CDA 230 requires no such thing. It encourages moderation (or, more properly, removes a disincentive to moderate), but it does not require anything of the kind.
These programs are deployed under a number of faulty assumptions, not the least of which is students have zero expectation of privacy.
Since the part that appears to concern you the most (since you spent the lion's share of the article discussing it) is the social media monitoring, what expectation of privacy do students have there? What expectation of privacy should they have? I believe the correct answers to both of these questions are close enough to "none" as makes no difference. This has nothing to do with "students", and everything to do with "social media".
What you post to Facebook is public, and it never truly goes away. This is true whether you're an adult or child, student or not.
The false assumption in play is that students have no First Amendment rights. While courts have limited those rights when students are at school, there's nothing that limits them when they're off-campus and not at a school activity.
Other constitutional violations against pro ses involve the award of attorney fees to a represented party against a pro se who cannot collect fees.
Which provision(s), of which constitution(s), does this violate? Awards of attorney fees are intended to cover the expenses incurred by that party. Why should a pro se litigant be reimbursed for costs he didn't incur? Court costs can, of course, be awarded to either party.
they should be granted counsel.
Why? If a law license is as meaningless as you suggest, why do they need a lawyer? Why can't they competently handle the case on their own? And ffs, why should I pay for their lawyer?
Perhaps it's time to appoint counsel in all pro-se cases or require prefiling review
I'd completely agree with a postfiling review. Anything that doesn't state a plausible claim can be immediately dismissed, with prejudice, saving defendants from having to respond to utterly idiotic claims like those contained here.
it's obvious the judiciary is biased against them.
My observation is that the judiciary bends over backward to accommodate pro se litigants, usually to the detriment of everyone else involved. Nonetheless, yes, there's some bias against litigants with utterly inane ideas about how the law works--which seem to be very common among pro se parties.
Yeah, I guess that law degree, licenses, and 20+ years of practice don't mean anything. But if you haven't seen a decision here that you thought was way off the mark, you just haven't been reading long.
The correct standard to use was mens rea, meaning the government needed to prove Elonis knew his posts were illegal
"Correct standard" according to whom? You? Since you don't seem to know what mens rea is (tip: it isn't "Defendant knew what he was doing was illegal"--as the very definition you linked to shows), I'm not inclined to accept you as an authority on the subject.
In the current case, sounds like an entirely appropriate result. And if it's characteristic of "rap music" (sic) to threaten death to specific individuals by name, the sooner it goes away the better.
War is peace! Freedom is slavery! Ignorance is strength!
I don't think that's necessarily what's going on here, though I'm far from sure that Facebook deserves the benefit of the doubt. What it sounds like, based on the anonymous dev who's quoted, is that passwords were written in cleartext to an error log file, presumably along with lots of other information about the user's environment and what they were doing. Devs (2000 of them, apparently) queried those log files, and the results of those queries included the passwords. But there is (allegedly) no evidence that those passwords were misused. Believe it or not, it's at least facially plausible, and it's reasonably consistent.
unis are private institutions just like Twitter or Facebook
Um, no, they aren't. At least not when they're public universities, as the school in question is. They're state actors, and as such, the First Amendment can be implicated by their actions. I don't see that their choosing not to show this piece of alleged art does violate the First Amendment (Tim apparently thinks this point is obvious enough to not require any support--I'm a lawyer who has researched the issue a bit, and I disagree). But the school is nowhere close to the same position as Facebook/Twitter/etc.
All of this is irrelevant. His view of the 1A is irrelevant. The quality of his works is irrelevant. His motivation for creating them is pretty much irrelevant. The 1A itself, and the relevant case law (as defined by courts, not by him), are what's relevant.
Under that case law, I don't see any way that the work is properly deemed obscene. The sheriff may not have known better, but the DA should have. I don't see any other reason that the work wouldn't be protected (i.e., it isn't defamatory, it isn't a threat, it certainly isn't fighting words, etc.). Without a clear-cut exception, the work is protected, as is his right to create and display it.
However, from what I've found (and I'll acknowledge that the case law I've found is both scanty and old), the First Amendment doesn't guarantee him space at the school's exhibition. Tim seems to think the contrary position is so obvious as to not require any explanation at all. I'm still waiting for a citation to relevant authority.
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Re: CDA 230?
CDA 230 requires no such thing. It encourages moderation (or, more properly, removes a disincentive to moderate), but it does not require anything of the kind.
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Re: Re: It's called an F-BOMB for a reason you know
Expect to hear from the estates of the thousands of Germans who died laughing after reading this.
