Basically, the military is allowed to work inside the US. So they can lock you up, hold no trials, and call you a terrorist without any way for you to defend the accusation.
Didn't you read that Hezbollah just "broke up" a "CIA" ring?
That had nothing to do with the Wikileaks issues. The CIA got sloppy in being tracked. Hezbollah
And the "intertube" defense is that he's a "whistleblower"???
He was. He opened the Collateral Murder video for open discussion in the world. The government's response in punishing him for 19 months is enough. He was punished far more than any other whistleblower out there. Even Daniel Ellsberg received less jail time for an arraignment, and he blew the whistle on higher level documents
No, the fact is Manning's documents helped to overthrow Tunisia's government, and begin the Arab Springs movement. Because of those cables, we now know the issues with the MPAA and Sweden, Australia, and the UK in trying to enforce more copyright law.
They reveal how the US deals with both its allies and its enemies – negotiating, pressuring and sometimes brusquely denigrating foreign leaders, all behind the firewalls of ciphers and secrecy classifications that diplomats assume to be secure. The leaked cables range up to the "SECRET NOFORN" level, which means they are meant never to be shown to non-US citizens.
As the wikileaks story continued, a lot of people began to realize that some of these stories should not have been a secret anyway.
If we increase the penalties for speeding tickets, that's going to make more people obey the speeding laws in a section.
Those rogue drivers in another state won't understand the harm that comes to them if they're 1 mph over the speed limit. And what about the safety of the children?
Even if all evidence points out that the car may not be speeding, it's still Toyota's fault. Curse those rogue car makers!
I'm actually interested in running a series. I have the details laid out, but I don't know enough of the technology used to make this work for what I want. What did you use?
Jay, you get rid of DMCA, and you can toss Youtube out the window. It's done. No notices, just sue their asses off for every infraction. They would be shut down in days.
You seemed so ready to throw out the DMCA safe harbors. Now you're saying that it will cause Youtube to be destroyed for every infringement. One doesn't follow the other.
If you noticed, the other deals make statutory damages more harmful. I'm sure you can look up each act and see how they're out of proportion to the reality of infringement.
What the repeal of each increased enforcement act would do is make infringement a misdemeanor as it should be. People won't face jail time but a fine for the infringement. The courts wouldn't waste time in dismissing the cases and would have greater flexibility in penalties instead of the $150,000 per damage of the current laws.
Finally, you would increase the public domain by repealing the SBEA. Fair Use would increase, less incentive for the enforcement angle, more creativity, everyone wins. Oh, except the trade industries. They would still want control even though the world is against them.
He's correct in his assessment. Your analogy is flawed. Coca-Cola was using the coca leaves for an elixir at first. They found it made a great tonic and eventually moved into making a drink. How about Listerine used to create the problem of fighting bad breath? The law wasn't used to club Coca-Cola over the head. They found a good market and changed with consumer demand.
What is occurring is how much the law is affecting regular business. Let's take the anti-streaming aspect of both bills:
Gamers will be affected if they can't use blip.tv, justin.tv, Youtube, or Ustream for potential copyright infringements. The platforms for their expression will be affected immensely.
Musicians won't be able to put up remixes on Soundcloud, Youtube, or their personal websites.
Movie buffs won't be able to express their interests in different movies or make remixes on the same platforms as described above.
Currently, all of these actions are legal under the law and Fair Use. With SOPA, the platforms are directly attacked, taking away the services that benefit the creative communities we have.
So effectively, what once was legal will be illegal under SOPA.
Clearly, if DMCA is an issue that is slowing them down, you would think they would hire more staff. Clearly, if they think that using engineers to handle DMCA is the only way to do it, then they will have significant expense.
You seem to fail to understand market failure versus governmental failure. They can survive with the DMCA because it specifically tailors the language narrowly so that Reddit isn't implicit in lawsuits.
SOPA is no more artificial than DMCA, which is what artificially created so many business models. You cannot call one out without the other. If SOPA is artificial, then get rid of all of those DMCA safe harbors and let's see who is left standing
Here's a better suggestion. Get rid of the DMCA, not just the safe harbors. Let's take it even further. Get rid of the Pro-IP, NET Act, and the Sonny Bono Extension Act. Let's see which industries survive on the free market. If you have no way to stop a copy, then by all means, make money based on the free market and licensing. Let's see who survives.
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Hold the phone...
You don't see the value in Reddit? A place for thousands or even millions of people to congregate and discuss topics? You don't see the value in that and pedantically look at how only "11" people are employed?
