"Ronald, Mike's point is that while inventING is scarce, inventIONS are not."
Isn't the essence of this argument about those who do no InventING trying to lower the compensation of those who do?
It is an attempt to change the terms of the contract between inventors and society to the detriment of the inventors.
Now, how about your boss comes in next week and says, Andrew, I only want to pay you twenty percent and by the way it is retroactive and not negotiable.
I think you might take exception to this.
Ronald J. Riley,
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
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"Putting property rights on non-scarce items doesn't make it more efficient, it makes it less efficient."
Mike Masnick has admitted that inventions are scarce but argues that once something is invented that there should be minimal restrictions on use of the invention. The essence of his argument is that those using an invention, who often characterize their use as innovation, interests should have priority over those who actually produce the invention.
What he fails to understand is that the patent system is meant to maximize inventions so as to facilitate (for a price) society's advancement.
Mike's reasoning on this topic is fatally flawed.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
"Of course, that still ignores the free speech aspect of being able to repeat what you've been told"
I am a big believer in free speech and sex.
Actually, we all learned in sixties and seventies that sex was not free and we spent the rest of our lives dealing with that.
The same is true of speech. It is not free, for we must constantly fight to keep our rights.
But free speech has limits. In this case if someone has an invention you exercise your free speech right to encourage infringement then you could be used for inducing said infringement.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
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"Why would we cut off the hands of a significant portion of our population just to protect the failing business models of entrenched companies who refuse to adapt to market conditions?"
Did we tolerate a lawless west? Should we have tolerated the rise of mobsters?
Lots of people feel quite justified in lying, cheating, stealing when it suits them. A somewhat smaller number are quite capable of rape, maiming and killing.
Most of these people are kept in line by rule of law and knowing that they will be punished if they break the law.
Groups of people are quite capable of rationalizing doing things which many would not do in a one on one situation. This happens with all groups, corporate, nonprofit, government and church. How many clergy administer one on one therapy to their flock or collectively cover for pedophiles in their ranks?
The software community suffers from this problem.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
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Just think how much money inventors of a functional replicator will make. That would be a great place to charge a third of the savings in royalties.
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"They don't seem to talk about or consider Intellectual Property Taxes" All businesses recover their taxes from their customers. What that means is that a big part of what you pay for intellectual property is already taxes which are passed on to you. But if you want to have the government collect more taxes and have those passed on by all means lets do so:)
Ronald J. Riley,
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
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Washington, DC
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My inventions were framed as hardware because there was not much case law on software patents at the time I was filing.
And the fact that inventions can often be implemented either as hardware or software is the reason that software should be patentable and that the law of the land is that software is in fact patentable.
Stealing others property is anti-social and all the rationalizing in the world does not change that fact.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
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Washington, DC
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"Who needs Amazon? Patents go against their very nature as a start-up"
Inventors also form start-up companies and they enjoy higher profit margins, faster growth and pay better wages. In addition, their ability to exclude others ensures higher profits.
Of course, when an invention creates higher profits it is inevitable that others will try to profit on the pioneer's work.
That is the essence of the argument between those who invent and those who want to unjustly profit from someone elses invention. Those who invent and those who combine others work and call themselves innovators.
Another aspect of piracy of inventions is that when transnational companies do so they ship both the invention and prosperity those inventions represent to places like India.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
Open source ends up being similar to a pyramid scheme. Many work for nothing while a few reap big rewards.
Ronald J. Riley,
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President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
"Thing is, patent lawyers are paid by the hour. So obfuscating the entire process of innovation for profit is in his best interest."
I am not a lawyer. I am an entrepreneur-engineer-inventor. I do manufacture my inventions.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
Inventors who have lost money to this company should contact the FTC www.FTC.gov. Inventors are entitled to a refund and should not accept anything less then the full amount. See the FTC consent agreement and be sure to sent copies of complaints to Help@InvEd.org
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
Inventors who have lost money to this company should contact the FTC www.FTC.gov. Inventors are entitled to a refund and should not accept anything less then the full amount. See the FTC consent agreement and be sure to sent copies of complaints to Help@InvEd.org
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
Inventors who have lost money to this company should contact the FTC www.FTC.gov. Inventors are entitled to a refund and should not accept anything less then the full amount. See the FTC consent agreement and be sure to sent copies of complaints to Help@InvEd.org
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
One of the organizations I founded is the leader in fighting invention promotion fraud. See www.InventorEd.org/caution.
