That's the EXACT SAME POLICY that Timothy is complaining about from Twich. A bunch of trolls -- sorry, "community members" -- click the report button and the content gets banned. Same could happen here. What's there to prevent it? What's the appeals process? What are the rules? Nobody knows, there probably aren't any -- just like on Twitch. And people who try to comment on this hypocrisy get their comments flagged and hidden. Way to take the high road, Techdirt....
Although I should probably also mention that usually when Techdirt posts such stories, it's from the viewpoint of "We can't regulate the right way to do this because every option sucks." Which seems like the direction they're going here in the first paragraph...but then from the opening of the second paragraph it kinda throws that all out and starts making a different -- and fairly hypocritical -- point. That rules need to be codified and explained. Not here on Techdirt of course -- here on Techdirt people just inherently know how it works. But EVERYWHERE ELSE the rules need to be codified and explained so people know what's allowed and what isn't.
Still might be good to include at least a little bit of that information though. Clearly SOMEONE thinks they're a good idea or the idea wouldn't have been included in the first place. Is it included purely due to bribes from corporate masters? Does some country think their companies are stronger and more likely to win such cases? Or weaker and in need of special protections? What's actually driving these clauses?
Following that same logic would mean that a company can sue anyone who posts a negative review of their product. Merely mentioning the name of a brand is not sufficient to claim infringement, and we DEFINITELY don't want to set the precedent that it is.
Re: Re: Heard the Radiolab Piece -- Same boat as Mike
I had similar thoughts, but also foresee a pretty big problem with that. What if an article involves two people with two different perspectives of what is the "truth"? Whose "right to correction" wins? Does the newspaper just have to keep updating old articles every time the other person sees the latest correction and submits one of their own? Does the newspaper decide who is right? Are they liable for the effects of that decision?
Eh, he's probably used to Disqus sites. A lot of those seem to be configured for moderation without the site owners realizing it, such that "held for moderation" ends up meaning "your comment will never be posted".
Re: Re: Oh, hey, Beefcake: nearing your 13th anniversary!
...says the troll with zero comment history because he can't manage to use the same name twice. Practice what you preach you hypocrite.
Also, what the heck is the point of commenting regularly if you never reply and never engage in any discussion? You're so critical of people who don't come back often enough YET YOU JUST DROP YOUR GARBAGE HERE AND NEVER RETURN FOR IT EITHER! I'm still waiting for your comments on my reply on Sept 6th, back when you were apparently referring to yourself as "THE EYE OF DORIAN"
"For years, many consumer-advocacy outlets (including this one) have been demanding a la carte cable service."
Yup. Still waiting for that one.
"Well, while this isn't cable service, a bunch of disparate online streaming services, each with their own sets of programming and exclusives, is certainly the online equivalent of a la carte cable."
No, it's not. It's the equivalent of the current cable bundles. I sign up for one bundle and I get hundreds of shows from dozens of networks when I really only want one of those. It's not like cable has no options -- you can subscribe to the sports package, or the movies package, or the music package, or the kids package, or a dozen others...just like you can subscribe to the Netflix package or the Hulu package or the Peacock package or a dozen others. But when I buy music, I don't have to subscribe to ten thousand different artists just to hear the one guy I like. If I want one album, I buy one album. If I want one individual song, I buy just that one individual song. You still can't do that for TV or movies, unless you buy the DVD box set several years later, and even that is only available for a select number of the most popular programs. I WISH buying TV one episode at a time as they're released was actually an option as you seem to imply, but I've certainly never seen it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: forget copyright, abolish Harold Thomas
If that organization is their own government, then that shouldn't be a problem.
This isn't a particularly uncommon situation. Granted, a national flag could be a bit different since that nation likely wouldn't have copyright laws in place at the time the flag was created. But states/provinces usually have flags, as do many cities. The local town council doesn't have these kinds of issues when they decide to change their flag design....probably because they aren't grabbing some random commercial design that's already been created, they solicit ideas then hire their own artist to complete it, or they get some artist to submit a design who will also sell or donate the rights to the town.
There's a bunch on Thingiverse. I think they're mostly miniatures but it should be easy enough to scale the model up to full size. Or even American size ;)
..are you implying that police should release the identity of any person they interact with all day long, even when that person was not accused nor convicted of any crime? That seems like an even worse idea than attempting to arrest journalists IMO.
The bigger issue is when they have infinite scroll content...and then stick links like 'about' and 'contact us' and 'terms of service' BELOW the infinite scroll. You scroll down, you see the links, you reach to click on them...and right as you're doing that new content loads in, the links drop away right under your fingers, and you end up clicking some ad instead.
