Then you don’t understand the consequences of repealing 230.
230 will allow the most baseless lawsuits to go forward against platforms both big and small. The big ones — “Big Tech”, as it were — would survive because they have legal teams and shitloads of money. The small ones would die the death of a thousand cuts. The only possible ways of avoiding that fate are undermoderation (can’t be sued for not having the knowledge that shit’s on your platform), overmoderation (can’t be sued if you don’t let the shit on your platform), or complete shutdown of third-party submissions (can’t be sued if you don’t give people a platform).
Show me the balance between what we have now and the fates described above, and I’ll tell you the same thing I will keep telling you when you bring this up: A repeal of 230 will only benefit massive corporations.
The solution is a public platform for politicians that guarantees freedom of complete access and freedom from all censorship.
Nothing you’ve developed is important to either the broader 3D modelling/rendering community or building designers. They all have programs for their given trades. Many of those programs existed before you ever thought of yours. Those communities don’t need you to help them; if anything, they probably don’t even know you exist.
Everything you said in that comment makes you sound like you’re the only person standing between 3D modelling/rendering programs and the nonexistence thereof. You’re not. Teams of people — some small, some large — work on those programs. You don’t, and your death wouldn’t affect their work.
The world will keep going after you die, even if you think it shouldn’t. The same goes for me — at least I have the courage to say that. So stop complaining that nobody is giving you a mansion and a blowjob for making something nobody uses/needs to use. Nothing makes a person look worse than wondering why the world isn’t kissing their ass.
The pattern that elevates blender is something like this:
Blender and its competitors appear to do their jobs well enough that nobody sees a need to further compete. That is a recognition of facts — not a “pattern that elevates Blender”.
there exists grassroots movement of over 10000 works that are competing against blender.
[citation needed]
There's always a question why should we pick this 1 project instead of these 9999 other projects.
Blender is a matured, feature-rich application and something of a standard in 3D modelling/rendering. Those “other projects” are not.
The investment activity is sometimes working at a loss, but the advantage to society is not coming from a few popular works, but from the whole 10000 works available on the market.
Someone who uses Blender has no obligation to use Meshpage. You have no right to make them use it. Your application lives and dies on its merits, not on the amount of time you spent making it.
the whole community is what contributes to the development of the industry, not just the top-graded ones
In re: 3D modelling, “the whole community” has generally decided which programs work best for the needs of said community. Blender is one of them. Meshpage isn’t.
For internet to bash those people who are doing hard work without compensation, its kind of activity that does not benefit society.
I don’t bash people who work on programs without being paid for it. Open source devs do good work.
I point out how people with entitlement complexes — e.g., you — think publishing an app, game, book, etc. means they deserve money and fame and mansions only for the fact that they published it. The world doesn’t (and shouldn’t) work that way.
Worst case would be if some developers of lower quality works would stop the activity and start idling or turn to evil masterminds and spraypainted the neighbours garage walls. This is what your activity might cause
The problem you want to solve lies within you if all that stands between you and breaking the law is hurt feelings. Nobody was, is, or ever will be required to metaphorically (or literally) suck your dick.
Your entire screed comes off as the whining of an entitled ass who thinks the world owes him a mansion because he developed an application. The world owes you nothing; it was here first. Meshpage is obviously a bust for you — seven years of development and not a single user! — so maybe find a new road to travel. After all, the only person keeping you stuck on the road you’re on right now is you.
Does that make you angry? Does what I say piss you off? If so: Good. But stop using your anger as a means of attacking others. Instead, use it as a means to examine why you’re mad, why you’re letting me (and others like me) get to you so badly that you’re spending shitloads of time here, and why you’re not trying harder to make something that people will want to use/experience.
Start where you are; use what you have; do what you can. What can you make that isn’t Meshpage but could capture the attention of others for reasons other than ridicule? Figure out the answer, then make that your goal. But make that thing for the sake of making it. Something created only to make money will lack a soul, and you’ll never be satisfied with what you’ve made. To quote Kid Rock:
If it looks good, you’ll see it. If it sounds good, you’ll hear it. If it’s marketed right, you’ll buy it. But…if it’s real…you’ll feel it.
For game development practises to be profitable, there should be constant income stream
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
When steam tries to find income streams for game developers, but then ignoring the newbie/beginner game developers completely, they're basically saying that doing game development at al loss is acceptable, as long as it's someone else that pays the development costs.
