After the Gov. paid off the telecoms, to run lines into the RURAL areas.. Did the corps make any moreny from it, or is it that the made LESS from those rural areas, then they wanted?
But even after the fact, the gov. kept paying off the Telecoms every year, to keep it up.
Or did they think it was a Write off on taxes?
Over time I would think that the Major metro Corps, would be the Big money, and Big demand, but they needed access to all the Citizens to use some of that power.
Their only job now is charging people to make Phone calls, and taking any money from anyone that wishes to use the lines. But the lines have to be up and to as many as possible. But they stopped seeing the point, that everyone needed access, so that Sellers can make money, and they could charge for that access.
So, you play the game. get the Gov. to TRY to push the corp buttons. 1/4 trillion is about 6-8 CEO wages worth?? But the prices didnt even go down after that.
Would love to see the contracts being made between the Movie, channels, HBO, and soforth to really see how much is being passed back and forth. But thats PRIVATE CORP BUSINESS.
Then comes the other parts. The TV/CABLE industry and the internet. All rolled up into 1 big BANK.
The Cable part is interesting, because of the wireless built into it for distribution, and I WOULD think that the Corps would Love to do this to everyone, and not use the Backbone. Wireless to Each reagion/area and then Cable to the locals. But its not happening, the way it should.
How many Sats would you need? To have interactive, up/down/back and forth Data to cover 1 metro area? Millions of people using the system to talk/internet/cable/sat.
Ask the Digital Sat services how hard it is already, Just to have FULL band TV access. Then ask the Cable distribution how much fun it is to Scramble and send it to everyone.
The Whole system gets complicated, and Lag, and weather, and this and that.
Would it be nice if you could have it all in 1. Phone, wireless, Cell, Cable TV, All at 1 low price on 1-2 fiber cable to your home for $100 per month?
But, But Fiber is probably better underground, NOT on poles(Weather sucks, and Temps change how things work). But do they see how this could work.
Every home could/would be a great Small location for cellphone service, and you wouldnt NEED HUGE Antenna's, and the coverage would be RIGHT down the freeway's. A nice box on everyones home giving all the services anyone wanted.
But the caveat. Tends to be that the Major Backbone does not Cover everywhere. Its not under the Freeway, Everywhere.
If it was, then it would be nothing to install remote locations in every small town. There are Tons of back roads to areas not covered, not near the freeways. Go to sun valley, and there is not much there, anyone take a Fiber up the mountain area would be Kissed, and get paid TONS for a Roaming signal. How would $1 per connection feel, and you would cover 3 towns along the way.(at least) All owned by rich people.
News on the TV.
News on the net.
News in social groups.
TV and the news Published on the Net tend to be about equal. There are a few agencies on the net that Consider themselves NEWS, but are more opinion then anything else, or they just repeat what others say already.
Scoial groups tend to Gather those of the like. And reinforce thenselves, over and over. With a few Joining to contest and debate.
And as an OPEN system would be there to keep debating. But a closed system gets them Kicked, as not following the Lines of conversation and finding foundation in assumptions.
Watching TV or the News channels that are the Major sevices, including those from other countries, CAN give you an outside view, if you mix them up and watch more then 1-2. But thats not letting Many of us Comment/debate/ask questions, or find answers to our thoughts.
If you are willing to sit in a can, and let others Fill it with BS, you are liable to babble BS. If you have questions, you can never get answers. If you never see alternatives to what Stopped your car from working you only have the opinion of the Mechanic, who fixed it last time for the same problem.
Abot to wonder IF' the video was publicly used, then why isnt it Public, and not Private.
Can you see Every corp stomp around YT, contesting the Old commercials?
How about Warner brothers, getting upset, about all the OLD cartoons on YT?
If there were a site that all Public notices were posted by the gov?
Not having to goto this and this, and that , and the other site??
How much access does a nation have, if no one knows about it, let alone Being Across the nation.
Washington DC was built to handle the First 13, not the last 37.
Lets build a new Facility, where no one has to travel 3000 miles to get tot the center of government.
Lets build housing for those EMPLOYED, Lock it down and see if we can get these folks to WORK FOR US, not Against US.
These are public Servants, how did they ever get to any heights of Power that we Never gave them.
This is an HONOR position, and the Honor is gone. They walk in getting a Salary That is Equal to over $360,000 per year(its only 6 months per year), do only 1/2 the work after that(spend more time campaigning), get Extra money to back the corps, end up with millions and more money WE DID NOT PAY THEM. Get better Benefits then most people in the Whole nation.