Hillary Clinton now has no credibility. Since she's been a part of the Monsanto law firm, it should be evident how much IP laws can harm the message she's trying portray with her audience. And yet, she's said nothing about SOPA and PIPA.
Monsanto has been trying to use patents to abuse other countries for decades. This is the reason we can't get true patent reform. They have someone on the inside (a lot of someones!) to warn Monsanto of true reform until it's watered down to ineffectiveness.
We can't have copyright law that favors the public because of all of the regulatory capture. We have no say in the enforcement angle because ICE can download whatever they want while selectively using the law to put others in jail. And yet, I'm reading how ICE isn't all that good with doing their professed job. Now they want to add copyright to the mix. And they've done a fine job of mucking that up as well.
As I'm aware, the US has taken a truly bad turn. We have a society that has tried to involve the public (1st box). We are working to replace those in government who are bad (2nd box). I have no faith in the 3rd box, because those in the judicial system have been elected by corrupted officials of the 2nd box.
What truly worries me is if we get into the 4th (ammo) box.
If we can't steer our government from the fascism that it has turned into...
If we, the people, can't change our government with non violent protest...
If we, the people, can't find peaceful resolutions to the problems dominating our society...
Then how are we to call ourselves a free society? We can't. How are we to avoid that last liberty box? It'll be inevitable. We have a government using censorship and secrecy to oppress the people. There's a list of conspirators up above. Even if we can remove most of these people from offices of power, how do we change all of the damage that they've caused?
As I see it, there are a number of things that can be done:
- Change our voting system from electoral First Past the Post
- Eliminate money in politics
- Close the revolving door of politics
I'm sure that once these steps are taken, everything else can fall into place. If these steps are not taken, I'm sure the government will be the next thing taken down similar to Iraq (irony?), Libya, or Tunisia.
The Special 301 Report has been laughable for 20 years. It has not stopped piracy, but it has been used to put significant pressures on countries to comply with lopsided copyright laws or face sanctions. Brazil is the perfect example. Because of US bullying in copyright, they had to shut down pharmaceutical plants that would have helped numerous Brazilians over expensive imports from America.
Meanwhile, the people that read these reports just found new advertising due to the rogue sites list.
What's absolutely amazing is this: If rogue sites are such a large problem, why do they only have a few sites? The music industry has already seized 450 sites with the MPAA and ICE. Obviously, the rogue sites problem is solved by now.
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The Repo Men was a remake of a Brazilian movie.
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Second sign, no rebuttal to what is being discussed.
I guess being hit with a mach truck full of facts hurts a little, huh?
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Re: Shame To See Tepp Pilloried Like This
No, he wasn't off a decimal point. He was off by ten thousandths of a decimal point. Big difference.
But the detailed sums are not important--only some logic-obsessed, math-manic anal retentive would worry about those.
Damn straight. The nerds are doing much better than an inept lobbyist that only knows how to be a slime ball.
The overall trend is still there, and the outlook for our precious Intellectual Property looks dire unless something is done soon
Yeah, pass SOPA. See the US revolt. Something will be done.
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That had nothing to do with the Wikileaks issues. The CIA got sloppy in being tracked. Hezbollah
And the "intertube" defense is that he's a "whistleblower"???
He was. He opened the Collateral Murder video for open discussion in the world. The government's response in punishing him for 19 months is enough. He was punished far more than any other whistleblower out there. Even Daniel Ellsberg received less jail time for an arraignment, and he blew the whistle on higher level documents
No, the fact is Manning's documents helped to overthrow Tunisia's government, and begin the Arab Springs movement. Because of those cables, we now know the issues with the MPAA and Sweden, Australia, and the UK in trying to enforce more copyright law.
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They reveal how the US deals with both its allies and its enemies – negotiating, pressuring and sometimes brusquely denigrating foreign leaders, all behind the firewalls of ciphers and secrecy classifications that diplomats assume to be secure. The leaked cables range up to the "SECRET NOFORN" level, which means they are meant never to be shown to non-US citizens.
As the wikileaks story continued, a lot of people began to realize that some of these stories should not have been a secret anyway.
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Those rogue drivers in another state won't understand the harm that comes to them if they're 1 mph over the speed limit. And what about the safety of the children?
Even if all evidence points out that the car may not be speeding, it's still Toyota's fault. Curse those rogue car makers!
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Re: .. and cue the apologists...
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You seemed so ready to throw out the DMCA safe harbors. Now you're saying that it will cause Youtube to be destroyed for every infringement. One doesn't follow the other.
If you noticed, the other deals make statutory damages more harmful. I'm sure you can look up each act and see how they're out of proportion to the reality of infringement.
