I've been doing exactly this to right-wing tools on the Internet since about 2004.
The trick is to not be so obnoxious that you get summarily banned right off the bat. Of course, the really doctrinaire sites like RedState or FreeRepublic will automatically ban you just for not being sufficiently in agreement with absolutely everything they say, but many right-wing sites like National Review or Fox Nation are not so quick to pull the banishment trigger.
However, I'm betting that all things considered, the terrorists are probably easier to engage than the right wing. They are probably also more likely to have a sense of humor.
See, you don't get to decide on whether something is parody by whether or not you agree with it.
And if parody doesn't "hurt" it's not doing it's job.
I'm not sure who or what a "Lord Finesse" is, but I'm pretty sure he's a big douchenozzle whose name and impact will pass pretty quickly. Going after someone's living just because he made fun of you is pretty much the OED definition of "big douche". Let's not pretend this has anything to do with copyright, really. How many mixtapes are out there with "Lord Finesse" beats on it? And doesn't he realize that the sideways baseball hat thing went out with the original "Step Up" movie?
Weird, when I was a kid, it was always a competition between countries, esp. U.S. vs. Soviet Union.
I'm OK with competitions between countries done via sport. I'm not OK with competition between corporations done via exploitation of young people. Those stars that people will be tuning in to see aren't getting a penny, but the corporations will be raking in the dough.
The Olympics has become corporatized human trafficking.
The Olympics has become a horrible twisted version of what it was meant to be. It's time to put an end to this ridiculous quadrennial idiocy.
I remember loving the Olympics as a kid. Now, I refuse to watch a single event because of the way it's been turned into a nightmare pro-corporate festival of consumption.
In fact, if I see a company sponsoring the Olympics in any way, I go out of my way to NOT buy anything from them. There are enough companies out there to get my business. If all I can do to show my disgust what what the Olympics has become is not buy something, then that's exactly what I will do.
If the Olympics is really a "movement", then it's the kind of movement I had after my oatmeal and coffee this morning.
That's a very good point about ALEC. They're behind most of the worst legislation working being pushed by Republican legislatures and governors nationwide. They see a small window of opportunity where they can get the bulk of their agenda through before states start throwing the bums out, as Wisconsin is trying to do right now.
These "Stand Your Ground and Kill a Black Guy" laws are just the most well-known of ALEC's ugly agenda. They're also behind the "Evolution is Just a Theory" changes to school curricula and "Global Warming isn't Real" school board changes. ALEC will even support extreme right-wing school board candidates, creating the first instances of SuperPAC involvement in local school board elections.
These are really, really bad guys. They do not have our best interests at heart. It's good news that the Trayvon Martin case brought them out into the sunlight and has gotten a lot of very big corporations to back out of supporting ALEC.
"The senators who signed the letter are Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), David Vitter (R-La.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Jim Risch (R-Idaho), John Kerry (D-Mass.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Michael Enzi (R-Wyo.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Scott Brown (R-Mass.), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Kay Hagan (D-N.C.)."
It's funny that these politicians are suddenly in a race to see who can run away from SOPA the fastest.
It's proof that when you get organized and get loud you can change things.
I have noticed however, that there is a nascent effort on Fox News to try to paint opponents of SOPA and PIPA as being mostly dirty hippies like the Occupy Movement.
They're trying to spin it like "Oh the bill was no good because it was big government, but we have to find a way to do everything the bill does but not until a Republican takes over so we can get all the Hollywood contributions."
And then there's marketing, which is so much more than just a release window. Remember that you've been holed up in your home studio for months and people have forgotten about you. It's not like she's U2 and every move she makes generates headlines. She has to get people's attention.
Artwork has to be created. Hard to market music without artwork and photos. Ads need to be created and purchased in magazines and on websites. Then there's planning and arranging the tour, which usually coincides with the release because that maximizes your marketing dollar by offering music to buy and concert tickets in the same ads.
You have just described very well the reason I do not purchase any new music from major record labels, and do my best never to give my money to anyone but the artist directly.
The whole music business sickens me. The interesting thing is that my life is filled with great music by great artists and lots of new music. Just nothing from the corporate music biz. I don't miss it one little bit.
I want to know what this guy did. How is he going to suffer from the Streisand Effect if helpful bloggers won't link to the "inappropriate relationship" stuff.
Full disclosure: I think Finland is one of the most beautiful places in the world. I've been there summer and winter and it is a wonderful place.