We have a team of volunteers who systematically gather data on companies who charge aspiring inventors large amounts of money (typ. $10 to $50 thousand, often get them patents which are worthless, and then lead them along for years with promises of making a fortune. We have been doing this for over a decade.
There are powers in numbers and by bringing people who have been defrauded together we are able to get law enforcement to go after these companies. When they attack us or any of our members we give the company quality time, much more attention.
This has led to large fines and criminal investigations.
It would be an understatement to say that these promoters are totally devoid of ethics.
This operation is funded with donations and it is all volunteer. No one is paid, including me.
They like to make these types of claims in the hope that they can discredit both our organizations and our key people.
What is funny about this is the more they attack us the more generous donors become because they know from personal experience who the crooks are.
Sometimes the best measure of a person's social worth is who doesn't like them. The fact that these frauds make these kinds of claims is an indication that our efforts have been devastatingly effective.
Readers who are interested in pursuing an invention should stay away from any company advertising on TV and when your patent is published should be leery of the solicitations which will occur.
We have a number of discussion groups available for aspiring inventors. These groups are not public and we do screen people before allowing them to join. Those who are interested can read www.InventorEd.org/novice/ and then request to join the discussion group. We also have groups for professional inventors, they are by invitation only.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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One of the organizations I founded is the leader in fighting invention promotion fraud. See www.InventorEd.org/caution.
We have a team of volunteers who systematically gather data on companies who charge aspiring inventors large amounts of money (typ. $10 to $50 thousand, often get them patents which are worthless, and then lead them along for years with promises of making a fortune. We have been doing this for over a decade.
There are powers in numbers and by bringing people who have been defrauded together we are able to get law enforcement to go after these companies. When they attack us or any of our members we give the company quality time, much more attention.
This has led to large fines and criminal investigations.
It would be an understatement to say that these promoters are totally devoid of ethics.
This operation is funded with donations and it is all volunteer. No one is paid, including me.
They like to make these types of claims in the hope that they can discredit both our organizations and our key people.
What is funny about this is the more they attack us the more generous donors become because they know from personal experience who the crooks are.
Sometimes the best measure of a person's social worth is who doesn't like them. The fact that these frauds make these kinds of claims is an indication that our efforts have been devastatingly effective.
Readers who are interested in pursuing an invention should stay away from any company advertising on TV and when your patent is published should be leery of the solicitations which will occur.
We have a number of discussion groups available for aspiring inventors. These groups are not public and we do screen people before allowing them to join. Those who are interested can read www.InventorEd.org/novice/ and then request to join the discussion group. We also have groups for professional inventors, they are by invitation only.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
(reply to this) (link to this) (view in chronology)
One of the organizations I founded is the leader in fighting invention promotion fraud. See www.InventorEd.org/caution.
We have a team of volunteers who systematically gather data on companies who charge aspiring inventors large amounts of money (typ. $10 to $50 thousand, often get them patents which are worthless, and then lead them along for years with promises of making a fortune. We have been doing this for over a decade.
There are powers in numbers and by bringing people who have been defrauded together we are able to get law enforcement to go after these companies. When they attack us or any of our members we give the company quality time, much more attention.
This has led to large fines and criminal investigations.
It would be an understatement to say that these promoters are totally devoid of ethics.
This operation is funded with donations and it is all volunteer. No one is paid, including me.
They like to make these types of claims in the hope that they can discredit both our organizations and our key people.
What is funny about this is the more they attack us the more generous donors become because they know from personal experience who the crooks are.
Sometimes the best measure of a person's social worth is who doesn't like them. The fact that these frauds make these kinds of claims is an indication that our efforts have been devastatingly effective.
Readers who are interested in pursuing an invention should stay away from any company advertising on TV and when your patent is published should be leery of the solicitations which will occur.
We have a number of discussion groups available for aspiring inventors. These groups are not public and we do screen people before allowing them to join. Those who are interested can read www.InventorEd.org/novice/ and then request to join the discussion group. We also have groups for professional inventors, they are by invitation only.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
"So, in a situation where someone invents something and someone else patents it, who do you support? The "inventor" or the patent holder?"