It'd cost Amazon almost nothing, and it's big enough that it would likely bring new customers into the Kindle ecosystem. Plus a potential PR victory that they could really use right now. Sounds like a win all around to me...
"Nice idea, but I'm not sure Amazon would be willing to 'sell' a $0 standalone book like that."
Go to Amazon, navigate to the Kindle books, and sort by lowest price. I got to the 400th page of "$0.00" results before Amazon decided it wouldn't show me any more. They have many thousands of free books already; why wouldn't they allow this one?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Competing with fiber is not needed for Starlink
A "space backbone" still won't eliminate the middle down and up step, it'll just reduce any delays after that. The only way to eliminate the middle down+up step would be to put actual datacenters into orbit.
Best case, if I'm in Rhode Island and the datacenter is in California, it goes up to the satellite over RI, bounces to the satellite over CA, and then down to the datacenter. Then it's gotta go back up and across the satellites to get back. That's better than current systems which would bounce up to the satellite, then down to a receiver in Kansas or something, and then route over terrestrial cables to get from Kansas to CA...but the ground to space steps are the same, the only change would be where they terminate.
I think the main reason for the space backbone though would be due to the reduced coverage area. Satellites flying that low can't see as much of the ground, and they aren't stationary relative to the ground. So you can't guarantee that the satellite you're uploading to is going to be within sight of a ground receiver. That means you have to be able to hand that traffic from one satellite to the other until it reaches somewhere with a good path down.
So...the US government gets all of his profits for any sales where they have jurisdiction. Do they get the publisher's profits too, or just the author's cut? And knowing that this is likely, why wouldn't he just make the US edition a self-published $0 e-book? Pull an reverse of the typical "International Edition"
Re: Competing with fiber is not needed for Starlink to succeed.
I'm no expert, but as I understand it most of the latency from satellite broadband is due to the time delay of sending the signals up to the satellite and back down to the receiver. Current satellite internet systems seem to use a small number of satellites in geosynchronous orbit 35,000 kilometers up. That would mean nearly 440ms of latency just to ping the receiving station (~110ms to cover 35k km, times four to make the round trip) assuming zero processing delay, so that matches your 500ms number. Starlink is planned to orbit at an altitude of 550 kilometers, which should let it do that same round-trip in under 10ms. That could easily be comparable to terrestrial broadband in terms of latency.
So latency shouldn't be much of an issue; if pricing is good then I guess the problem would be total bandwidth available in the system. Getting data between satellites probably isn't much of an issue, if you can keep it on target I'd guess a laser ought to be as good as a fiber link, but to get back to the ground stations they're using radio where they might have more limitations on the available spectrum.
I'm not big on clothes and I avoid sports of all kinds as much as possible, but I'm quite familiar with Patagonia. I would have guessed they were bigger than North Face honestly. And I've certainly never heard of "Helly Hansen"...
And given that the article says it's common "out west", yet I've never lived further west than Pittsburgh, I'm not sure that it would be a regional thing...I did grow up in a small town which is mostly where I recall hearing of them though so maybe it's a rural thing?
Of course, I look up movie schedules and see what the latest big blockbusters are and I've usually never heard of ANY of them these days..."famous" doesn't mean what it used to...
"To you, perhaps, but as I don't do much that calls for their type of product I don't really hear that name in reference to clothing. You'll find that household names in some regions or industries either don't mean a thing to others or is best known for something else."
I do nothing that calls for that type of clothing; and apparently it's big "out west" while I can count on one hand the number of times in my life that I've been further west than Pittsburgh..but I am also quite familiar with this brand. I recall TV ads, magazine ads, probably other ads...I would have guessed they were bigger (but less "fashionable") than North Face, although based on the other comments here maybe not?
"A secret shared between thousands of entities, each with many people, won't remain secret for long. But sure, it's easy enough to create."
Why would it need to stay secret? Is all information about the existing secure algorithms going to be scrubbed from the face of the earth somehow once they pass such a law? It doesn't matter that people can still find and use strong crypto if the law makes that alone a reason to arrest them.
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Re: Not a difficult question if honestly asked
That's the EXACT SAME POLICY that Timothy is complaining about from Twich. A bunch of trolls -- sorry, "community members" -- click the report button and the content gets banned. Same could happen here. What's there to prevent it? What's the appeals process? What are the rules? Nobody knows, there probably aren't any -- just like on Twitch. And people who try to comment on this hypocrisy get their comments flagged and hidden. Way to take the high road, Techdirt....