Lets move Washington DC.
Its a marvelous thing.
And as Mentioned, Where in Hell is the public Location?
When will the gov GIVE that to us.
I wonder about those sites that TRIED to put up locations to Create Petitions to congress/senate. How well have those sites done? (BADLY)(Very BADLY)
The Search on them is Horrendous, The search will show you 500 of the things you are looking for, all saying different things on the SAME thoughts. But HOW do we add/edit it, as a REAL BILL gets edited. When going thru 10,000 choices, and finding what you want? That says what you want, and ?
AND then try to get Congress to acknowledge it as a CITIZENS MANDATE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDYFiq1l5Dg
All I would like is the Balance we used to have. There were REASONS they were setup the way they were. And the Gun has been loaded in such a way, that it cant be used by anyone else.
over how many years??
After we took advantage of the Irish, after they came here from a famine?
After the Chinese came here for the same reason??
And built the Intercontinental railway??
After the Russian revolution?
BEFORE WWI, and WWII, when many came here because THERE WAS NO WAR.
MOST Americans came tot he USA, because they didnt like the persecution or the wars in the EU and other locations.
WE were the promised land.
What is it?
That the internet corps arent paying to have the gov. protect them?
Newspaper vs Internet? Information control?
Control over the internet? with threats?
the corps have tons of backdoors if anything bad happens? Love LLC. and Lawyers.
Rather go after those with money then those posting comments?
But as both sides in politics, LEAN hard on the 1st amendment does much of this do anything?
How many internet companies would love to get rid of monitors for their sites. Because the corps Love suing Bigger corps. How many corps would love to sue Google Directly for Sharing? video, Pictures, music is a large range. And why change Laws when you can make the OWNER liable? As well as control the forums and Chats.
But if a Chat/forum, Keeps everything or Monitors, there is a fault. As in the Owner becomes the one responsible for idiots. And that spammer or Bias SOB, is going to sue you for not keeping his post. Just to get the money.
PS.
The Republicans removed laws, about corps being responsible to anyone, already. Not even to the gov. And this is part of whats happening even now.
They want autonomy. A nation unto themselves, and you cant take them to court. Not easily. and if you get to court and have a fair judge, they can keep you there the rest of your life. back and forth with no reasoning.
AC,
BUT you paid to access the web.
That does not make it public.
The rights you have is to Create your OWN site, to stand on a Box and wave your flag, all you want.
Section 230, is that the server OWNER nor the Server farm Maker, are NOT held liable for what you want on your site. AND YOU ware not Liable for what is posted on your site.
Lets remove YOUR PROTECTION. And how many times would you be in court, because you BLOCKED an idiot, or DIDNT block the idiot? A viable Threat to any person, would not LEAVe you out of the loop. Even if they could not find the Author, you will be next, or standing next to them IF they do find him.
Oh!, also leave up 1 threat to a Political person, and you are LIABLE, if anyone leaves a threat on your site.
If someone declares they are commiting suicide, and its NOT reported IMMEDIATELY, YOU ARE LIABLE IF THEY DIE.
Do you want the Job of monitoring the site? GO FOR IT, thats even worse.
WHICH BIG TECH?
Because most of the sites ARE NOT Big tech. They are private concerns, as if you had created it yourself.
And Even HERE, if someone posted a Death threat, I think there would be a Problem. Erase it or report it, Take your pick. In both cases, you would keep it, to show the police. But if you consider it NOT REAL, as in everyday mad libs, you would just erase it.
Why erase it? Because the NEW LAW would demand that you do that, or the Site host/Server owner/SOMEONE other then the POSTER is responsible? Damned if you do and damned if you dont.
Who is responsible if you Crash your car? The insurance because you paid for it, the Car dealer cause he sold it to you, the Manufacturer Because they MADE IT, or the idiot behind the wheel?
As a threat.
A person goes Deep into the back log of a Forum, and Places a small note about 'Something stupid'.
And its kinda hidden. Its a suggestion of bad things.
(how you get bad things, is ??)
And now your site loses 230 protections.
But how far does this impact?
The creator of the Forum?
The server owner?
Or the Whole shabang, up to the corporation that setup the Server farm?
No limits listed.