Under American patent law the inventor is entitled to the invention. But they need to be able to prove that they were first and that they exercised diligence in advancing their invention.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
"How about you explain again how children learn, is there child inventors?"
There are children who actually produce viable inventions. It is rare.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
On the post: Would Copyright Work Better If It Was Treated More Like Property?
Changing the terms of a deal.
Isn't the essence of this argument about those who do no InventING trying to lower the compensation of those who do?
It is an attempt to change the terms of the contract between inventors and society to the detriment of the inventors.
Now, how about your boss comes in next week and says, Andrew, I only want to pay you twenty percent and by the way it is retroactive and not negotiable.
I think you might take exception to this.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Fatally Flawed Reasoning
Mike Masnick has admitted that inventions are scarce but argues that once something is invented that there should be minimal restrictions on use of the invention. The essence of his argument is that those using an invention, who often characterize their use as innovation, interests should have priority over those who actually produce the invention.
What he fails to understand is that the patent system is meant to maximize inventions so as to facilitate (for a price) society's advancement.
Mike's reasoning on this topic is fatally flawed.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Oh please...
I am a big believer in free speech and sex.
Actually, we all learned in sixties and seventies that sex was not free and we spent the rest of our lives dealing with that.
The same is true of speech. It is not free, for we must constantly fight to keep our rights.
But free speech has limits. In this case if someone has an invention you exercise your free speech right to encourage infringement then you could be used for inducing said infringement.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: bull shit
Did we tolerate a lawless west? Should we have tolerated the rise of mobsters?
Lots of people feel quite justified in lying, cheating, stealing when it suits them. A somewhat smaller number are quite capable of rape, maiming and killing.
Most of these people are kept in line by rule of law and knowing that they will be punished if they break the law.
Groups of people are quite capable of rationalizing doing things which many would not do in a one on one situation. This happens with all groups, corporate, nonprofit, government and church. How many clergy administer one on one therapy to their flock or collectively cover for pedophiles in their ranks?
The software community suffers from this problem.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
On the post: Would Copyright Work Better If It Was Treated More Like Property?
Re: star trek repilicators
Ronald J. Riley,
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
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Washington, DC
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Re: What About the Tax?
Ronald J. Riley,
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
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Washington, DC
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Programmers Blinded
My inventions were framed as hardware because there was not much case law on software patents at the time I was filing.
And the fact that inventions can often be implemented either as hardware or software is the reason that software should be patentable and that the law of the land is that software is in fact patentable.
Stealing others property is anti-social and all the rationalizing in the world does not change that fact.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Shipping American Inventions to India & Elsewhere
Inventors also form start-up companies and they enjoy higher profit margins, faster growth and pay better wages. In addition, their ability to exclude others ensures higher profits.
Of course, when an invention creates higher profits it is inevitable that others will try to profit on the pioneer's work.
That is the essence of the argument between those who invent and those who want to unjustly profit from someone elses invention. Those who invent and those who combine others work and call themselves innovators.
Another aspect of piracy of inventions is that when transnational companies do so they ship both the invention and prosperity those inventions represent to places like India.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
On the post: Red Hat Settles Patent Case With Acacia... But Won't Share The Details
Re: Masnik is a tool
Ronald J. Riley,
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
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Washington, DC
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On the post: Why Imitation Gets A Bad Rap... And Why Companies Need To Be More Serious About Copying
How To Study Patents
This will teach how to find relevant data.
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
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Washington, DC
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Re: Regarding the Riley IP maximalist
I am not a lawyer. I am an entrepreneur-engineer-inventor. I do manufacture my inventions.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
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Re: Re: Re: @this patent guy then @151
http://www.inventored.org/caution/friedman/
Rogue Patent Attorney Sanctioned - Becomes Vacuum Salesman
http://www.inventored.org/caution/kaardal/
Some companies never learn.