Although I should probably also mention that usually when Techdirt posts such stories, it's from the viewpoint of "We can't regulate the right way to do this because every option sucks." Which seems like the direction they're going here in the first paragraph...but then from the opening of the second paragraph it kinda throws that all out and starts making a different -- and fairly hypocritical -- point. That rules need to be codified and explained. Not here on Techdirt of course -- here on Techdirt people just inherently know how it works. But EVERYWHERE ELSE the rules need to be codified and explained so people know what's allowed and what isn't.
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Still might be good to include at least a little bit of that information though. Clearly SOMEONE thinks they're a good idea or the idea wouldn't have been included in the first place. Is it included purely due to bribes from corporate masters? Does some country think their companies are stronger and more likely to win such cases? Or weaker and in need of special protections? What's actually driving these clauses?
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Re: Re: Re: Re:
Following that same logic would mean that a company can sue anyone who posts a negative review of their product. Merely mentioning the name of a brand is not sufficient to claim infringement, and we DEFINITELY don't want to set the precedent that it is.
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Re: Re: Heard the Radiolab Piece -- Same boat as Mike
I had similar thoughts, but also foresee a pretty big problem with that. What if an article involves two people with two different perspectives of what is the "truth"? Whose "right to correction" wins? Does the newspaper just have to keep updating old articles every time the other person sees the latest correction and submits one of their own? Does the newspaper decide who is right? Are they liable for the effects of that decision?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Eh, he's probably used to Disqus sites. A lot of those seem to be configured for moderation without the site owners realizing it, such that "held for moderation" ends up meaning "your comment will never be posted".
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Except in this case he wasn't seen leaving a bar, he was seen leaving a shopping center that happened to be located in the general vicinity of a bar.
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Re: Re: Oh, hey, Beefcake: nearing your 13th anniversary!
...says the troll with zero comment history because he can't manage to use the same name twice. Practice what you preach you hypocrite.
Also, what the heck is the point of commenting regularly if you never reply and never engage in any discussion? You're so critical of people who don't come back often enough YET YOU JUST DROP YOUR GARBAGE HERE AND NEVER RETURN FOR IT EITHER! I'm still waiting for your comments on my reply on Sept 6th, back when you were apparently referring to yourself as "THE EYE OF DORIAN"
Dumbass.
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Re: Be careful what you wish for...
"For years, many consumer-advocacy outlets (including this one) have been demanding a la carte cable service."
Yup. Still waiting for that one.
"Well, while this isn't cable service, a bunch of disparate online streaming services, each with their own sets of programming and exclusives, is certainly the online equivalent of a la carte cable."
No, it's not. It's the equivalent of the current cable bundles. I sign up for one bundle and I get hundreds of shows from dozens of networks when I really only want one of those. It's not like cable has no options -- you can subscribe to the sports package, or the movies package, or the music package, or the kids package, or a dozen others...just like you can subscribe to the Netflix package or the Hulu package or the Peacock package or a dozen others. But when I buy music, I don't have to subscribe to ten thousand different artists just to hear the one guy I like. If I want one album, I buy one album. If I want one individual song, I buy just that one individual song. You still can't do that for TV or movies, unless you buy the DVD box set several years later, and even that is only available for a select number of the most popular programs. I WISH buying TV one episode at a time as they're released was actually an option as you seem to imply, but I've certainly never seen it.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: forget copyright, abolish Harold Thomas
If that organization is their own government, then that shouldn't be a problem.
This isn't a particularly uncommon situation. Granted, a national flag could be a bit different since that nation likely wouldn't have copyright laws in place at the time the flag was created. But states/provinces usually have flags, as do many cities. The local town council doesn't have these kinds of issues when they decide to change their flag design....probably because they aren't grabbing some random commercial design that's already been created, they solicit ideas then hire their own artist to complete it, or they get some artist to submit a design who will also sell or donate the rights to the town.
On the post: Australian Aboriginal Flag Mess Is Getting Worse -- All Thanks To Copyright
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There's a bunch on Thingiverse. I think they're mostly miniatures but it should be easy enough to scale the model up to full size. Or even American size ;)
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..are you implying that police should release the identity of any person they interact with all day long, even when that person was not accused nor convicted of any crime? That seems like an even worse idea than attempting to arrest journalists IMO.
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The bigger issue is when they have infinite scroll content...and then stick links like 'about' and 'contact us' and 'terms of service' BELOW the infinite scroll. You scroll down, you see the links, you reach to click on them...and right as you're doing that new content loads in, the links drop away right under your fingers, and you end up clicking some ad instead.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: About the money...