Valve has no obligation to fund the development of any game placed on Steam. No publisher or storefront has an obligation to fund third party content without a contract in place. Toby Fox didn’t beg any publisher or storefront for the money he needed to finish developing Undertale — and now he can do whatever the fuck he wants thanks to the overwhelming success of that game.
Development of a game will always have a cost, both monetary and chronological. Blame no one but yourself if you can’t raise the money to fund development of what you charitably call “games”. Valve and itch.io aren’t going to help you; you’re not entitled to make them help you.
Basically people who develop games are investing their own money and resources to the activity, but steam's system forces everyone to work at a loss.
Nobody has to go through Steam. They can publish their game through itch.io, strike a deal with GOG or Epic, or self-publish through their own website. Steam may offer the easiest way to reach a mass audience, but that doesn’t make Steam the only way for a game to reach people.
Free software and many other software area projects are in big trouble because this "developer subsidies the development activity" -mentality in the markets.
Unless the developer has an active contract with a funding source, developers always subsidize development. And even if they have the money, they still put in the time that the funding source may not. Everything has a price, and that includes software development.
I mean, how many years have you wasted on a program nobody either wants or needs?
So they aren't just banning Trump, but anyone who mentions him?
Re-read the key sentence of the post to which you replied: “[A]n account used to echo Trump's statments on Twitter was shut down for serving as an ad hoc Twitter account[.]”
The key word there is “echo”. The account wasn’t merely mentioning Trump — it was being used as a route-around for Old 45 to circumvent his ban.
And FYI: When he was still on Twitter, an account designed to parrot his tweets verbatim was suspended multiple times while Trump himself remained untouched.
If "hate speech" cannot be defined when it comes to government censorship, it can't be defined privately, either.
The government can’t define “hate speech” partially because of the First Amendment. But individual people aren’t bound by those restrictions. You can define “hate speech” however the fuck you want; so can the admins of a service like Twitter.
Trump, as a citizen, is being blocked from participating in public debates
This would be true only under two conditions:
He has a right to free reach — i.e., a spot on Twitter.
A Twitter ban infringes on his right to free speech.
What sucks for your “argument”: Neither condition is true.
Wondering where Twitch streamers could go if they left Twitch (aside from YouTube) is not the same as saying “the government should force Twitch to host streamers”, “the government should set up a site for Twitch streamers”, or whatever you wanted me to say so you would have something resembling a point.
Talk about the points I made instead of the ones you wish I had made. Commit to understanding what I’m saying rather than intentional ignorance. When you can do that, you and I can have a proper conversation. Until then: You need to shut the fuck up when grown folks are talking.
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You have no idea what you’re even saying any more, do you.
Nothing you’re saying here makes any sense in any context.
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How is “activating a community” an inherently bad thing?
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Then you don’t understand the consequences of repealing 230.
230 will allow the most baseless lawsuits to go forward against platforms both big and small. The big ones — “Big Tech”, as it were — would survive because they have legal teams and shitloads of money. The small ones would die the death of a thousand cuts. The only possible ways of avoiding that fate are undermoderation (can’t be sued for not having the knowledge that shit’s on your platform), overmoderation (can’t be sued if you don’t let the shit on your platform), or complete shutdown of third-party submissions (can’t be sued if you don’t give people a platform).
Show me the balance between what we have now and the fates described above, and I’ll tell you the same thing I will keep telling you when you bring this up: A repeal of 230 will only benefit massive corporations.
Congratulations, you’ve created 8chan.
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Let’s not forget about the Ku Klux Klan’s anti-racism rap party.
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That you redirected those emails to your spam folder doesn’t make them spam for everyone else. Try harder.
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[citation needed]
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Nothing you’ve developed is important to either the broader 3D modelling/rendering community or building designers. They all have programs for their given trades. Many of those programs existed before you ever thought of yours. Those communities don’t need you to help them; if anything, they probably don’t even know you exist.
Everything you said in that comment makes you sound like you’re the only person standing between 3D modelling/rendering programs and the nonexistence thereof. You’re not. Teams of people — some small, some large — work on those programs. You don’t, and your death wouldn’t affect their work.
The world will keep going after you die, even if you think it shouldn’t. The same goes for me — at least I have the courage to say that. So stop complaining that nobody is giving you a mansion and a blowjob for making something nobody uses/needs to use. Nothing makes a person look worse than wondering why the world isn’t kissing their ass.
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Blender and its competitors appear to do their jobs well enough that nobody sees a need to further compete. That is a recognition of facts — not a “pattern that elevates Blender”.
[citation needed]
Blender is a matured, feature-rich application and something of a standard in 3D modelling/rendering. Those “other projects” are not.