What the repeal of each increased enforcement act would do is make infringement a misdemeanor as it should be. People won't face jail time but a fine for the infringement. The courts wouldn't waste time in dismissing the cases and would have greater flexibility in penalties instead of the $150,000 per damage of the current laws.
Finally, you would increase the public domain by repealing the SBEA. Fair Use would increase, less incentive for the enforcement angle, more creativity, everyone wins. Oh, except the trade industries. They would still want control even though the world is against them.
On the post: The Myth That SOPA/PIPA Only Impact 'Foreign Sites'
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He's correct in his assessment. Your analogy is flawed. Coca-Cola was using the coca leaves for an elixir at first. They found it made a great tonic and eventually moved into making a drink. How about Listerine used to create the problem of fighting bad breath? The law wasn't used to club Coca-Cola over the head. They found a good market and changed with consumer demand.
What is occurring is how much the law is affecting regular business. Let's take the anti-streaming aspect of both bills:
Gamers will be affected if they can't use blip.tv, justin.tv, Youtube, or Ustream for potential copyright infringements. The platforms for their expression will be affected immensely.
Musicians won't be able to put up remixes on Soundcloud, Youtube, or their personal websites.
Movie buffs won't be able to express their interests in different movies or make remixes on the same platforms as described above.
Currently, all of these actions are legal under the law and Fair Use. With SOPA, the platforms are directly attacked, taking away the services that benefit the creative communities we have.
So effectively, what once was legal will be illegal under SOPA.
On the post: The Myth That SOPA/PIPA Only Impact 'Foreign Sites'
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You seem to fail to understand market failure versus governmental failure. They can survive with the DMCA because it specifically tailors the language narrowly so that Reddit isn't implicit in lawsuits.
SOPA is no more artificial than DMCA, which is what artificially created so many business models. You cannot call one out without the other. If SOPA is artificial, then get rid of all of those DMCA safe harbors and let's see who is left standing
Here's a better suggestion. Get rid of the DMCA, not just the safe harbors. Let's take it even further. Get rid of the Pro-IP, NET Act, and the Sonny Bono Extension Act. Let's see which industries survive on the free market. If you have no way to stop a copy, then by all means, make money based on the free market and licensing. Let's see who survives.
On the post: The Myth That SOPA/PIPA Only Impact 'Foreign Sites'
Re: Re: Startups do not make campaign contributions
You don't see the value in Reddit? A place for thousands or even millions of people to congregate and discuss topics? You don't see the value in that and pedantically look at how only "11" people are employed?
Wow. Just... Wow...
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Hypocrisy from inside
Monsanto has been trying to use patents to abuse other countries for decades. This is the reason we can't get true patent reform. They have someone on the inside (a lot of someones!) to warn Monsanto of true reform until it's watered down to ineffectiveness.
We can't have copyright law that favors the public because of all of the regulatory capture. We have no say in the enforcement angle because ICE can download whatever they want while selectively using the law to put others in jail. And yet, I'm reading how ICE isn't all that good with doing their professed job. Now they want to add copyright to the mix. And they've done a fine job of mucking that up as well.
As I'm aware, the US has taken a truly bad turn. We have a society that has tried to involve the public (1st box). We are working to replace those in government who are bad (2nd box). I have no faith in the 3rd box, because those in the judicial system have been elected by corrupted officials of the 2nd box.
What truly worries me is if we get into the 4th (ammo) box.
If we can't steer our government from the fascism that it has turned into...
If we, the people, can't change our government with non violent protest...
If we, the people, can't find peaceful resolutions to the problems dominating our society...
Then how are we to call ourselves a free society? We can't. How are we to avoid that last liberty box? It'll be inevitable. We have a government using censorship and secrecy to oppress the people. There's a list of conspirators up above. Even if we can remove most of these people from offices of power, how do we change all of the damage that they've caused?
As I see it, there are a number of things that can be done:
- Change our voting system from electoral First Past the Post
- Eliminate money in politics
- Close the revolving door of politics
I'm sure that once these steps are taken, everything else can fall into place. If these steps are not taken, I'm sure the government will be the next thing taken down similar to Iraq (irony?), Libya, or Tunisia.
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Iran hacked a drone and took it down peacefully to dissect it.
The US has no idea about cybersecurity and yet, their security was destroyed by a spy with a keylogger over a year. It's amazing how that works.
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Meanwhile, the people that read these reports just found new advertising due to the rogue sites list.
What's absolutely amazing is this: If rogue sites are such a large problem, why do they only have a few sites? The music industry has already seized 450 sites with the MPAA and ICE. Obviously, the rogue sites problem is solved by now.
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