It'd cost Amazon almost nothing, and it's big enough that it would likely bring new customers into the Kindle ecosystem. Plus a potential PR victory that they could really use right now. Sounds like a win all around to me...
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Re: Re: About the money...
"Nice idea, but I'm not sure Amazon would be willing to 'sell' a $0 standalone book like that."
Go to Amazon, navigate to the Kindle books, and sort by lowest price. I got to the 400th page of "$0.00" results before Amazon decided it wouldn't show me any more. They have many thousands of free books already; why wouldn't they allow this one?
On the post: Space X May Soon Give The US Broadband Sector A Much Needed Kick In The Ass
Re: Re: Re: Re: Competing with fiber is not needed for Starlink
A "space backbone" still won't eliminate the middle down and up step, it'll just reduce any delays after that. The only way to eliminate the middle down+up step would be to put actual datacenters into orbit.
Best case, if I'm in Rhode Island and the datacenter is in California, it goes up to the satellite over RI, bounces to the satellite over CA, and then down to the datacenter. Then it's gotta go back up and across the satellites to get back. That's better than current systems which would bounce up to the satellite, then down to a receiver in Kansas or something, and then route over terrestrial cables to get from Kansas to CA...but the ground to space steps are the same, the only change would be where they terminate.
I think the main reason for the space backbone though would be due to the reduced coverage area. Satellites flying that low can't see as much of the ground, and they aren't stationary relative to the ground. So you can't guarantee that the satellite you're uploading to is going to be within sight of a ground receiver. That means you have to be able to hand that traffic from one satellite to the other until it reaches somewhere with a good path down.
On the post: DOJ Decides To Help Publicize Snowden's Memoir By Suing Him For Failing To Run His Book By The CIA And NSA First
About the money...
So...the US government gets all of his profits for any sales where they have jurisdiction. Do they get the publisher's profits too, or just the author's cut? And knowing that this is likely, why wouldn't he just make the US edition a self-published $0 e-book? Pull an reverse of the typical "International Edition"
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Re: Competing with fiber is not needed for Starlink to succeed.
I'm no expert, but as I understand it most of the latency from satellite broadband is due to the time delay of sending the signals up to the satellite and back down to the receiver. Current satellite internet systems seem to use a small number of satellites in geosynchronous orbit 35,000 kilometers up. That would mean nearly 440ms of latency just to ping the receiving station (~110ms to cover 35k km, times four to make the round trip) assuming zero processing delay, so that matches your 500ms number. Starlink is planned to orbit at an altitude of 550 kilometers, which should let it do that same round-trip in under 10ms. That could easily be comparable to terrestrial broadband in terms of latency.
So latency shouldn't be much of an issue; if pricing is good then I guess the problem would be total bandwidth available in the system. Getting data between satellites probably isn't much of an issue, if you can keep it on target I'd guess a laser ought to be as good as a fiber link, but to get back to the ground stations they're using radio where they might have more limitations on the available spectrum.
On the post: AB InBev Fails To Get 'Patagonia' Trademark Suit Dismissed
Re: Re: Re: Patagonia who?
I'm not big on clothes and I avoid sports of all kinds as much as possible, but I'm quite familiar with Patagonia. I would have guessed they were bigger than North Face honestly. And I've certainly never heard of "Helly Hansen"...
And given that the article says it's common "out west", yet I've never lived further west than Pittsburgh, I'm not sure that it would be a regional thing...I did grow up in a small town which is mostly where I recall hearing of them though so maybe it's a rural thing?
Of course, I look up movie schedules and see what the latest big blockbusters are and I've usually never heard of ANY of them these days..."famous" doesn't mean what it used to...
On the post: AB InBev Fails To Get 'Patagonia' Trademark Suit Dismissed
Re: Re: Re:
"To you, perhaps, but as I don't do much that calls for their type of product I don't really hear that name in reference to clothing. You'll find that household names in some regions or industries either don't mean a thing to others or is best known for something else."
I do nothing that calls for that type of clothing; and apparently it's big "out west" while I can count on one hand the number of times in my life that I've been further west than Pittsburgh..but I am also quite familiar with this brand. I recall TV ads, magazine ads, probably other ads...I would have guessed they were bigger (but less "fashionable") than North Face, although based on the other comments here maybe not?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: They'd be exempt, of course
"A secret shared between thousands of entities, each with many people, won't remain secret for long. But sure, it's easy enough to create."
Why would it need to stay secret? Is all information about the existing secure algorithms going to be scrubbed from the face of the earth somehow once they pass such a law? It doesn't matter that people can still find and use strong crypto if the law makes that alone a reason to arrest them.
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