Apparently, that's the basis for modern civil forfeitures.
It seems to me (and I could be wrong) that banes were used where there really wasn't a responsible party (ie: horse bolts from a loud noise and runs someone over with the cart) as a way to compensate the victim's family. It looks like practice transitioned into deodands because the King (just like any government) wanted a piece of that action.
How many times must this be explained to you? Maybe if spent as much time reading responses to the crap you spew as you do trying manufacture a "gotcha" moment against Techdirt, you might actually learn something.
Section 230 IS NOT an exception to prior law. As a matter of fact, it's inline with old English common law that you love to espouse so much. We didn't hold the blacksmith responsible when a sword he made was used to kill, we held the person who wielded the sword responsible. We didn't hold the owner of building responsible when someone wrote disparaging remarks about the king on it, we held the person who wrote the remarks responsible.
Why is placing blame where blame belongs such a hard concept for you to grasp? Is it simple jealousy? Are you angry that others where able to profit on the internet by giving people what they wanted while you are reduced to being just another anonymous commenter on someone else's website?
Personally, I think the difference of opinion on gun control between Europe and the US stems from our different heritages more than anything else. The wildernesses of Europe were conquered with swords. The wildernesses of America were conquered with guns.
I'm guessing that government restrictions on private ownership of swords would be met with greater resistance in Europe than it would in America.
Oh come on. This is just another example of someone trying to hide behind the First Amendment.
You do know that that is a feature, not a bug, right?
The First Amendment (and all of the Bill of Rights) was specifically designed to shield individual persons from tyrannical actions of the US government.
Pests like Techdirt simply gin up outrage for the sake of traffic and only serve to delay progress.
Using a word like "pests" to describe those who are striving to shed light on fraudulent behavior, cronyism & possibly illegal actions is very telling, Richard.
It says a whole lot about your mentality and gives us all a pretty good indication of where your paycheck comes from.
How would you combat a company like Comcast letting NBC.com stream video at top speeds to their end users, but slowing down streams from ABC Go, CBS All Access, Netflix or YouTube just because they are competitors? What solutions to this very real problem are you offering up if net neutrality isn't the way to go in this day and age where the large ISPs are buying up the content producers?
Re: Re: Re: "we've discussed the potential benefits" But NEVER ANY ACTUAL!
Copyright law was deisgned to allow publishers not to have to make their own contracts protecting their work. Without it there is no incentive to produce.
Bullshit! Copyright is relativity new in the course of human history (300 years or so). Are you saying there was no incentive to create anything in all the human history before that?
What about creative industries where there is no copyright? Like the fashion or culinary industries? Is there no incentive to produce there?
Re: Re: Re: "we've discussed the potential benefits" But NEVER ANY ACTUAL!
I don't see Techdirt allowing me to republish their site on my own.
Then you are not looking very hard. Techdirt has never had a problem with people republishing their articles and consider their content to be public domain. There were even a few sites who republished Techdirt in toto over the years. They quietly fell to the wayside when their users realized that they were not the originals and that they lacked the community that has developed around Techdirt.
CDA exempts "internet" corporations from liabilities of Publishing that still apply if on paper.
No it does not. The creator of the content is held responsible, like always.
I think what trips you up about this is that you consider internet platforms that provide user content the same as traditional publishers, like newspapers. In reality they are more like Zerox machines, making copies available of someone else's content. We don't hold Zerox liable when someone makes a copy of some text that defames someone, do we?
It's actually been proved over and over that Facebook and Youtube DO have a bias against conservatives. Do some research.
I did some research. What I found was a bunch conservatives whining like crybabies that YouTube was censoring their views.
I also found a couple of articles from Vice & NY Times that claim the right dominates on YouTube because it's much easier to ignore counter arguments then on places like Twitter or Facebook.
PS: Just so you know - I identify with NEITHER party and cast my votes based on issues I care about and my own critical thinking.
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At the very least, it's nice to know that you actually read one of my rebuttals, Blue.
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I don't believe that is how that works - things don't lose their "newsworthiness" just because X amount of time has passed.
But, that is a moot point now anyways: Universal's decision to issue a DMCA on it has made it newsworthy all over again.
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Re: HA, HA.
2017 called. They want your comment back.
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Re: Correction
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BESURETODRINKYOUROVALTINE
Ovaltine? A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch!
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Wait a minute, Blue. That would be an anomaly you just highlighted.
