This is the reason we sometimes need socialized services. Much the way USPS is the only delivery service that guarantees delivery to any residence or place of business in the US (whether or not it's profitable to ship things there), there are some services for which access should be guaranteed. Things like water and power.
And in 2021, broadband internet.
Given the shitty service Comcast already provides, I can't imagine if it were seized by the state for imminent domain that it would do any worse.
Not that this could happen in the US given that our government rules not for the people but for plutocrats.
There are few ethical considerations when robbing from rent seekers who are, themselves a massive drain on the rest of the economy. We might as well be preying on the Spanish silver train.๐ดโโ ๏ธ
But eliminating 230 (or preserving it) is going to do little to stop internet distribution of media, if that's what you're afraid of. The efforts so far to paint the sharing community in a bad light have driven it to develop its own infrastructure and make sure it's good and concealed. You can lock down the internet all you want, and by the time you stop the sharers, you will have driven all the cat enthusiasts, porn enthusiasts and social media addicts to violent revolution.
Maybe when big media starts learning to make content worth paying for, those of us who have money to toss its way will do so. But for now, they're still trying to rob morons who don't know any better while not paying their artists or techs.
Maybe we should blast you out of the water so as to encourage the others.
My response to this got sucked up for mod review and then seemed to vanish.
Right now, we spend crazy amounts on detention centers to pack them into disease-ridden rooms and let ICE agents spit on them, where they get insufficient food or care, and no medical care.
If we stuck them in a Hyatt and paid for room service it would be cheaper. If we send them to boarding school for white kids of rich families, it would be cheaper. So if we just kitted them up with bag lunches and bus tickets to wherever they're going, it'd be cheaper.
And that's before we're talking about ICE's immense budget to kidnap nonwhites and send them to where they'll have a tough time not getting killed or trafficked.
Taxpayers already pay ridiculous amounts into our immigration program (or our keep-immigrants-out program), and instead of something that works we get a fuckton of atrocities committed by state agents in the name of the United States.
Let's stop doing that and use some of the money we save to do the other thing.
Bah! We didn't need to. Antifa mind-control laser satellites compelled the MAGA rally crowd to march on the Capitol!๐ฐ Their aluminum-foil headgear failed to block the signal, rather served as an antenna, making it stronger!๐งข๐ถ
We have legions!๐ช๐ช๐ช We have buses!๐๐๐
You might want to consider contacting a crisis counselor or getting into a support group (a 12-step like AA will do.) Maybe you should give up news and podcasts for a month. Also put some distance between yourself and any dangerous machinery.
You sound ready to pack your trenchcoat and plastique and go out and massacre a dance venue. Think about how the news agencies will harass your loved ones in the aftermath.
Part of the problem is the mentally ill are more susceptible to situations that could require intervention. Mental illness is disproportionately represented among victims of domestic violence, and yet they are also already disregarded by law enforcement. Extreme examples might look like Konerak Sinthasomphone who the police returned to Jeffrey Dahmer on the pretense he was inebriated in public.
We don't need a crackpots list of people that 911 can dismiss, rather we need a special needs list that tracks who has what problems, and a paranoid seeing masked reptilians again can be linked to a case worker or a crisis councilor. And if he just escaped a stabbing and is bleeding out, he can be summoned an ambulance (of reptilian med techs) to render first aid.
We need to develop a system that will handle village idiots and village drunks as well as ordinary villagers, with none of them falling victim to preventable bad outcomes.
The danger is the unions (and the white-supremacist elements within them) have a strong grip on a system that wants to keep them in place. We're moving towards a state where law enforcement can not only systematically oppress minority groups, but also dissenters of the regime.
If we moved forward with an effort to defund law enforcement in exchange for programs that more directly respond to community unrest, there's a good chance they'd respond with direct action, sabotage if not terrorism.
We are hostages to US law enforcement, expressed if the four people a day murdered by officers with impunity. And they'll show this if ever we present an effective legal challenge to their authority.
Turns out we tried that. All the net-nanny software relied on the same database.
Not only could kids not go to kid-friendly guidance pages about sex and grown up stuff, but everything LGBT+ was blocked out, even if it had nothing to do with sex. Disney got blocked out sometimes. And then Anti-LGBT+ sites got through, even though they contained the same kind of hate speech that white supremacist and Islamist terror pages did. It turns out the database had a very American Protestant Christian bias.
Even the filters on our search engines are weird. I've mentioned before that I can't find an engine that gives me truly unfiltered hits, but first decides if I do or don't want porn, and gives me all porn or no porn accordingly.
