me sometimes too. mostly the voting buttons taking Ages to show up after the comments are loaded (and the page jumps back up to where i was looking to start with once they finish loading, no matter where i'm looking at that point) and the 'thanks for voting' or whatever message not actually appearing before it disappears again.
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and then there was the...hair dresser, i think? again, radio on while she worked, oh, broadcast, sue. can't remember where that one was, exactly.
those are the classic examples, anyway. (i'm sure someone can give actual links and/or better details on those ones.)
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amusingly, not that it's ever been tested in court here, if it is not legal to return the software you bought (and that's the case here) for anything other than another copy of the exact same thing, even if you agree to the EULA, it Should (i'm not a lawyer, never have been, and have never had the time/budget/connections to get this checked out) rate as being signed under duress, if valid at all.
(of course, you also can't return DVDs for anything but a replacement copy here either... but some places will happily refund you anyway.)
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(also, 'home economics' is silly, given that the 'eco' in economics means 'home' anyway.)
sorry, i've just been reading up on this and the more i find out about it the more rage inducing the stupid assumptions that have come out of it become :-S
then again, economics probably does have Actual laws, people just haven't figured them out properly yet... blah.
on a different note, while the music industry may be wrong about whether they're providing a product or a service, at least that's better than the software industry, who keep trying to claim to be doing both with the same item, and switching which based on what screwes over the customer/advantages them more...
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DRM causes a lot more of those than piracy, really.
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perpetual development... small budget projects can do this.
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spell checkers etc. reduce the amount of work a proof reader needs to do (but don't eliminate it), but have no effect on an editor.
actually, the book i own with the most typos/printing issues/missing punctuation, that i remember, is published by Vintage, which is a Random House imprint. (next most is the first book published by Yonagu books, which is a small, niche outfit using Amazon's print on demand facilities. the second book has much fewer issues.) I've seen fanfiction with less errors than that Vintage book, which also had no need of an editor at all. (most fanfic definitely needs someone to read it over though... keep your tenses straight, people!)
still, i too will put up with typos, to a point, if they do not detract from my ability to understand the text, provided the text itself is good enough.
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'sides, fanfiction mostly seems to have an associated attitude of 'getting paid for this is wrong, it's practice and skill building and an entertaining hobby in it's own right. if you want to make money, write your own original stuff'. how much of that is in response to copyright law and the risk of lawsuits, i don't know, but the moral event horizon on the issue where you go from 'the community supports the fanfiction author' to 'the community would gleefully beat them with sticks on the way to court' is when said fanfic author starts taking money. (well, i've not seen that happen, but that seems to be the sort of position taken when the issue comes up)
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so if she's actually managed to get to the point where said teens can and do Buy the e-books, that's a large market that would have been missed out on entirely (or at least large portions of it) otherwise...
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also Switzerland and Sweden. (well, people get which 'people from place X' adjective/noun applies to which country, anyway)
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seriously, this would be funny if the system didn't think it was true :S
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