"Money Talks
Because our system is so unfair and inaccurate with more than two candidates, voters learn the hard way that it's only safe to vote for the two front-runners. And who are the front-runners most of the time? Candidates with name recognition, press coverage and most of all big money backing. The system is set up and designed to give big money big influence. No wonder corruption runs rampant. Candidates are often held hostage by their donors and fundraising becomes a big part of the job. More importantly, the voters are held hostage by that big money too. Nobody wants to throw their vote away on spoiler candidate and risk splitting the vote. "
But how in hell does a person get enough money to compete? $400,000,000 is a huge number and they have surpased it Just to run for election.For a job that wont pay them back for it, UNLESS they are supposed to, in 1 way or another.And if you do something for them, there is a great chance they will spend that money Again to keep you in office.
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Anti conservative bias.
When will they add this to newspapers, TV and other media sources Like PLAYBOY.
On the post: Mississippi Says AT&T Took $283 Million For A Network It Never Fully Deployed
Always wondered.
After the Gov. paid off the telecoms, to run lines into the RURAL areas.. Did the corps make any moreny from it, or is it that the made LESS from those rural areas, then they wanted?
But even after the fact, the gov. kept paying off the Telecoms every year, to keep it up.
Or did they think it was a Write off on taxes?
Over time I would think that the Major metro Corps, would be the Big money, and Big demand, but they needed access to all the Citizens to use some of that power.
Their only job now is charging people to make Phone calls, and taking any money from anyone that wishes to use the lines. But the lines have to be up and to as many as possible. But they stopped seeing the point, that everyone needed access, so that Sellers can make money, and they could charge for that access.
So, you play the game. get the Gov. to TRY to push the corp buttons. 1/4 trillion is about 6-8 CEO wages worth?? But the prices didnt even go down after that.
Would love to see the contracts being made between the Movie, channels, HBO, and soforth to really see how much is being passed back and forth. But thats PRIVATE CORP BUSINESS.
Then comes the other parts. The TV/CABLE industry and the internet. All rolled up into 1 big BANK.
The Cable part is interesting, because of the wireless built into it for distribution, and I WOULD think that the Corps would Love to do this to everyone, and not use the Backbone. Wireless to Each reagion/area and then Cable to the locals. But its not happening, the way it should.
How many Sats would you need? To have interactive, up/down/back and forth Data to cover 1 metro area? Millions of people using the system to talk/internet/cable/sat.
Ask the Digital Sat services how hard it is already, Just to have FULL band TV access. Then ask the Cable distribution how much fun it is to Scramble and send it to everyone.
The Whole system gets complicated, and Lag, and weather, and this and that.
Would it be nice if you could have it all in 1. Phone, wireless, Cell, Cable TV, All at 1 low price on 1-2 fiber cable to your home for $100 per month?
But, But Fiber is probably better underground, NOT on poles(Weather sucks, and Temps change how things work). But do they see how this could work.
Every home could/would be a great Small location for cellphone service, and you wouldnt NEED HUGE Antenna's, and the coverage would be RIGHT down the freeway's. A nice box on everyones home giving all the services anyone wanted.
But the caveat. Tends to be that the Major Backbone does not Cover everywhere. Its not under the Freeway, Everywhere.
If it was, then it would be nothing to install remote locations in every small town. There are Tons of back roads to areas not covered, not near the freeways. Go to sun valley, and there is not much there, anyone take a Fiber up the mountain area would be Kissed, and get paid TONS for a Roaming signal. How would $1 per connection feel, and you would cover 3 towns along the way.(at least) All owned by rich people.
On the post: New Study: Once Again, The Mainstream Media Is A Bigger Problem In Spreading Disinformation Than Social Media
lets compare
News on the TV.
News on the net.
News in social groups.
TV and the news Published on the Net tend to be about equal. There are a few agencies on the net that Consider themselves NEWS, but are more opinion then anything else, or they just repeat what others say already.
Scoial groups tend to Gather those of the like. And reinforce thenselves, over and over. With a few Joining to contest and debate.
And as an OPEN system would be there to keep debating. But a closed system gets them Kicked, as not following the Lines of conversation and finding foundation in assumptions.
Watching TV or the News channels that are the Major sevices, including those from other countries, CAN give you an outside view, if you mix them up and watch more then 1-2. But thats not letting Many of us Comment/debate/ask questions, or find answers to our thoughts.