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Expectation of privacy?
Since the part that appears to concern you the most (since you spent the lion's share of the article discussing it) is the social media monitoring, what expectation of privacy do students have there? What expectation of privacy should they have? I believe the correct answers to both of these questions are close enough to "none" as makes no difference. This has nothing to do with "students", and everything to do with "social media".
What you post to Facebook is public, and it never truly goes away. This is true whether you're an adult or child, student or not.
The false assumption in play is that students have no First Amendment rights. While courts have limited those rights when students are at school, there's nothing that limits them when they're off-campus and not at a school activity.
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Which provision(s), of which constitution(s), does this violate? Awards of attorney fees are intended to cover the expenses incurred by that party. Why should a pro se litigant be reimbursed for costs he didn't incur? Court costs can, of course, be awarded to either party.
Why? If a law license is as meaningless as you suggest, why do they need a lawyer? Why can't they competently handle the case on their own? And ffs, why should I pay for their lawyer?
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The Speaker of the House can unilaterally pass legislation? Maybe you want to revisit your High School U.S. Government class.
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The former. Specifically (though I recognize implicitly) court decisions.
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I'd completely agree with a postfiling review. Anything that doesn't state a plausible claim can be immediately dismissed, with prejudice, saving defendants from having to respond to utterly idiotic claims like those contained here.
My observation is that the judiciary bends over backward to accommodate pro se litigants, usually to the detriment of everyone else involved. Nonetheless, yes, there's some bias against litigants with utterly inane ideas about how the law works--which seem to be very common among pro se parties.
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Re: Re: "Can't"?
Yeah, I guess that law degree, licenses, and 20+ years of practice don't mean anything. But if you haven't seen a decision here that you thought was way off the mark, you just haven't been reading long.
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Re: Re: "Can't"?
I am one, thanks.
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"Can't"?
Well, you'd hope not, anyway. There have been some stunningly-bad decisions reported here...
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Re: Let me guess: Self filed.
Yep, it's pro se.
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Re: Corporate power on "platforms" is government-conferred SO
If your position were not so moronic (and if you actually understood the meanings of terms you used), your persistence would be adorable.
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"Correct standard" according to whom? You? Since you don't seem to know what mens rea is (tip: it isn't "Defendant knew what he was doing was illegal"--as the very definition you linked to shows), I'm not inclined to accept you as an authority on the subject.
In the current case, sounds like an entirely appropriate result. And if it's characteristic of "rap music" (sic) to threaten death to specific individuals by name, the sooner it goes away the better.
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...and that would even kind of make sense. It would even be within legitimate Federal authority. But no, pretty sure that isn't what's going on here.
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So...
...is this the time to welcome him to the big leagues?
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I don't think that's necessarily what's going on here, though I'm far from sure that Facebook deserves the benefit of the doubt. What it sounds like, based on the anonymous dev who's quoted, is that passwords were written in cleartext to an error log file, presumably along with lots of other information about the user's environment and what they were doing. Devs (2000 of them, apparently) queried those log files, and the results of those queries included the passwords. But there is (allegedly) no evidence that those passwords were misused. Believe it or not, it's at least facially plausible, and it's reasonably consistent.
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Re: Re: Re: So... crack a book open bro
Um, no, they aren't. At least not when they're public universities, as the school in question is. They're state actors, and as such, the First Amendment can be implicated by their actions. I don't see that their choosing not to show this piece of alleged art does violate the First Amendment (Tim apparently thinks this point is obvious enough to not require any support--I'm a lawyer who has researched the issue a bit, and I disagree). But the school is nowhere close to the same position as Facebook/Twitter/etc.
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...except that his use of those works is almost certainly fair use.
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All of this is irrelevant. His view of the 1A is irrelevant. The quality of his works is irrelevant. His motivation for creating them is pretty much irrelevant. The 1A itself, and the relevant case law (as defined by courts, not by him), are what's relevant.
Under that case law, I don't see any way that the work is properly deemed obscene. The sheriff may not have known better, but the DA should have. I don't see any other reason that the work wouldn't be protected (i.e., it isn't defamatory, it isn't a threat, it certainly isn't fighting words, etc.). Without a clear-cut exception, the work is protected, as is his right to create and display it.
However, from what I've found (and I'll acknowledge that the case law I've found is both scanty and old), the First Amendment doesn't guarantee him space at the school's exhibition. Tim seems to think the contrary position is so obvious as to not require any explanation at all. I'm still waiting for a citation to relevant authority.
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