I thought you hated when anomalies were highlighted. You are certainly very vocal about it when we are discussing someone abusing copyright laws.
Your consistent lack of consistency amazes me.
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Re: Deodand
Interesting stuff.
Apparently, that's the basis for modern civil forfeitures.
It seems to me (and I could be wrong) that banes were used where there really wasn't a responsible party (ie: horse bolts from a loud noise and runs someone over with the cart) as a way to compensate the victim's family. It looks like practice transitioned into deodands because the King (just like any government) wanted a piece of that action.
On the post: Ending The Memes: EU Copyright Directive Is No Laughing Matter
How many times must this be explained to you? Maybe if spent as much time reading responses to the crap you spew as you do trying manufacture a "gotcha" moment against Techdirt, you might actually learn something.
Section 230 IS NOT an exception to prior law. As a matter of fact, it's inline with old English common law that you love to espouse so much. We didn't hold the blacksmith responsible when a sword he made was used to kill, we held the person who wielded the sword responsible. We didn't hold the owner of building responsible when someone wrote disparaging remarks about the king on it, we held the person who wrote the remarks responsible.
Why is placing blame where blame belongs such a hard concept for you to grasp? Is it simple jealousy? Are you angry that others where able to profit on the internet by giving people what they wanted while you are reduced to being just another anonymous commenter on someone else's website?
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Personally, I think the difference of opinion on gun control between Europe and the US stems from our different heritages more than anything else. The wildernesses of Europe were conquered with swords. The wildernesses of America were conquered with guns.
I'm guessing that government restrictions on private ownership of swords would be met with greater resistance in Europe than it would in America.
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Re:
You do know that that is a feature, not a bug, right?
The First Amendment (and all of the Bill of Rights) was specifically designed to shield individual persons from tyrannical actions of the US government.
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Re: Liberal hysteria
Using a word like "pests" to describe those who are striving to shed light on fraudulent behavior, cronyism & possibly illegal actions is very telling, Richard.
It says a whole lot about your mentality and gives us all a pretty good indication of where your paycheck comes from.
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Honest question here, Richard.
How would you combat a company like Comcast letting NBC.com stream video at top speeds to their end users, but slowing down streams from ABC Go, CBS All Access, Netflix or YouTube just because they are competitors? What solutions to this very real problem are you offering up if net neutrality isn't the way to go in this day and age where the large ISPs are buying up the content producers?
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Re: Re: Re: "we've discussed the potential benefits" But NEVER ANY ACTUAL!
Bullshit! Copyright is relativity new in the course of human history (300 years or so). Are you saying there was no incentive to create anything in all the human history before that?
What about creative industries where there is no copyright? Like the fashion or culinary industries? Is there no incentive to produce there?
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Re: Re: Re: "we've discussed the potential benefits" But NEVER ANY ACTUAL!
Then you are not looking very hard. Techdirt has never had a problem with people republishing their articles and consider their content to be public domain. There were even a few sites who republished Techdirt in toto over the years. They quietly fell to the wayside when their users realized that they were not the originals and that they lacked the community that has developed around Techdirt.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110828/22065915716/you-can-copy-our-articles-all-you-w ant-please-dont-claim-copyright-belongs-to-you.shtml
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No it does not. The creator of the content is held responsible, like always.
I think what trips you up about this is that you consider internet platforms that provide user content the same as traditional publishers, like newspapers. In reality they are more like Zerox machines, making copies available of someone else's content. We don't hold Zerox liable when someone makes a copy of some text that defames someone, do we?
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Lol. Signed out to look a the password recovery prompts.
The above comment is mine.
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Re: Re: Re: The USPTO has held that StreamScale patent claims are fully
Umm, no it's not.
https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-spring-2014/r ethinking-hyperlinking
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In the United States, they came first for the personals sections, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use the personals sections....
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Re: I've said all along that sites have some minimal duty to police.
Megaupload did honor DMCA notices - even though they had no responsibility to do so since they were not a US company.
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Re: More Liberal Techdirt Bias
I did some research. What I found was a bunch conservatives whining like crybabies that YouTube was censoring their views.
I also found a couple of articles from Vice & NY Times that claim the right dominates on YouTube because it's much easier to ignore counter arguments then on places like Twitter or Facebook.
PS: Just so you know - I identify with NEITHER party and cast my votes based on issues I care about and my own critical thinking.
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