If you are willing to sit in a can, and let others Fill it with BS, you are liable to babble BS. If you have questions, you can never get answers. If you never see alternatives to what Stopped your car from working you only have the opinion of the Mechanic, who fixed it last time for the same problem.
On the post: Nikola's Plan To Combat Its No Good, Very Bad Month Appears To Be Using Copyright To Silence Critics
Re: Re:
Abot to wonder IF' the video was publicly used, then why isnt it Public, and not Private.
Can you see Every corp stomp around YT, contesting the Old commercials?
How about Warner brothers, getting upset, about all the OLD cartoons on YT?
On the post: Federal Court Says Trump's Law Enforcement Commission Violates Federal Law
Would it be nice?
If there were a site that all Public notices were posted by the gov?
Not having to goto this and this, and that , and the other site??
How much access does a nation have, if no one knows about it, let alone Being Across the nation.
Washington DC was built to handle the First 13, not the last 37.
Lets build a new Facility, where no one has to travel 3000 miles to get tot the center of government.
Lets build housing for those EMPLOYED, Lock it down and see if we can get these folks to WORK FOR US, not Against US.
These are public Servants, how did they ever get to any heights of Power that we Never gave them.
This is an HONOR position, and the Honor is gone. They walk in getting a Salary That is Equal to over $360,000 per year(its only 6 months per year), do only 1/2 the work after that(spend more time campaigning), get Extra money to back the corps, end up with millions and more money WE DID NOT PAY THEM. Get better Benefits then most people in the Whole nation.
Lets move Washington DC.
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
Re: "Stupid computer! It doesn't do what I want, only what I tel
Dont that work for Managers and employees, also?
He only does what I tell him, and not the way I mean it to be done.
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
Re:
So you are declaring that you are "all F'ed up"? and we arnt?
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
Re: Re:
he does have evidence, as he is still here, For Some odd reasoning(?).
He could have walked away, but?
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
Freedom of speach.?
Its a marvelous thing.
And as Mentioned, Where in Hell is the public Location?
When will the gov GIVE that to us.
I wonder about those sites that TRIED to put up locations to Create Petitions to congress/senate. How well have those sites done? (BADLY)(Very BADLY)
The Search on them is Horrendous, The search will show you 500 of the things you are looking for, all saying different things on the SAME thoughts. But HOW do we add/edit it, as a REAL BILL gets edited. When going thru 10,000 choices, and finding what you want? That says what you want, and ?
AND then try to get Congress to acknowledge it as a CITIZENS MANDATE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDYFiq1l5Dg
All I would like is the Balance we used to have. There were REASONS they were setup the way they were. And the Gun has been loaded in such a way, that it cant be used by anyone else.
On the post: Congressional Republicans With No Strategy On Pandemic, Healthcare, Societal Problems... Have Decided That The Internet Is The Real Problem
Re: You Can't Stop The Signal, Mal.
over how many years??
After we took advantage of the Irish, after they came here from a famine?
After the Chinese came here for the same reason??
And built the Intercontinental railway??
After the Russian revolution?
BEFORE WWI, and WWII, when many came here because THERE WAS NO WAR.
MOST Americans came tot he USA, because they didnt like the persecution or the wars in the EU and other locations.
WE were the promised land.
On the post: Why Are Senate Democrats Helping Move Forward Trump's Strategy Of Attacking The Internet?
Just to ask.
WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO REGULATE THIS?
NOT THE FCC.
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And what do we TEACH these people?
red right religious and conservative ?
I love the demand that Poor people have to be HONEST. and they still dont believe us.
On the post: Jim Jordan Releases Yet ANOTHER Anti-230 Bill (Yes Another One)
Can I suggest
They are doing this just to bother Wyden?
To get him out of meetings and so forth?
On the post: Congressional Republicans With No Strategy On Pandemic, Healthcare, Societal Problems... Have Decided That The Internet Is The Real Problem
Very little justification
What is it?
That the internet corps arent paying to have the gov. protect them?
Newspaper vs Internet? Information control?
Control over the internet? with threats?
the corps have tons of backdoors if anything bad happens? Love LLC. and Lawyers.
Rather go after those with money then those posting comments?
But as both sides in politics, LEAN hard on the 1st amendment does much of this do anything?
How many internet companies would love to get rid of monitors for their sites. Because the corps Love suing Bigger corps. How many corps would love to sue Google Directly for Sharing? video, Pictures, music is a large range. And why change Laws when you can make the OWNER liable? As well as control the forums and Chats.