Anyway, that's nothing. Here in the US we have major cities involved in an argument over who is going to be most known for brutalizing people trying to exercise their First Amendment rights.
If he's such a nobody with no effect why are the shills out trolling in such force?
Agreed. The folks at "New Media Strategies" are working overtime tonight.
You know, I actually met one of these people. He's working for the modern, proactive equivalent of the old-fashioned clipping services. He's got a list of clients and he googles for mentions and then wades into whichever comments section and starts shilling. He's paid barely better than a phone bank worker. It's pretty interesting the group of clients he's paid to astroturf for. I'm trying to put him together with a real journalist to see if the story can get out. Most people who work at these places are too afraid to talk, but he's about had it with the business so he might be ready to do a little whistleblowing. While there's nothing illegal about lying in comments sections, the public might be interested in hearing about the way their forums are being corrupted by what has become a big business.
You probably shouldn't make assumptions. I have a degree in labor relationsAh, but it's all in the context. If you use your degree in Labor Relations to protect corporations, your understanding of union history could well be suspect, but if you use the degree to protect workers you might have something worth hearing.
If you don't use your degree at all except to post comments on blogs, then you've probably been screwed like everyone else.
That's kind of stupid. In this case, without the playa, there is no game.
J.R. Salamanca (if that really is his name) is a turd. His book is a turd and whoever has the two used copies of his book for sale on Amazon should immediately pull them and throw them in the trash for this douche move by Ms Salamanca.
I resent the notion those of us who would eliminate copyrights and patents are part of some sort of "free culture movement". I consider myself "pro-culture" not "pro free-culture". I'm not trying to promote free culture, I'm trying to promote ALL culture, and the best way to do that is to eliminate the anti-cultural "intellectual property" machinery.
And yes, I make my living as a creative person, from the fruits of my own creative work. Creative people are innovators, and we don't need the government's protection in the form of "intellectual property" laws.
"Sure, the DMCA takedown procedures are heavily biased in favor of the (alleged) copyright holders"
No, the procedures are heavily biased in favor of who's got the most expensive lawyers.
If the prankster who sent in the DMCA claims to get the Bieber and Gaga videos taken down had ACTUALLY BEEN THE COPYRIGHT OWNER, I don't think the outcome would have been one bit different unless he had as many lawyers and as much power as the record label.
I like how the guy from Ubisoft keeps pointing to the fact that "piracy is at unbelievable rates". Now, he's not saying that it has hurt profits, or that they aren't making money because of piracy or that games can no longer be made profitably. It's just that piracy is "at unbelievable rates".
Unless he can show that his profits have been hurt by piracy, I don't understand why he should be taken seriously at all.
It might just be that a lot of the games they have released are a sucky value for the consumer. That's doing more damage to their business than piracy.
Is it even possible to be less relevant than Don Henley? Unless you happen to be one of the under age girls he's doing, I really don't think anyone cares what Don Henley thinks of anything.
By taking away my ability to watch shows now, while my friends are watching them, they are turning a class of people, those who cannot afford or refuse to pay for cable/satellite, into social pariahs.
Don't you think "social pariah" is a little bit strong? I mean, we're talking about television shows here. If you believe not being able to talk about a television show with your friends somehow degrades your experience of friendship, then you're TV should be taken away from you until you return to sanity.
I mean this sincerely. And who even talks about broadcast TV shows anymore except maybe if The Sopranos or Sons of Anarchy come back.
And really, if it's that important, there are torrents of your favorite TV show available a few hours after they're broadcast. If you were so motivated, you could certainly download and watch a TV show before seeing your friends the next day.
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Nothing new
The trick is to not be so obnoxious that you get summarily banned right off the bat. Of course, the really doctrinaire sites like RedState or FreeRepublic will automatically ban you just for not being sufficiently in agreement with absolutely everything they say, but many right-wing sites like National Review or Fox Nation are not so quick to pull the banishment trigger.
However, I'm betting that all things considered, the terrorists are probably easier to engage than the right wing. They are probably also more likely to have a sense of humor.
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Re: Re: Re: Campbell v Acuff Rose Music
And if parody doesn't "hurt" it's not doing it's job.
I'm not sure who or what a "Lord Finesse" is, but I'm pretty sure he's a big douchenozzle whose name and impact will pass pretty quickly. Going after someone's living just because he made fun of you is pretty much the OED definition of "big douche". Let's not pretend this has anything to do with copyright, really. How many mixtapes are out there with "Lord Finesse" beats on it? And doesn't he realize that the sideways baseball hat thing went out with the original "Step Up" movie?