The next best thing is for elected officials to hire tech advisors, the way we'd hope they'd hire advisors for any other situation that requires an expert (renewable power, India-Pakistani relations, climate change mitigation). However when it comes to computer and communications technology, our federal officials seem to pride themselves on their ignorance.
Once a civilization decides that fear sells, and it's socially acceptable to use fear to manipulate the masses, then yes the ones with money and power to amplify their voices get to decide who everyone else is angry at.
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Until it is profitable
This is the reason we sometimes need socialized services. Much the way USPS is the only delivery service that guarantees delivery to any residence or place of business in the US (whether or not it's profitable to ship things there), there are some services for which access should be guaranteed. Things like water and power.
And in 2021, broadband internet.
Given the shitty service Comcast already provides, I can't imagine if it were seized by the state for imminent domain that it would do any worse.
Not that this could happen in the US given that our government rules not for the people but for plutocrats.
So...eat the rich, I guess.
On the post: Utah Prematurely Tries To Dance On Section 230's Grave And Shows What Unconstitutional Garbage Will Follow If We Kill It
If it weren't for those thieving pirates
There are few ethical considerations when robbing from rent seekers who are, themselves a massive drain on the rest of the economy. We might as well be preying on the Spanish silver train.๐ดโโ ๏ธ
But eliminating 230 (or preserving it) is going to do little to stop internet distribution of media, if that's what you're afraid of. The efforts so far to paint the sharing community in a bad light have driven it to develop its own infrastructure and make sure it's good and concealed. You can lock down the internet all you want, and by the time you stop the sharers, you will have driven all the cat enthusiasts, porn enthusiasts and social media addicts to violent revolution.
Maybe when big media starts learning to make content worth paying for, those of us who have money to toss its way will do so. But for now, they're still trying to rob morons who don't know any better while not paying their artists or techs.
Maybe we should blast you out of the water so as to encourage the others.
On the post: ICE Is Also Using Utility Databases Run By Private Companies To Hunt Down Undocumented Immigrants
Let's help them then.
My response to this got sucked up for mod review and then seemed to vanish.
Right now, we spend crazy amounts on detention centers to pack them into disease-ridden rooms and let ICE agents spit on them, where they get insufficient food or care, and no medical care.
If we stuck them in a Hyatt and paid for room service it would be cheaper. If we send them to boarding school for white kids of rich families, it would be cheaper. So if we just kitted them up with bag lunches and bus tickets to wherever they're going, it'd be cheaper.
And that's before we're talking about ICE's immense budget to kidnap nonwhites and send them to where they'll have a tough time not getting killed or trafficked.
Taxpayers already pay ridiculous amounts into our immigration program (or our keep-immigrants-out program), and instead of something that works we get a fuckton of atrocities committed by state agents in the name of the United States.
Let's stop doing that and use some of the money we save to do the other thing.
On the post: ICE Is Also Using Utility Databases Run By Private Companies To Hunt Down Undocumented Immigrants
I take then, that Biden is okay with all of this?
It seems that not much has changed between Trump and Biden when it comes to ICE's overreach.
Once it was decided ICE had gone rogue, I'd think the administration would have ordered it to stand down but its conducting business as if it's 2017.
That includes detaining asylum seekers in overcrowded pens infected with COVID-19.
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The career politician
This is the principal argument for sortition. If we chose officials by lottery and drafted them into service, it would eliminate the career.
On the post: Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At Techdirt
"[Democrats] incited Antifa to storm the Capitol"
Bah! We didn't need to. Antifa mind-control laser satellites compelled the MAGA rally crowd to march on the Capitol!๐ฐ Their aluminum-foil headgear failed to block the signal, rather served as an antenna, making it stronger!๐งข๐ถ
We have legions!๐ช๐ช๐ช We have buses!๐๐๐
On the post: Mitch McConnell Using Section 230 Repeal As A Poison Pill To Avoid $2k Stimulus Checks
Consider surrendering your guns to a friend.
You might want to consider contacting a crisis counselor or getting into a support group (a 12-step like AA will do.) Maybe you should give up news and podcasts for a month. Also put some distance between yourself and any dangerous machinery.
You sound ready to pack your trenchcoat and plastique and go out and massacre a dance venue. Think about how the news agencies will harass your loved ones in the aftermath.
On the post: Law Enforcement, Social Media Users Turn An Act Of Kindness Into A Human Trafficking Investigation
Deranged persons
Part of the problem is the mentally ill are more susceptible to situations that could require intervention. Mental illness is disproportionately represented among victims of domestic violence, and yet they are also already disregarded by law enforcement. Extreme examples might look like Konerak Sinthasomphone who the police returned to Jeffrey Dahmer on the pretense he was inebriated in public.