Someone who uses Blender has no obligation to use Meshpage. You have no right to make them use it. Your application lives and dies on its merits, not on the amount of time you spent making it.
In re: 3D modelling, “the whole community” has generally decided which programs work best for the needs of said community. Blender is one of them. Meshpage isn’t.
I don’t bash people who work on programs without being paid for it. Open source devs do good work.
I point out how people with entitlement complexes — e.g., you — think publishing an app, game, book, etc. means they deserve money and fame and mansions only for the fact that they published it. The world doesn’t (and shouldn’t) work that way.
The problem you want to solve lies within you if all that stands between you and breaking the law is hurt feelings. Nobody was, is, or ever will be required to metaphorically (or literally) suck your dick.
Your entire screed comes off as the whining of an entitled ass who thinks the world owes him a mansion because he developed an application. The world owes you nothing; it was here first. Meshpage is obviously a bust for you — seven years of development and not a single user! — so maybe find a new road to travel. After all, the only person keeping you stuck on the road you’re on right now is you.
Does that make you angry? Does what I say piss you off? If so: Good. But stop using your anger as a means of attacking others. Instead, use it as a means to examine why you’re mad, why you’re letting me (and others like me) get to you so badly that you’re spending shitloads of time here, and why you’re not trying harder to make something that people will want to use/experience.
Start where you are; use what you have; do what you can. What can you make that isn’t Meshpage but could capture the attention of others for reasons other than ridicule? Figure out the answer, then make that your goal. But make that thing for the sake of making it. Something created only to make money will lack a soul, and you’ll never be satisfied with what you’ve made. To quote Kid Rock:
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Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Valve has no obligation to fund the development of any game placed on Steam. No publisher or storefront has an obligation to fund third party content without a contract in place. Toby Fox didn’t beg any publisher or storefront for the money he needed to finish developing Undertale — and now he can do whatever the fuck he wants thanks to the overwhelming success of that game.
Development of a game will always have a cost, both monetary and chronological. Blame no one but yourself if you can’t raise the money to fund development of what you charitably call “games”. Valve and itch.io aren’t going to help you; you’re not entitled to make them help you.
Nobody has to go through Steam. They can publish their game through itch.io, strike a deal with GOG or Epic, or self-publish through their own website. Steam may offer the easiest way to reach a mass audience, but that doesn’t make Steam the only way for a game to reach people.
Unless the developer has an active contract with a funding source, developers always subsidize development. And even if they have the money, they still put in the time that the funding source may not. Everything has a price, and that includes software development.
I mean, how many years have you wasted on a program nobody either wants or needs?
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Fuck off back to InfoWars, Alex.
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Two things.
No, it doesn’t.
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Stop putting up strawmen; you’ll start a fire.
Re-read the key sentence of the post to which you replied: “[A]n account used to echo Trump's statments on Twitter was shut down for serving as an ad hoc Twitter account[.]”
The key word there is “echo”. The account wasn’t merely mentioning Trump — it was being used as a route-around for Old 45 to circumvent his ban.
And FYI: When he was still on Twitter, an account designed to parrot his tweets verbatim was suspended multiple times while Trump himself remained untouched.
The government can’t define “hate speech” partially because of the First Amendment. But individual people aren’t bound by those restrictions. You can define “hate speech” however the fuck you want; so can the admins of a service like Twitter.
This would be true only under two conditions:
He has a right to free reach — i.e., a spot on Twitter.
What sucks for your “argument”: Neither condition is true.
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I call it the “I have been silenced” fallacy.
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[you’ve got to cite stuff, baby / or else you’ll always be completely wrong]
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You think this is a “gotcha”, but it isn’t.
Wondering where Twitch streamers could go if they left Twitch (aside from YouTube) is not the same as saying “the government should force Twitch to host streamers”, “the government should set up a site for Twitch streamers”, or whatever you wanted me to say so you would have something resembling a point.
Talk about the points I made instead of the ones you wish I had made. Commit to understanding what I’m saying rather than intentional ignorance. When you can do that, you and I can have a proper conversation. Until then: You need to shut the fuck up when grown folks are talking.
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Other than YouTube…an exodus to where, exactly? Microsoft tried and failed to compete with Twitch. Who the hell else is going to try now?
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Yes or no: Could the people who were affected by this moderation decision espouse pro-Trump speech elsewhere?
If “yes”: The decision wasn’t censorship.
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To wit: Fox News.
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Enough people besides me do it these days that I needn’t bother. 😄
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Which opinions, pray tell?
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