Unfortunately for Officer Bob, Rusty, the department's trusty drug sniffing dog (the one that can be counted upon [to] 'alert' whenever [its] handler taps his left foot) ...
I'm curious as to whether this phenomenon has ever shown up in court. It sounds a lot like urban legend, but there must be something in it ("where there's smoke, ..."). Have any police dog handlers been busted for training their dogs to alert on demand?
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... cops really are generally decent people...
Bullshit.
No, he is correct. However, it's apparently heavily dependent upon where you are and what you look like. I've never had anything but great interactions with cops all my life. They've always been protect and serve exemplars to me. However, I'm a male caucasian, and we don't have whole PDs around here intent on padding the office budget with whatever they can confiscate from innocent citizens.
There's lots of stories here that will chill you to the bone with respect to their interactions with minorities, however. Natives, blacks, and asians have essentially been outright murdered, and shady characters (prostitutes, drug dealers, ...) can wait for years while the bodies pile up before anything is done about it. Most caucasians never see that side of it.
He reconciles his morals with lots and lots of money.
You believe he has morals? How ... quaint. Somebody the other day called him a paid shill for "special interests." Oh yeah, that was me!
He did condemn WikiLeaks’ decision last week to publish a searchable list of the Sony materials, calling it “terribly wrong” and serving “no public purpose.”
Who gives Dodd the right to determine that? Chris, you're stupidly incorrect, and a paid shill. It does serve my interest, and I'll bet lots of other people's interests, all of whom you're now paid to ignore, or worse. Do you have any pride in yourself left?
Oh, but that wouldn't be profitable for politicians that support them in exchange for contributions, guaranteed C-level executive appointments after retirement ...
Have you noticed, politicos don't offer performance guarantees? Chris Dodd lambasted them for this a couple of years ago. The money continues to flow, so I guess they've decided to throw him a bone to keep it coming.
Poor Chris Dodd. I mean, he has no control over congresscritters. Why's this his fault? Boo hoo, weep, weep, weep.
Looks as though Comcast will have to dig deep into their pockets to throw a few lavish parties and shower gifts to the DOJ to get them to rule in their favour!
More like they didn't "dig deep into their pockets to throw a few lavish parties and shower gifts to the DOJ", so now they lose.
You think that who we voted for impacted whether or not those programs went into place?
The US (as well as many other countries, including my own in many ways) has been broken for a *long* time, and the usurpers should have been checked long ago! It got that way through citizens' apathy. The founders warned about this; even Churchill conceded that. Fix the system, and don't let it get out of control. It's our responsibility to keep that ravenous beast in line if we insist on using it.
And the ones who replace them will not be considerate to those outside who just watched it all happen.
If we're invited in to help (ie. Rwanda), sure, lets go. I support humanitarian efforts.
But, mount an invasion of the USSR to bring down the Soviets, or supply the mujaheddin with stingers to kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan? Fuck no. Cut all ties, don't trade with them, encourage dissidents and escapees, but not our fight! Caveat emptor.
Well said. I strongly agree. However, this is Britain, where the hoity-toity upper-classes can do no wrong. Stiff upper lip, pip pip, and how did that person get in here?
It still amazes me that the US loves Brit royalty, and Brits love US imperialism. That says a lot.
... might have some justification, just as the atom bombs were dropped to avoid an all out invasion of Japan, and the firebombing of all the major cities of Japan as we did Tokyo.
No, no, a thousand times no. Civilians ("women, children, and the elderly") are not valid targets. They're not even armed, and children don't even know what's going on. It's evil! Hitler and Churchill both knew and worried about this before the war, yet they let it happen anyway. It was a war crime. My own dad was made complicit in that crime.
There may have been munitions factories in those cities, but you don't shoot if you might hit an innocent (!!!) bystander. It's evil to even contemplate. War between combattants is ugly enough.
Or... a regime with a mass-surveillance program, a failed justice system and an extrajudicial detainment program.