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I'm OK with competitions between countries done via sport. I'm not OK with competition between corporations done via exploitation of young people. Those stars that people will be tuning in to see aren't getting a penny, but the corporations will be raking in the dough.
The Olympics has become corporatized human trafficking.
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Time to stop this nonsense
I remember loving the Olympics as a kid. Now, I refuse to watch a single event because of the way it's been turned into a nightmare pro-corporate festival of consumption.
In fact, if I see a company sponsoring the Olympics in any way, I go out of my way to NOT buy anything from them. There are enough companies out there to get my business. If all I can do to show my disgust what what the Olympics has become is not buy something, then that's exactly what I will do.
If the Olympics is really a "movement", then it's the kind of movement I had after my oatmeal and coffee this morning.
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Re: More to the story...
These "Stand Your Ground and Kill a Black Guy" laws are just the most well-known of ALEC's ugly agenda. They're also behind the "Evolution is Just a Theory" changes to school curricula and "Global Warming isn't Real" school board changes. ALEC will even support extreme right-wing school board candidates, creating the first instances of SuperPAC involvement in local school board elections.
These are really, really bad guys. They do not have our best interests at heart. It's good news that the Trayvon Martin case brought them out into the sunlight and has gotten a lot of very big corporations to back out of supporting ALEC.
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The Sh$t List
Who's with me? I don't see one name I would miss.
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Pay no mind
The next step would be to purposely violate it whenever possible.
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abandon ship!
It's proof that when you get organized and get loud you can change things.
I have noticed however, that there is a nascent effort on Fox News to try to paint opponents of SOPA and PIPA as being mostly dirty hippies like the Occupy Movement.
They're trying to spin it like "Oh the bill was no good because it was big government, but we have to find a way to do everything the bill does but not until a Republican takes over so we can get all the Hollywood contributions."
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The whole music business sickens me. The interesting thing is that my life is filled with great music by great artists and lots of new music. Just nothing from the corporate music biz. I don't miss it one little bit.
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You missed something
I want to know what this guy did. How is he going to suffer from the Streisand Effect if helpful bloggers won't link to the "inappropriate relationship" stuff.
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My money is on Finland
Full disclosure: I think Finland is one of the most beautiful places in the world. I've been there summer and winter and it is a wonderful place.
Anyway, that's nothing. Here in the US we have major cities involved in an argument over who is going to be most known for brutalizing people trying to exercise their First Amendment rights.
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Agreed. The folks at "New Media Strategies" are working overtime tonight.
You know, I actually met one of these people. He's working for the modern, proactive equivalent of the old-fashioned clipping services. He's got a list of clients and he googles for mentions and then wades into whichever comments section and starts shilling. He's paid barely better than a phone bank worker. It's pretty interesting the group of clients he's paid to astroturf for. I'm trying to put him together with a real journalist to see if the story can get out. Most people who work at these places are too afraid to talk, but he's about had it with the business so he might be ready to do a little whistleblowing. While there's nothing illegal about lying in comments sections, the public might be interested in hearing about the way their forums are being corrupted by what has become a big business.
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Re: Re:
If you don't use your degree at all except to post comments on blogs, then you've probably been screwed like everyone else.
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home remedy
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J.R. Salamanca (if that really is his name) is a turd. His book is a turd and whoever has the two used copies of his book for sale on Amazon should immediately pull them and throw them in the trash for this douche move by Ms Salamanca.
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Re: Get Real
And yes, I make my living as a creative person, from the fruits of my own creative work. Creative people are innovators, and we don't need the government's protection in the form of "intellectual property" laws.
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Re: The real precedent
No, the procedures are heavily biased in favor of who's got the most expensive lawyers.
If the prankster who sent in the DMCA claims to get the Bieber and Gaga videos taken down had ACTUALLY BEEN THE COPYRIGHT OWNER, I don't think the outcome would have been one bit different unless he had as many lawyers and as much power as the record label.
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misdirection
Unless he can show that his profits have been hurt by piracy, I don't understand why he should be taken seriously at all.
It might just be that a lot of the games they have released are a sucky value for the consumer. That's doing more damage to their business than piracy.
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So?
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I mean this sincerely. And who even talks about broadcast TV shows anymore except maybe if The Sopranos or Sons of Anarchy come back.
And really, if it's that important, there are torrents of your favorite TV show available a few hours after they're broadcast. If you were so motivated, you could certainly download and watch a TV show before seeing your friends the next day.
For your own good, don't make TV so important.
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