Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 3 Oct 2018 @ 10:07am
Re: Re: Creative Incredulity
If you look at the comment form there is a box for URL. If you sign out and look at the comment form there is also a place for email and URL. I am not sure if that email gets posted or not, it appears that the URL becomes a link with your login name.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 3 Oct 2018 @ 7:43am
Confucius says: He who laughs most must be being tickled
"Censorship in China is no laughing matter."
But it is! At least if you don't live in China, or plan to travel there, or have any relatives who resided there, or plan to travel there.
One must certainly wonder what the Chinese government will do about Chinese history scholars who try to tell the truth, but don't have any connections in the country? Will they send agents to try and silence them? Will all books and scholarly papers that conflict with their version of history be collected and burned? Will they manage to track down every library not in China to attempt a worldwide reform? Or use political/trade pressure to achieve compliance?
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 3 Oct 2018 @ 7:27am
Not in a hurry, not a moron, but still...
Well I am certainly confused. I have never heard of either of them, so what's the problem?
Besides, my cat would most certainly object to my trying to stuff her into some piece of clothing. She doesn't even like the collars with bells I put on her (she has chewed them all off) to try and prevent stupid birds from sitting still while she stalks them.
I can only imagine what she would do to a pair of high heels let alone luxury sneakers...
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 2 Oct 2018 @ 1:26pm
Re: Re: Superbowl commercials
If Techdirt, for example, embeds a Twitter comment, and shows ads, how does Twitter get more money? Techdirt get money from the ads they show, but don't pay Twitter for the embed.
Now if they merely link to the Twitter feed and someone clicks on that link, they go to a Twitter page and then Twitter gets another 'ad' view whether that client looks at the ad or not. Seems like there is a better advantage to Twitter to make people link rather than embed. Oh, and there is no third (or would it be fourth?) party involved.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 1 Oct 2018 @ 7:03pm
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Well, not necessarily in this order, porn, politics and shopping. I heard something about social media, but I have no faith in that concept. There is also a rumor about trolling, but that's just a rumor.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 1 Oct 2018 @ 10:29am
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If they copy a bunch of unprotected elements, then there is no copyright violation. Only the protected portions have copyright protection. But, if those 'protected' elements were in fact copied from the public domain, they how did they gain copyright protection in the first place? Original arrangements?
Well, if all the songs use the same notes, but have different arrangements (an idiocy in and of itself, in my mind) then they should all have copyright protection, and there should be no infringement by copying in any of them
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 1 Oct 2018 @ 10:23am
Can you hear us now?
Vigorous hand waving is the way to go. Utter many 'but's' and explain that "what we meant to say was..."
They faked right, turned left, screwed the public, got tackled anyway and now expect the instant replay (that is broken) to clear up the issue.
Maybe they should not have let the industry players write the rules they eventually passed. Or maybe they should have had someone with some intelligence read them first, someone who did not wear the industry bought and paid for blinders.
Now we will see if the courts have any integrity left. I suspect that at some point some court is going to say someone with vested interests just don't have standing.
Anonymous Anonymous Coward (profile), 1 Oct 2018 @ 9:56am
Originality is an abstraction, often
I am sitting here wondering, and scratching my head, trying to figure out how someone could arrange 3 notes with originality. To me there is a presumption that we are talking about the same 3 notes. Make one louder? Make one last longer? These things make something original?
Next up, I think if they are going to listen to the music, it should be with the public domain portions silenced. Since the 9th Circuit is acknowledging that there is public domain present, those parts should not be allowed to influence jury members, who won't know which parts are or are not public domain.
And finally, they should include the J.S. Bach's Bouree In E Minor along with Henry Purcell's "Dido's Lament" (which predates even the Bach song), as well as Rogers and Hart's "Funny Valentine," Arthur Hamilton's "Cry Me A River" so that the full spectrum of who might have copied what might come into play. Maybe they should play a variety of arrangements of each of those, just to make things clearer. Then the rest of us will find out just how discerning those jurors might be. /s (at least for this part)
...that so many comments recently belong to a category know as abusive, trolling, or spam, and the respondents to those comments. These entities (I believe there are more than one, style tells us who the repeat offenders are, and the difference) continue to do so because he/they get responses. While those responses may excoriate those posts, they also satisfy a significant need of the poster. Recognition! If only we could get the many responsible members of this community respond to instead flag and ignore, he/she/they may eventually go away due to lack of satisfaction. Maybe even the irresponsible members of this community.