Again, no. That's their problem to solve, not anyone else's. We learn by our mistakes if we have to. You don't want to end up living in Nazi Germany? Think before you vote assholes like that into power. Tough love.
The Syrians and Iraqis stockpiled them. The US probably still has some stockpiled too. I wouldn't put it past the Israelis or Russians or North Koreans. I expect ISI[SL] would love to get their hands on some.
I may be a bit more jaded than you. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it. I admire your insistence on sticking with the high road, but war is war. Ethics don't really apply (as long as we're talking about warrior on warrior; non-combattant civilians should be considered sacrosanct). The Geneva Conventions, to me, were little more than a PR effort to make war more palatable to the masses looking on. I'm reminded of that old ST:TOS episode that had people walking into destructionators based on calculated losses. Kirk was absolutely correct in destroying it. Don't gloss over the ugliness of war. No one wins in war.
I see nothing terribly immoral about biological or chemical weapons (other than the fact that they can't really be controlled and their effects last far beyond the end of the war). If they make war too ugly, great! Maybe that would stop the next one from happening.
[I wonder what Mike must think when "Sony execs freak out" devolves into ethical discussions like this. Thanks Mike.]
No. Weapons are merely specialized tools. They don't care whether they used for offence or defence. What's done with them by those who deploy them is where ethics comes in.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki may have been war crimes, just as Nazi and Allied bombing of civilians in London or Dresden were war crimes. But theatre nukes used on a battlefield? What could possibly be wrong with that?
... if that video never existed, would the riots have still happened when the officers were found not guilty?
I was likely not watching all that closely at the time (too busy working), but my hazy understanding of it was the trigger was a not guilty verdict given to all white cops by an affluent all white jury (the trial was moved to that jurisdiction "to be fair"). That touched off a powder keg created over years of Chief Gates' "tough on crime", "take no prisoners", egregiously racist police dept.'s actions.
However, all I know of it came from mass media six o'clock news reportage, for whatever it's worth.
"There is absolute consensus on the problem," he said, and that there is not clear authority, and that the solution is for Congress to supply that clear authority."
Of course, this burning desire to punt the issue to Congress is fueled by the knowledge that, slathered in lobbying cash, Congress either will pass bad laws that benefit USTelecom's members, or do nothing at all after being intentionally bogged down in obnoxiously-simplistic partisan discourse over an issue that isn't really partisan. Neutrality opponents Senator John Thune and Representative Fred Upton have been putting on an adorable pony show claiming they want a "bipartisan" solution to net neutrality, when all they're really trying to do is codify a law that will keep wolves in charge of policing the hen house.
First, do educated, respected people really get away with saying !@#$ like that this century? Where in hell does he come up with "absolute consensus" in describing this issue? That is so patently absurd, I wonder if he's been locked in a dungeon with no news of what's going on in the world and told by his jailers to "Shut up and write what we tell you to write!"
Secondly, is there no better proof of the fact that the Democrats and Republicans are merely two wings of the Always Governing Party than two corrupt and bribed politicians from the two parties combining forces to shovel this !@#$ for their mutual masters?
Karl, you do great work and it's always a joy to read! I'm glad you enjoy stirring entrails like this. I'd never be able to hold anything down if I tried it.
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I'm curious as to whether this phenomenon has ever shown up in court. It sounds a lot like urban legend, but there must be something in it ("where there's smoke, ..."). Have any police dog handlers been busted for training their dogs to alert on demand?
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No, he is correct. However, it's apparently heavily dependent upon where you are and what you look like. I've never had anything but great interactions with cops all my life. They've always been protect and serve exemplars to me. However, I'm a male caucasian, and we don't have whole PDs around here intent on padding the office budget with whatever they can confiscate from innocent citizens.
There's lots of stories here that will chill you to the bone with respect to their interactions with minorities, however. Natives, blacks, and asians have essentially been outright murdered, and shady characters (prostitutes, drug dealers, ...) can wait for years while the bodies pile up before anything is done about it. Most caucasians never see that side of it.