We don't need a crackpots list of people that 911 can dismiss, rather we need a special needs list that tracks who has what problems, and a paranoid seeing masked reptilians again can be linked to a case worker or a crisis councilor. And if he just escaped a stabbing and is bleeding out, he can be summoned an ambulance (of reptilian med techs) to render first aid.
We need to develop a system that will handle village idiots and village drunks as well as ordinary villagers, with none of them falling victim to preventable bad outcomes.
On the post: Law Enforcement, Social Media Users Turn An Act Of Kindness Into A Human Trafficking Investigation
"Fuck law enforcement."
The danger is the unions (and the white-supremacist elements within them) have a strong grip on a system that wants to keep them in place. We're moving towards a state where law enforcement can not only systematically oppress minority groups, but also dissenters of the regime.
If we moved forward with an effort to defund law enforcement in exchange for programs that more directly respond to community unrest, there's a good chance they'd respond with direct action, sabotage if not terrorism.
We are hostages to US law enforcement, expressed if the four people a day murdered by officers with impunity. And they'll show this if ever we present an effective legal challenge to their authority.
On the post: 'Net Neutrality Hurt Internet Infrastructure Investment' Is The Bad Faith Lie That Simply Won't Die
I pretty much thought the 2013 fuck you...you can oligobble our balls situation was the reason infrastructure investment and development has failed.
I expect the southern half of the US to become a massive desert before that changes.
On the post: LAPD Asked Ring Users To Turn Over Footage Of Anti-Police Brutality Protests
Petitioning the state
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Anti-police protesting
There is an argument to be had that anti-police protesting is redundant.
Typically all protests are petitioning the state for grievances, and the police are the customer-service subdivision of the state.
On the post: Law Enforcement, Social Media Users Turn An Act Of Kindness Into A Human Trafficking Investigation
Don't call law enforcement. Don't talk to law enforcement.
Um, this is understood by a lot of communities. Adding police officers to any situation is about as useful as adding thirteen tons of toxic waste.
Or one rampaging circus elephant.
On the post: Arizona's $24-Million Prison Management Software Is Keeping People Locked Up Past The End Of Their Sentences
Less easy and quick fix
Maybe take seriously the notion of abolishing the entire fucking justice system.
There's no valid reason we have more inmates than China, and more per capita than any nation in the world.
Oh wait, maybe because we're addicted to the slave labor and the government contracts for private prisons?
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"Everyone"
Generalizing much? Make an absurd, extremist rant, and you may get seen as silly and extreme.
On the post: North Dakota's New Anti-230 Bill Would Let Nazis Sue You For Reporting Their Content To Twitter
"Thought Policewomyn"
You lost me before this moment, but it was here your rant vaulted into the absurd and you might as well be singing Kampflied der Nationalsozialisten
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Content moderation filters
Turns out we tried that. All the net-nanny software relied on the same database.
Not only could kids not go to kid-friendly guidance pages about sex and grown up stuff, but everything LGBT+ was blocked out, even if it had nothing to do with sex. Disney got blocked out sometimes. And then Anti-LGBT+ sites got through, even though they contained the same kind of hate speech that white supremacist and Islamist terror pages did. It turns out the database had a very American Protestant Christian bias.
Even the filters on our search engines are weird. I've mentioned before that I can't find an engine that gives me truly unfiltered hits, but first decides if I do or don't want porn, and gives me all porn or no porn accordingly.
On the post: North Dakota's New Anti-230 Bill Would Let Nazis Sue You For Reporting Their Content To Twitter
The Poland Bill
Do you know how the bill does partial restrictions? Say, making a Nazi visibile only to other bad actors?
On the post: North Dakota's New Anti-230 Bill Would Let Nazis Sue You For Reporting Their Content To Twitter
Computer literacy
The next best thing is for elected officials to hire tech advisors, the way we'd hope they'd hire advisors for any other situation that requires an expert (renewable power, India-Pakistani relations, climate change mitigation). However when it comes to computer and communications technology, our federal officials seem to pride themselves on their ignorance.
On the post: North Dakota's New Anti-230 Bill Would Let Nazis Sue You For Reporting Their Content To Twitter
Demagogy
Once a civilization decides that fear sells, and it's socially acceptable to use fear to manipulate the masses, then yes the ones with money and power to amplify their voices get to decide who everyone else is angry at.
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