Sure he/she/they push buttons. That's what he/she/they does. He does so to spark ire. Responses insure that the intended ire spark was successful. Let your ire get sparked and deal with it with some primal screaming (at least until your neighbors complain), or something (don't drink/use drugs it doesn't help) but ignore this/these asshole(s).
The concept of feeding trolls is that they want recognition. Any response to he/she/it/them no matter what you say, no matter how reasonable, no matter how insightful, it constitutes recognition, and therefore feeds the ego of the asshole(s) who dirty up these pages.
PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLLS BY NOT RESPONDING TO THEM, FLAG AND IGNORE INSTEAD! Trying to educate him/her/them (which is not often but always ignored) satisfies their need for recognition. Don't do it, and chastise those that do.
Re: "Make all you want, our lawyers always need something to kill."
Actually, they could go further. If fans of CBS shows became aware of this incident, they could get their heads around just not watching any CBS shows on TV, on cable, in streaming. Alternatively they could just torrent them, then CBS wouldn't get any of the credos from any of the viewing rating agencies and the resultant loss of ad revenue. The fans don't lose, but CBS does. Seems like a fair turnabout (not the I am promoting 'pirating' in any way, I am suggesting a possible outcome).
Maybe we should be celebrating the stupid patent officer of the month. There should be categories for those that review patents and their supervisors and their managers and the executives that run the patent office. Those latter ones would be eligible many months in a row considering the impetus for the patent office to approve quantity rather than quality.
I would like to see the Executive branch's economic discussion for promoting quantity over quality. Is there any industry (from any reasonable study that is not enabled by some partisan group) other than legal that win?
It is also hard to see how the courts have not made a statement on Congresses interpretation of limited in the case of copyright either. That is of course, assuming that some case making the claim has worked its way up the judicial ladder. There would be some expense there, but having the courts tell Congress that limited is not life plus 75 years when the Constitution says:
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
and that dead people don't create, could do a lot for creativity, and the economy.
Secure your friendships by talking to them, face to face
I am so glad I never used any social media, including Facebook. I have friends, and don't need more (not that they don't crop up now and again), so using social media to expand my 'social' existence is not necessary. I do interact with people from all over the world, but I gained those connections through other means. And I interact with them through other means.
For others, it seems an imperative. So sad. Want to talk to friends and family, then talk to them. Want to make more friends, go out, be engaging, don't talk about politics, or religion or sex, but test for other mutual interests. Then if some connection arises, find ways to interact and get to know one another. Friendship comes over time. It is not like love at first sight. One party might be interested, the other not. Kismet might happens, but should not be assumed.
I am not so sure about using third parties to secure any account. That would mean investigating and trying to ensure (something not likely with any one organization let alone two) that things are actually secure.
There is mention that Facebook has a strong security team, but there is no mention of Facebook policy (in this article) that might prevent them from doing their jobs. When Two Factor ID is given to third parties it sure seems like policy is not about security, but about something else.
Isn't it likely that the cop's action of pulling her over was the proximate cause for the impeding of traffic? He should have given himself a ticket for that.
Kinda lends to the argument for having the government pay for both sides of prosecutions. Create a budget for any given trial and split it in half, with one half going to the prosecutors and the other half to the defendant. It would solve the problem of the have not's, but probably create others.
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Creative Incredulity
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Confucius says: He who laughs most must be being tickled
But it is! At least if you don't live in China, or plan to travel there, or have any relatives who resided there, or plan to travel there.
One must certainly wonder what the Chinese government will do about Chinese history scholars who try to tell the truth, but don't have any connections in the country? Will they send agents to try and silence them? Will all books and scholarly papers that conflict with their version of history be collected and burned? Will they manage to track down every library not in China to attempt a worldwide reform? Or use political/trade pressure to achieve compliance?
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Not in a hurry, not a moron, but still...
Besides, my cat would most certainly object to my trying to stuff her into some piece of clothing. She doesn't even like the collars with bells I put on her (she has chewed them all off) to try and prevent stupid birds from sitting still while she stalks them.
I can only imagine what she would do to a pair of high heels let alone luxury sneakers...
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Re: Re: Superbowl commercials
Now if they merely link to the Twitter feed and someone clicks on that link, they go to a Twitter page and then Twitter gets another 'ad' view whether that client looks at the ad or not. Seems like there is a better advantage to Twitter to make people link rather than embed. Oh, and there is no third (or would it be fourth?) party involved.