Ronald J. Riley,
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President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: InventHelp.com
Inventors who have lost money to this company should contact the FTC www.FTC.gov. Inventors are entitled to a refund and should not accept anything less then the full amount. See the FTC consent agreement and be sure to sent copies of complaints to Help@InvEd.org
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @this patent guy then @151
Inventors who have lost money to this company should contact the FTC www.FTC.gov. Inventors are entitled to a refund and should not accept anything less then the full amount. See the FTC consent agreement and be sure to sent copies of complaints to Help@InvEd.org
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: Re: @this patent guy then @151
Inventors who have lost money to this company should contact the FTC www.FTC.gov. Inventors are entitled to a refund and should not accept anything less then the full amount. See the FTC consent agreement and be sure to sent copies of complaints to Help@InvEd.org
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: exclude others
We have a team of volunteers who systematically gather data on companies who charge aspiring inventors large amounts of money (typ. $10 to $50 thousand, often get them patents which are worthless, and then lead them along for years with promises of making a fortune. We have been doing this for over a decade.
There are powers in numbers and by bringing people who have been defrauded together we are able to get law enforcement to go after these companies. When they attack us or any of our members we give the company quality time, much more attention.
This has led to large fines and criminal investigations.
It would be an understatement to say that these promoters are totally devoid of ethics.
This operation is funded with donations and it is all volunteer. No one is paid, including me.
They like to make these types of claims in the hope that they can discredit both our organizations and our key people.
What is funny about this is the more they attack us the more generous donors become because they know from personal experience who the crooks are.
Sometimes the best measure of a person's social worth is who doesn't like them. The fact that these frauds make these kinds of claims is an indication that our efforts have been devastatingly effective.
Readers who are interested in pursuing an invention should stay away from any company advertising on TV and when your patent is published should be leery of the solicitations which will occur.
We have a number of discussion groups available for aspiring inventors. These groups are not public and we do screen people before allowing them to join. Those who are interested can read www.InventorEd.org/novice/ and then request to join the discussion group. We also have groups for professional inventors, they are by invitation only.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: The System Works
We have a team of volunteers who systematically gather data on companies who charge aspiring inventors large amounts of money (typ. $10 to $50 thousand, often get them patents which are worthless, and then lead them along for years with promises of making a fortune. We have been doing this for over a decade.
There are powers in numbers and by bringing people who have been defrauded together we are able to get law enforcement to go after these companies. When they attack us or any of our members we give the company quality time, much more attention.
This has led to large fines and criminal investigations.
It would be an understatement to say that these promoters are totally devoid of ethics.
This operation is funded with donations and it is all volunteer. No one is paid, including me.
They like to make these types of claims in the hope that they can discredit both our organizations and our key people.
What is funny about this is the more they attack us the more generous donors become because they know from personal experience who the crooks are.
Sometimes the best measure of a person's social worth is who doesn't like them. The fact that these frauds make these kinds of claims is an indication that our efforts have been devastatingly effective.
Readers who are interested in pursuing an invention should stay away from any company advertising on TV and when your patent is published should be leery of the solicitations which will occur.
We have a number of discussion groups available for aspiring inventors. These groups are not public and we do screen people before allowing them to join. Those who are interested can read www.InventorEd.org/novice/ and then request to join the discussion group. We also have groups for professional inventors, they are by invitation only.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
We have a team of volunteers who systematically gather data on companies who charge aspiring inventors large amounts of money (typ. $10 to $50 thousand, often get them patents which are worthless, and then lead them along for years with promises of making a fortune. We have been doing this for over a decade.
There are powers in numbers and by bringing people who have been defrauded together we are able to get law enforcement to go after these companies. When they attack us or any of our members we give the company quality time, much more attention.
This has led to large fines and criminal investigations.
It would be an understatement to say that these promoters are totally devoid of ethics.
This operation is funded with donations and it is all volunteer. No one is paid, including me.
They like to make these types of claims in the hope that they can discredit both our organizations and our key people.
What is funny about this is the more they attack us the more generous donors become because they know from personal experience who the crooks are.
Sometimes the best measure of a person's social worth is who doesn't like them. The fact that these frauds make these kinds of claims is an indication that our efforts have been devastatingly effective.
Readers who are interested in pursuing an invention should stay away from any company advertising on TV and when your patent is published should be leery of the solicitations which will occur.
We have a number of discussion groups available for aspiring inventors. These groups are not public and we do screen people before allowing them to join. Those who are interested can read www.InventorEd.org/novice/ and then request to join the discussion group. We also have groups for professional inventors, they are by invitation only.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Just a thought
Under American patent law the inventor is entitled to the invention. But they need to be able to prove that they were first and that they exercised diligence in advancing their invention.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Re: Someone has to be original.
There are children who actually produce viable inventions. It is rare.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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