Wait, so I don't understand. Do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing? Because DH seems to be arguing from the standpoint that you're defending these actions, while you seem to be arguing from some neutral standpoint.
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Looking around at the other successful youtube artists, I'm pretty sure he would've been fine without Universal.
I mean, he wouldn't be this ridiculous phenomenon, but success is measured in strange ways these days. Some would even say that universal ruined his success, so, yeah.
Well, wikileaks has servers all over the world - some in reenforced bunkers. I don't think this will be much of a blow. It's just disappointing that Amazon would back down, really.
So let's say the government did something outrageous like, i don't know, shutting down a bunch of domains on a whim. And then someone a site playing host to a group the government doesn't like sees that and decides to not host that group anymore. Let's even say they do this without and direct threat. Let's say they just saw how those other sites were shut down without due process and got scared.
So, according to you, that doesn't count as censorship, right? That's perfectly okay and nobody's doing anything wrong at all apparently?
Isn't it more narcissistic to pretend that the information is private? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we pay taxes so that these people can go around being assholes? That makes us their employer, doesn't it.
Huh. I wonder what employers would say about an "information leak" if the content was non-work related text messages being sent on a company phone by an employee? Or info about an employee using the company car to pick up hookers? Or some supervisor deliberately mismanaging her department for her own personal benefit? I wonder if, instead of firing those employees, the employer would go, "wow I can't believe this was leaked, we should put that whistleblower in jail for this! My employees' activities on company time are private, regardless of what they do, even if it loses me money!"
Go read them yourself and see how many lives are being put at stake. Agents' names are all redacted.
If you can find me one cable on Wikileaks where the name of a CIA operative is not redacted, I will be 100% on your side. All you need to do is find one. Go ahead, go try. It shouldn't be that hard, right? Just one. That's all. I couldn't make this easier.
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You are aware that it is mainly the NYtimes behind Wiki's promotion
Where are on earth did you hear this? Do you mean Wikipedia maybe? Wikileaks is completely independent from that. In fact, it's pretty much completely independent from everything, except maybe Icland who are heavy supporters of the site.
By definition, the bill of rights laid out the fundamental rights of all human beings. The only reason their specific protections don't extend to foreigners is because that would be an OVER-extension of the US's sovereignty, and it's up to other sovereignties to apply those tenets themselves. It doesn't mean non-citizens don't have human rights. That's ridiculous.
Well since anyone can submit a leak to wikileaks (or the many other copycat sites out there), and anyone can go on and view those leaks once they're reviewed a released...technically that makes everyone the watchers watching the watchmen.
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Anyway, if we're being literally, then technically you'd only be allowed to fly 1/300,000,000th of it as well.
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I mean, he wouldn't be this ridiculous phenomenon, but success is measured in strange ways these days. Some would even say that universal ruined his success, so, yeah.
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So, according to you, that doesn't count as censorship, right? That's perfectly okay and nobody's doing anything wrong at all apparently?
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Didn't know about the Van Halen connection though :P
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Huh. I wonder what employers would say about an "information leak" if the content was non-work related text messages being sent on a company phone by an employee? Or info about an employee using the company car to pick up hookers? Or some supervisor deliberately mismanaging her department for her own personal benefit? I wonder if, instead of firing those employees, the employer would go, "wow I can't believe this was leaked, we should put that whistleblower in jail for this! My employees' activities on company time are private, regardless of what they do, even if it loses me money!"
Sounds like an incompetent employer to me.
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If you can find me one cable on Wikileaks where the name of a CIA operative is not redacted, I will be 100% on your side. All you need to do is find one. Go ahead, go try. It shouldn't be that hard, right? Just one. That's all. I couldn't make this easier.
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Where are on earth did you hear this? Do you mean Wikipedia maybe? Wikileaks is completely independent from that. In fact, it's pretty much completely independent from everything, except maybe Icland who are heavy supporters of the site.
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There's no one here to "feel" anything.
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Also, these cables go all the way back to 1966. If nothing else, they are historically meaningful, which is just as important.
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