But if a Chat/forum, Keeps everything or Monitors, there is a fault. As in the Owner becomes the one responsible for idiots. And that spammer or Bias SOB, is going to sue you for not keeping his post. Just to get the money.
On the post: Because Congress Apparently Has NOTHING AT ALL IMPORTANT To Work On, It Introduced TWO MORE Section 230 Bills Yesterday
Re: Re:
PS.
The Republicans removed laws, about corps being responsible to anyone, already. Not even to the gov. And this is part of whats happening even now.
They want autonomy. A nation unto themselves, and you cant take them to court. Not easily. and if you get to court and have a fair judge, they can keep you there the rest of your life. back and forth with no reasoning.
On the post: Because Congress Apparently Has NOTHING AT ALL IMPORTANT To Work On, It Introduced TWO MORE Section 230 Bills Yesterday
Re: Re:
AC,
BUT you paid to access the web.
That does not make it public.
The rights you have is to Create your OWN site, to stand on a Box and wave your flag, all you want.
Section 230, is that the server OWNER nor the Server farm Maker, are NOT held liable for what you want on your site. AND YOU ware not Liable for what is posted on your site.
Lets remove YOUR PROTECTION. And how many times would you be in court, because you BLOCKED an idiot, or DIDNT block the idiot? A viable Threat to any person, would not LEAVe you out of the loop. Even if they could not find the Author, you will be next, or standing next to them IF they do find him.
Oh!, also leave up 1 threat to a Political person, and you are LIABLE, if anyone leaves a threat on your site.
If someone declares they are commiting suicide, and its NOT reported IMMEDIATELY, YOU ARE LIABLE IF THEY DIE.
Do you want the Job of monitoring the site? GO FOR IT, thats even worse.
On the post: Why Do Republican Senators Seem To Want To Turn Every Website Into A Trash Heap Of Racism & Abuse?
Just want to know.
How much SPAM is blocked tho?
Isnt that free speech??
Or just blocking trade?
The bigger the site the better the target for Adverts and SPAM.
On the post: Because Congress Apparently Has NOTHING AT ALL IMPORTANT To Work On, It Introduced TWO MORE Section 230 Bills Yesterday
Re: Right Idea
WHICH BIG TECH?
Because most of the sites ARE NOT Big tech. They are private concerns, as if you had created it yourself.
And Even HERE, if someone posted a Death threat, I think there would be a Problem. Erase it or report it, Take your pick. In both cases, you would keep it, to show the police. But if you consider it NOT REAL, as in everyday mad libs, you would just erase it.
Why erase it? Because the NEW LAW would demand that you do that, or the Site host/Server owner/SOMEONE other then the POSTER is responsible? Damned if you do and damned if you dont.
Who is responsible if you Crash your car? The insurance because you paid for it, the Car dealer cause he sold it to you, the Manufacturer Because they MADE IT, or the idiot behind the wheel?
On the post: I See This Stupid New Section 230 Bill, And I Say It's A Stupid Section 230 Bill
I can see it now.
As a threat.
A person goes Deep into the back log of a Forum, and Places a small note about 'Something stupid'.
And its kinda hidden. Its a suggestion of bad things.
(how you get bad things, is ??)
And now your site loses 230 protections.
But how far does this impact?
The creator of the Forum?
The server owner?
Or the Whole shabang, up to the corporation that setup the Server farm?
No limits listed.
On the post: Josh Hawley Is A Lying Demagogue Who Has Built A Fake Fantasy World About 'Evil Big Tech'
Re: Re: Re: Fantasy
"Money Talks
Because our system is so unfair and inaccurate with more than two candidates, voters learn the hard way that it's only safe to vote for the two front-runners. And who are the front-runners most of the time? Candidates with name recognition, press coverage and most of all big money backing. The system is set up and designed to give big money big influence. No wonder corruption runs rampant. Candidates are often held hostage by their donors and fundraising becomes a big part of the job. More importantly, the voters are held hostage by that big money too. Nobody wants to throw their vote away on spoiler candidate and risk splitting the vote. "
But how in hell does a person get enough money to compete? $400,000,000 is a huge number and they have surpased it Just to run for election.For a job that wont pay them back for it, UNLESS they are supposed to, in 1 way or another.And if you do something for them, there is a great chance they will spend that money Again to keep you in office.
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