Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 1 Apr 2016 @ 5:45am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Only part of the problem
Not only do they not (or at least, none of the major ones I know of), but they make it a point to tell you very clearly that they don't, and if anyone calls to claim otherwise, don't talk to them.
But UK banks, credit card companies, insurance companies and others do and if you complain about it, the answer is basically "tough shit".
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 31 Mar 2016 @ 3:38pm
Re: Re: Only part of the problem
My bank has never, not once, called my and requested a password. In fact, my bank has (obnoxiously) often sent me emails telling me they cannot access my password, and will never request it on a phone call or email
Yeah, that's what they say and as far as your online password that's correct. However, phone bank services etc often use a "password" as shorthand, or sometimes certain characters of a passphrase. Failing that, they will usually verify your identity with personal details such as DOB, mother's maiden name etc... in the case of insurance, sometimes make/model/reg of vehicle.
All this I have no problem with.... except when they phone you and request this kind of info, which (I suppose US banks may not), UK banks etc do all the time.
And no, I don't give out that kind of information... I find the call centre number independently and ring them back to discuss whatever it is so I can be sure I'm actually talking to the company they claim to be.... I've even complained about the practice and got told "Well that's just how we do it and we have to prevent fraud" - basically a "We're doing it to cover our ass, not yours"
My point is that this kind of practice conditions most people to simply answer this kind of question to (at least) anyone that they think they have a trust relationship with. People putting their password into the site of a "trusted brand" is hardly surprising considering.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 31 Mar 2016 @ 10:58am
Only part of the problem
Whatever the list of password do's and don'ts are, that list must certainly include something about not simply typing your passwords into online search fields for fun.
The saddest bit is that, stupid though it is, people are largely conditioned to accept this kind of social engineering attack (Yes I know it wasn't an attack, but it may as well have been!).
How often to banks/credit card companies/insurance companies ring you up and demand you "verify" your identity by handing over all sorts of personal info and/or passwords? Basically the same thing.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 31 Mar 2016 @ 6:08am
Indeed
It also shows that the one-sided nature of corporate sovereignty -- where companies can sue nations, but not the other way around -- not only tilts the playing field unfairly towards investors, but encourages them to abuse the system even further. Both are compelling reasons to drop corporate sovereignty chapters in trade agreements completely.
Well, yes indeed.... but the argument; "Our corporation basically bought you the election and you wouldn't want those 'fact finding' trips to stop either, would you?" is far more compelling and suggests this kind of thing is unlikely to stop any time soon...
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 29 Mar 2016 @ 5:33am
Re: Perjury...undermines trust in *ENTIRE* FBI
What about the perjury???
This was my question too... talk about double standards. IANAL, but surely you've got perjury, perhaps a contempt of court and would Apple not also have a cause of action to sue for having been dragged into court with all the associated costs under false pretences?
...or is breaking the law something that only happens to people who are not agents of the state?
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 28 Mar 2016 @ 12:50pm
Can I put in for transfer to another planet? One in which a muppet like this is so close to being elected president is way too bat-shit insane even for me....
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 25 Mar 2016 @ 10:57am
Re: Failure?
We need to consider that in a free society there are limits to what can be "stopped".
THIS!
...Though I can never tell if years of governments promising a magic "stop" button has caused it, or whether a large chunk of the population believing there is a magic "stop" button leads governments to promise one.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 24 Mar 2016 @ 7:43am
Re:
I've lived all over the country, and I've never heard of "Space City" being readily identifiable with Houston,
Well I live several thousand miles away on another continent and have never been to Houston and I've heard the nickname "Space City" for it... does that count?
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 22 Mar 2016 @ 9:23am
Of course
The "anti-lobbying" clause to be inserted into new grant agreements will create a barrier to evidence-based policymaking and will have unintended effects on the work of [Parliament's advisory] select committees.
"Because, damnit, how is a good politician supposed to pass laws based on blind faith if you keep coming at me with all these facts!?"
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 19 Mar 2016 @ 7:48am
Re:
So the UK as a whole (the people and the governments) have perhaps a different view of things because of their experiences.
You seem to be attempting to imply that the UK does this crap because "we know how scary is really is out there and this is what's really needed".
Wrong... in fact 180 degrees wrong. Certainly any UK citizen alive in the '80s is familiar with the threat of terrorism more intimately and immediately than the mot ofthe US but that lends a rather more sensible perspective. Such people know that, while terrible, the actual threat is small - potentially even vanishingly small - and barely worth more than a slightly cautious thought in day-to-day life.