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-- Herman.
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You believe he has morals? How ... quaint. Somebody the other day called him a paid shill for "special interests." Oh yeah, that was me!
Who gives Dodd the right to determine that? Chris, you're stupidly incorrect, and a paid shill. It does serve my interest, and I'll bet lots of other people's interests, all of whom you're now paid to ignore, or worse. Do you have any pride in yourself left?
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Have you noticed, politicos don't offer performance guarantees? Chris Dodd lambasted them for this a couple of years ago. The money continues to flow, so I guess they've decided to throw him a bone to keep it coming.
Poor Chris Dodd. I mean, he has no control over congresscritters. Why's this his fault? Boo hoo, weep, weep, weep.
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More like they didn't "dig deep into their pockets to throw a few lavish parties and shower gifts to the DOJ", so now they lose.
Yeah, I'm cynical. Sue me.
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The US (as well as many other countries, including my own in many ways) has been broken for a *long* time, and the usurpers should have been checked long ago! It got that way through citizens' apathy. The founders warned about this; even Churchill conceded that. Fix the system, and don't let it get out of control. It's our responsibility to keep that ravenous beast in line if we insist on using it.
If we're invited in to help (ie. Rwanda), sure, lets go. I support humanitarian efforts.
But, mount an invasion of the USSR to bring down the Soviets, or supply the mujaheddin with stingers to kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan? Fuck no. Cut all ties, don't trade with them, encourage dissidents and escapees, but not our fight! Caveat emptor.
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It still amazes me that the US loves Brit royalty, and Brits love US imperialism. That says a lot.
No, I'm not a Frenchie, btw.
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Re: The immorality of weapons.
No, no, a thousand times no. Civilians ("women, children, and the elderly") are not valid targets. They're not even armed, and children don't even know what's going on. It's evil! Hitler and Churchill both knew and worried about this before the war, yet they let it happen anyway. It was a war crime. My own dad was made complicit in that crime.
There may have been munitions factories in those cities, but you don't shoot if you might hit an innocent (!!!) bystander. It's evil to even contemplate. War between combattants is ugly enough.
Again, no. That's their problem to solve, not anyone else's. We learn by our mistakes if we have to. You don't want to end up living in Nazi Germany? Think before you vote assholes like that into power. Tough love.
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I see nothing terribly immoral about biological or chemical weapons (other than the fact that they can't really be controlled and their effects last far beyond the end of the war). If they make war too ugly, great! Maybe that would stop the next one from happening.
[I wonder what Mike must think when "Sony execs freak out" devolves into ethical discussions like this. Thanks Mike.]
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki may have been war crimes, just as Nazi and Allied bombing of civilians in London or Dresden were war crimes. But theatre nukes used on a battlefield? What could possibly be wrong with that?
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I was likely not watching all that closely at the time (too busy working), but my hazy understanding of it was the trigger was a not guilty verdict given to all white cops by an affluent all white jury (the trial was moved to that jurisdiction "to be fair"). That touched off a powder keg created over years of Chief Gates' "tough on crime", "take no prisoners", egregiously racist police dept.'s actions.
However, all I know of it came from mass media six o'clock news reportage, for whatever it's worth.
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Oh come on! He's just a fan creating a derivative work on their efforts. They should sue him!
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Holy !@#$ on a stick, Batman!
First, do educated, respected people really get away with saying !@#$ like that this century? Where in hell does he come up with "absolute consensus" in describing this issue? That is so patently absurd, I wonder if he's been locked in a dungeon with no news of what's going on in the world and told by his jailers to "Shut up and write what we tell you to write!"
Secondly, is there no better proof of the fact that the Democrats and Republicans are merely two wings of the Always Governing Party than two corrupt and bribed politicians from the two parties combining forces to shovel this !@#$ for their mutual masters?
Karl, you do great work and it's always a joy to read! I'm glad you enjoy stirring entrails like this. I'd never be able to hold anything down if I tried it.
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