"Why won't you discuss the meanings of the word property, Mike?"
Funny, I've read all Mike's comments on this article and have a pretty good idea of what Mike believes is and isn't property, and was property is and isn't. If you can't figure it out, it's your problem, not Mike's.
I think the problem is that it's only a "discussion" when people are agreeing with you. But when they're not saying exactly what you want to hear, suddenly you're the only one who's really trying and everyone else is running away from you. Your world is a sad one.
"If the allegations are true (and that's what a trial is supposed to find out) then it seems like they knowingly helped an infringer steal patents and profit from it."
So you claim they "knowingly" infringed on a patent, but in the same sentence point out that a trail is required to knowif the allegation is true. WTF?!
In future, think your argument through before commenting.
Re: Not inconsistent to catch two thieves at once.
"A criminal doesn't necessarily get off for helping catch another AFTER the fact. -- The files were there PRIOR to Ninjavideo bit, right?"
Simply having infringing files stored at MegaUpload does not make them criminals. Jeez, are you really that stupid? It's mind-boggling the crap you come up with.
"Oh please. Seriously, stop with the delusional postings."
You first.
"Masnick sides with the pirates and everyone knows it."
Three or four regular anti-everything-Techdirt commenters hardly counts as "everyone". That delusion is purely your own.
"He also apparently spies on anonymous commenter's IP addresses."
Even if you're convinced yourself this is true, it clearly doesn't bother you enough to actually stop posting, so what's your actual problem? Simply too chicken to stand behind all of your comments, even anonymously?
"...Megaupload's business model was based on the illegal trafficking of content."
It's amusing how difficult it's been to provide enough evidence of that for even an extradition.
"Really guys? Are you REALLY going to go full-on delusional at this point? Is that your strategy in your war on copyright?"
Well it seems to be working for the content industries! They're doing a fine job of ignoring the real world.
"I guarantee that you will end up on the losing end of this equation if you choose to soldier on being willfully blind to what is happening."
And I guarantee you that even if the USG wins this one, the real losers long-tem will be the content industries (and by that I don't mean content creators). Laws only work if they're respected, and the public's respect for copyright law is low and continuing to drop in no small part because of cases like this. The more they fight against public will, the sooner they'll disappear into irrelevancy. And good riddance to those that do.
"...masnick thinks that if you copy someone elses idea, that somehow you are creating innovation..."
Only a very stupid person would think that's what Mike thinks.
"if you develop your own method of doing something, the world then has access to at least 2 methods of doing something."
And if that second method is inferior, how exactly does society benefit?
"so it is very true, patents and copyrights FORCE innovation, and limit just making a copy of what someone else have come up with."
Simply making a copy of what someone else has come up with almost never results in a market success. It's simple-minded to think that's all you have to do to be successful.
"masnick thinks if Apple and samsung use the same techology and innovations that is somehow better for 'the people' but all we get is the same thing with a different name on it..."
Again, you clearly have no clue what Mike actually thinks. Feel free to attempt to offer any corroboration of your claim.
"Think about it, why do you suppose Spotify only charges $10 a month and dares not charge one penny more? Because they know they'd lose the subscribers who would infringe rather than pay more for the content they consume."
You mean the customers have decided how much the service is worth to them, and don't want to pay more? How shocking! Do you realise you make the same evaluation every time you pay for something?
"IF the free option of easy piracy is eliminated..."
Pretty much anything said after this statement is just not worth listening to. You can't have a serious discussion about is issues if you kick off with a ridiculous fantasy.
"must have hit pretty close to home to trigger that kind of irrational and illogical anger."
Where exactly is this anger you speak of?
"copyright protects the individual from exploitation by given the individual the power to negotiate..."
Yes, you "negotiate" with a record label to either give them the copyright to all your work, or walk away with nothing. That's some awesome "protection from exploitation" right there.
"But as I told you last year, Big Media ain't gonna stand still and let that go on forever."
As cheezy as it is to paraphrase from Star Wars, in this case it's quite appropriate. The more "Big Media" try to tighten their grip on control of content, the more consumers, customers and income will slip through their fingers. Those days are over, and it's the public that ain't gonna stand still and let that go on forever.
"BTW: Dotcom's recent statements about using encryption and making it more difficult for DOJ next time should get his bond canceled and him into jail for the interim."
Can you explain how making statements about future legal behaviour could possibly be used to have bail revoked? Your reasons should be entertaining if nothing else...
Re: Re: What is surprising is that Mike would think a lawyer would respond any other way.