The issue is not whether the UK population wants this law (it doesn't)(, the issue is whether the UK government wants this law that will in fact do little to combat "terrorism" that is not already being done) for other reasons and whether the UK population is little enough aware of the real dangers of it to swallow the propaganda or only raise a mild and polite English protest.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 15 Mar 2016 @ 9:20am
Surely not a mistake
But many in the administration have begun to suspect that the F.B.I. and the Justice Department may have made a major strategic error by pushing the case into the public consciousness.
Surely deliberate, rather than a strategic error? After all, in a democracy giving "the people" an unvarnished chance to weigh in on major issues is what it's all about... right?
....
Yeah, OK, I had a hard time keeping a straight face even typing that...
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 12 Mar 2016 @ 2:28am
wrong again
I haven't flown commercial in a while, but my understanding is that it's not great fun going through security. But we make the concession because -- it's a big intrusion on our privacy -- but we recognize that it is important.
Nope. We "make the concession" NOT because we "recognise it's important", but because our personal reasons for travel are sufficiently important to put up with the annoying and intrusive crap and because enough people have yet to stand up and say, "You know this is totally bullshit, right?"
Looks like you're 2 for 2 on being wrong about security front, Mr. Obama...
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 9 Mar 2016 @ 2:23am
Benefits
Limiting the use of broadband data...would constrain broadband providers’ ability to provide numerous benefits to consumers.
That would be "benefits" like slow data rates, throttling, usage caps, enormous overage fees, shit customer service, crap reliability and insanely high monopoly pricing... right?
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What the (*&%*&%$*&%(*^^)%$%$!!!!!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Only part of the problem
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Re: Re: Only part of the problem
All this I have no problem with.... except when they phone you and request this kind of info, which (I suppose US banks may not), UK banks etc do all the time.
And no, I don't give out that kind of information... I find the call centre number independently and ring them back to discuss whatever it is so I can be sure I'm actually talking to the company they claim to be.... I've even complained about the practice and got told "Well that's just how we do it and we have to prevent fraud" - basically a "We're doing it to cover our ass, not yours"
My point is that this kind of practice conditions most people to simply answer this kind of question to (at least) anyone that they think they have a trust relationship with. People putting their password into the site of a "trusted brand" is hardly surprising considering.
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Only part of the problem
How often to banks/credit card companies/insurance companies ring you up and demand you "verify" your identity by handing over all sorts of personal info and/or passwords? Basically the same thing.
As for password security.. well :
Obligatory XKCD
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Indeed
"Our corporation basically bought you the election and you wouldn't want those 'fact finding' trips to stop either, would you?"
is far more compelling and suggests this kind of thing is unlikely to stop any time soon...
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Re: Perjury...undermines trust in *ENTIRE* FBI
...or is breaking the law something that only happens to people who are not agents of the state?
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besides, it may not long survive if he does...
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Re: Failure?
...Though I can never tell if years of governments promising a magic "stop" button has caused it, or whether a large chunk of the population believing there is a magic "stop" button leads governments to promise one.
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Re:
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Of course
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Re: Re: "Now remember son, don't say or do anything. At all. Just sit there and try to look harmless."
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Re:
Wrong... in fact 180 degrees wrong. Certainly any UK citizen alive in the '80s is familiar with the threat of terrorism more intimately and immediately than the mot ofthe US but that lends a rather more sensible perspective. Such people know that, while terrible, the actual threat is small - potentially even vanishingly small - and barely worth more than a slightly cautious thought in day-to-day life.
The issue is not whether the UK population wants this law (it doesn't)(, the issue is whether the UK government wants this law that will in fact do little to combat "terrorism" that is not already being done) for other reasons and whether the UK population is little enough aware of the real dangers of it to swallow the propaganda or only raise a mild and polite English protest.
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Huh?
How the hell many ways are there to do that which aren't totally obvious to anyone with a bit of foam, a stick and an adhesive of some kind???
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Surely not a mistake
....
Yeah, OK, I had a hard time keeping a straight face even typing that...
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wrong again
Looks like you're 2 for 2 on being wrong about security front, Mr. Obama...
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Re: Liar!
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Benefits
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Re: Re: Re:
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Re: Well yes, but...
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