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Re: Title II subsidies
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New Government Morale Motto
Doubling down on your double down is more than double more fun.
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No one I know has ever said laws make sense, with respect to the laws we have rather than the laws we should have.
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Well, if all the songs use the same notes, but have different arrangements (an idiocy in and of itself, in my mind) then they should all have copyright protection, and there should be no infringement by copying in any of them
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Can you hear us now?
They faked right, turned left, screwed the public, got tackled anyway and now expect the instant replay (that is broken) to clear up the issue.
Maybe they should not have let the industry players write the rules they eventually passed. Or maybe they should have had someone with some intelligence read them first, someone who did not wear the industry bought and paid for blinders.
Now we will see if the courts have any integrity left. I suspect that at some point some court is going to say someone with vested interests just don't have standing.
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Originality is an abstraction, often
Next up, I think if they are going to listen to the music, it should be with the public domain portions silenced. Since the 9th Circuit is acknowledging that there is public domain present, those parts should not be allowed to influence jury members, who won't know which parts are or are not public domain.
And finally, they should include the J.S. Bach's Bouree In E Minor along with Henry Purcell's "Dido's Lament" (which predates even the Bach song), as well as Rogers and Hart's "Funny Valentine," Arthur Hamilton's "Cry Me A River" so that the full spectrum of who might have copied what might come into play. Maybe they should play a variety of arrangements of each of those, just to make things clearer. Then the rest of us will find out just how discerning those jurors might be. /s (at least for this part)
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How sad it is...
...that so many comments recently belong to a category know as abusive, trolling, or spam, and the respondents to those comments. These entities (I believe there are more than one, style tells us who the repeat offenders are, and the difference) continue to do so because he/they get responses. While those responses may excoriate those posts, they also satisfy a significant need of the poster. Recognition! If only we could get the many responsible members of this community respond to instead flag and ignore, he/she/they may eventually go away due to lack of satisfaction. Maybe even the irresponsible members of this community.
Sure he/she/they push buttons. That's what he/she/they does. He does so to spark ire. Responses insure that the intended ire spark was successful. Let your ire get sparked and deal with it with some primal screaming (at least until your neighbors complain), or something (don't drink/use drugs it doesn't help) but ignore this/these asshole(s).
The concept of feeding trolls is that they want recognition. Any response to he/she/it/them no matter what you say, no matter how reasonable, no matter how insightful, it constitutes recognition, and therefore feeds the ego of the asshole(s) who dirty up these pages.
PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLLS BY NOT RESPONDING TO THEM, FLAG AND IGNORE INSTEAD! Trying to educate him/her/them (which is not often but always ignored) satisfies their need for recognition. Don't do it, and chastise those that do.
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Re: "Make all you want, our lawyers always need something to kill."
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Acknowledging the wrong thing/persons
I would like to see the Executive branch's economic discussion for promoting quantity over quality. Is there any industry (from any reasonable study that is not enabled by some partisan group) other than legal that win?
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It is also hard to see how the courts have not made a statement on Congresses interpretation of limited in the case of copyright either. That is of course, assuming that some case making the claim has worked its way up the judicial ladder. There would be some expense there, but having the courts tell Congress that limited is not life plus 75 years when the Constitution says:
and that dead people don't create, could do a lot for creativity, and the economy.
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Secure your friendships by talking to them, face to face
I am so glad I never used any social media, including Facebook. I have friends, and don't need more (not that they don't crop up now and again), so using social media to expand my 'social' existence is not necessary. I do interact with people from all over the world, but I gained those connections through other means. And I interact with them through other means.
For others, it seems an imperative. So sad. Want to talk to friends and family, then talk to them. Want to make more friends, go out, be engaging, don't talk about politics, or religion or sex, but test for other mutual interests. Then if some connection arises, find ways to interact and get to know one another. Friendship comes over time. It is not like love at first sight. One party might be interested, the other not. Kismet might happens, but should not be assumed.
I am not so sure about using third parties to secure any account. That would mean investigating and trying to ensure (something not likely with any one organization let alone two) that things are actually secure.
There is mention that Facebook has a strong security team, but there is no mention of Facebook policy (in this article) that might prevent them from doing their jobs. When Two Factor ID is given to third parties it sure seems like policy is not about security, but about something else.
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