It's not marketed as having 32GB "available space", it's marketed as having 32GB of capacity. So no, it's not dishonest, it's just annoying that there's a bunch of crap that you have to delete yourself if you don't want it. Hardly worthy of anything more than a grumpy blog post, let alone legal action.
Arrogant and cocky yes, but I'm curious what you think he's done that would make "a large majority of people" think he's a prick. I knew of him long before MegaUpload started and I never thought of him that way.
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Re: Possession
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Got anything to back up that wild conjecture?
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Funny, I've read all Mike's comments on this article and have a pretty good idea of what Mike believes is and isn't property, and was property is and isn't. If you can't figure it out, it's your problem, not Mike's.
I think the problem is that it's only a "discussion" when people are agreeing with you. But when they're not saying exactly what you want to hear, suddenly you're the only one who's really trying and everyone else is running away from you. Your world is a sad one.
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Re: Why not?
So you claim they "knowingly" infringed on a patent, but in the same sentence point out that a trail is required to knowif the allegation is true. WTF?!
In future, think your argument through before commenting.
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Re: Not inconsistent to catch two thieves at once.
Simply having infringing files stored at MegaUpload does not make them criminals. Jeez, are you really that stupid? It's mind-boggling the crap you come up with.
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You first.
"Masnick sides with the pirates and everyone knows it."
Three or four regular anti-everything-Techdirt commenters hardly counts as "everyone". That delusion is purely your own.
"He also apparently spies on anonymous commenter's IP addresses."
Even if you're convinced yourself this is true, it clearly doesn't bother you enough to actually stop posting, so what's your actual problem? Simply too chicken to stand behind all of your comments, even anonymously?
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It's amusing how difficult it's been to provide enough evidence of that for even an extradition.
"Really guys? Are you REALLY going to go full-on delusional at this point? Is that your strategy in your war on copyright?"
Well it seems to be working for the content industries! They're doing a fine job of ignoring the real world.
"I guarantee that you will end up on the losing end of this equation if you choose to soldier on being willfully blind to what is happening."
And I guarantee you that even if the USG wins this one, the real losers long-tem will be the content industries (and by that I don't mean content creators). Laws only work if they're respected, and the public's respect for copyright law is low and continuing to drop in no small part because of cases like this. The more they fight against public will, the sooner they'll disappear into irrelevancy. And good riddance to those that do.
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Only a very stupid person would think that's what Mike thinks.
"if you develop your own method of doing something, the world then has access to at least 2 methods of doing something."
And if that second method is inferior, how exactly does society benefit?
"so it is very true, patents and copyrights FORCE innovation, and limit just making a copy of what someone else have come up with."
Simply making a copy of what someone else has come up with almost never results in a market success. It's simple-minded to think that's all you have to do to be successful.
"masnick thinks if Apple and samsung use the same techology and innovations that is somehow better for 'the people' but all we get is the same thing with a different name on it..."
Again, you clearly have no clue what Mike actually thinks. Feel free to attempt to offer any corroboration of your claim.
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You mean the customers have decided how much the service is worth to them, and don't want to pay more? How shocking! Do you realise you make the same evaluation every time you pay for something?
"IF the free option of easy piracy is eliminated..."
Pretty much anything said after this statement is just not worth listening to. You can't have a serious discussion about is issues if you kick off with a ridiculous fantasy.
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Re: Re: Locking up ideas stifles progress
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Where exactly is this anger you speak of?
"copyright protects the individual from exploitation by given the individual the power to negotiate..."
Yes, you "negotiate" with a record label to either give them the copyright to all your work, or walk away with nothing. That's some awesome "protection from exploitation" right there.
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Re: After milking this so long, you got bupkus.
As cheezy as it is to paraphrase from Star Wars, in this case it's quite appropriate. The more "Big Media" try to tighten their grip on control of content, the more consumers, customers and income will slip through their fingers. Those days are over, and it's the public that ain't gonna stand still and let that go on forever.
"BTW: Dotcom's recent statements about using encryption and making it more difficult for DOJ next time should get his bond canceled and him into jail for the interim."
Can you explain how making statements about future legal behaviour could possibly be used to have bail revoked? Your reasons should be entertaining if nothing else...
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Re: Re: What is surprising is that Mike would think a lawyer would respond any other way.
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Re: I'm confused
And yet you posted that ironic nonsense. Way to completely miss the point.
"Thank GOD the police have removed another low-IQ freak from the voting pool."
Since when does being arrested prevent you from being able to vote? You don't seem to understand much of what you're ranting about.
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Re: "watches you back" = spies
You might need to explain who this particular "Mike" you refer to is, because it's not someone that anybody on this site is familiar with.
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