Unless there is secret unknown way to do this way more energy effecient: No.
I don't want to contribute to all that waste, cars are bad enough as it is. Why go of the ground? Isn't that waste? 3dimensions might be nice, but think of ALL the energy and efficiency it cost. What is even better about a flying car ride?
Is there anything I would even want, expect 'it's great.' I can get from point AtoB isn't flying only better because it is 'cool'?
p.s. don't you read Mike comments: Indeed. Which is why he's giving away a digitized version of the book.
It isn't a sample so it's exactly the way you said he should. =)
Publishing a book and getting it distributed and wasting all those trees and not being able to keep it updates seems like a waste.It certainly is. Only when people want to read something they want to be able to take it to bed, have something in their hands or simply something to collect. It might be a waste, but it also is a scarce good.
The information is infinite so that will be free to download. No not a sample, the whole bunch. Samples are shit, you always want more but you can't get it. Also people won't be enthusiastic about samples so they won't spread the book for you, you won't get any advertisement.
A CD can be a upsell and book can be too. Only just a sample won't do it. :) Why advertise when you can let your fans do that for you? You still have things to sell, or they could hire some of your other scarce goods. :)
For me, it seems that there is a little bit of "do as I say, not do as I do" at work here.Chris might better give out his whole book non-copyrighted, not just a sample or you are right.
Also, you make it sound like Mike is justifying piracy; he's not.I am though. :)Nobody gets hurt, nothing is lost and all I do is promote the thing I wanted, help to get more people interested in it. If it wasn't for piracy I would never had discovered the 'scene' I am in right now. If it weren't for piracy I weren't ever so obsessed with it and the scene might be almost dead, it would never have gotten my concert tickets.
There is one thing you can easily find; 'short sighted, get away & pretend it is not there' view of mind and that also happens to be the one thing I hate. If it weren't for piracy I wouldn't have ever spent any money on things I liked. Now: I am 19 and I listen to music from every era, I listen to every genre, and only pop is what I hate. I won more vinyl&CD's than my dad ever had, I just recently bought a CD, I have a bulletin board full of concert tickets.
And without piracy there wouldn't be any of that. I would have just hated music all around. No I am not like the most, the most do as I hate. They go with the crowd.
Who gets to decide that? Whoever "owns" that information or the general public? 'Coz it seems the mobs get to decide that in the case of music and movie makers.
There is a difference between public and private information.
The information to my bank account is private, if anybody would ever find them out they will be changed. Privacy is a scarce good. Once it's public, it's forever lost.
Movies, music on the other hand are already public from the moment you have publiced them. Their sole purpose is the be spread around. It is as simple as that.
The information itself is infinite, the privacy isn't.
It's the basic in the field of Physics. Scarce goods aren't able to be duplicated, infinite goods like information are. It just isn't to hard to understand.
It isn't about the law, it's about it we feel it should be. I feel I should be free to duplicate if there is no cost. Others could still make money around it, no matter what.
It's fairly easy although for some so hard to understand. =)
p.s. I am not an 'expert' although a fair amount of people here are.
As I said I partly agree with you on that. :)
Although I have also seen his book WILL be on the internet.
Although he still only mostly does the talk. Also adds aren't the way. There are way better scarce goods.
But on the other side, do you also mind commenting on the fact that you yourself are giving away free content. =) You only take out part of peoples post, ignoring the rest. Acting like it doesn't exist.
Harold is giving us FREE content...
How can that be, you can't Harold you should charge us for that. You can't give us free content!! You just can't you won't make any profit and you, as poor comment-artist, will end up on the street starving to dead!!
You just can't, think of the artist!
p.s. Chris Anderson mostly just thinks of advertisement, Think of the 'Freemium' term he coined, all that content is just paid by advertisement. There are a lot of better scarce good instead of selling customer attention. We hate that. There are way more and virtually all of them are better.
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How stupid is that...
I guess I am objecting mostly because the presentation is given as pretty much a fait accomplis, a done deal, or worse, an inevitable as the melting of the snow in the spring.
Saying that is like saying 'I haven't seen the sun yet so the snow isn't going to melt.' It is happening slowly but surely, It IS a done deal, people will always want to share infinite goods and artist are already sharing their content.
Why is Chris Anderson's book "Free!" not going to be free? In fact, it's cover price is $26.99. Doesn't that seem a little odd?His book will be free, the paperback cover won't.
On top of Anymoose question here: you know what, we can't make money producing records anymore, so we are stopping. We will only do concerts
Who would ever go to those concerts if they don't have any songs recorded? Who would ever go there if the old songs get old?
The ice argument is nice, but not entirely relevant. Cheap music has always been available, most of us know how to whistle and many of us sing in the shower. So there is no shortage of cheap music, just a shortage of good music.First of all it's an ANOLOGY, they can be a bit off.
Second, it actually really even supports this point.
Cheap Ice also always has been available. Think of the Alps, Mountains, North-&Southpole. Just to bad it has always been on a lot of hard to reach places.
Just like with music, there's plenty of good ice/music available, just that it was hard to find & distribute.
Alas, are you willing to pay the full cost personally? No, this is why I would pay for the creation of it in small bits together with a lot of other people. :) I pay a very small part of the cost, the cost is shared by however many people buy in to this.
Don't you think it is actually quit stupid, from a business perspective, to pay for something if it isn't clear if you will ever get you money back from it? Why guess if you could also make people pay in front.
It's just like a painter, we are paying to enjoy seeing his or her work after it is gone (when we pay to enter a museum) or we pay to enjoy it if we buy the work outrightI don't think an artist ever sees a dime for that. In the case of a museum the artist has already been paid when he created and/or sold his art piece. We pay for access to a building where a lot of art is stored, we can not access the art in any other way. It's practically impossible. Also when you buy a masterpiece second handed, you can't get a Rembrandt first handed, the artist won't get a dime.
Because you are confusing the product and the advertising.Let's just imagine this hypothetical situation where an artist makes money with creating his art.
For all the moments he spend on his art he charges money. He needs to get paid, only nobody knows him yet. He could sell the creation of his art, but nobody would buy it. He could write some things he wanted, but nobody could ever see it. He needs to be exposed.
It is a monopoly, you shouldn't like at it from a complete market standpoint, but instead on the single creation.Copyright is government granted monopoly on the distribution of that particular artwork. Till a while ago nobody could do it, simply because the government revoked them of that right.
But guess, the internet has come, and even now your grandmother easily without ever getting get.
It isn't destroying the music industry, live performances and the creation of music are still a scarce good. You can still sell that. There has been more good music than ever, you only have to find it. And no 'American Idol' isn't it.
I know what a sponsorship is. :) I just don't like it.
There are other ways. A lot of other ways.
Think of it: if I like your music I finance your next CD ... together with a lot of other fans. I like and finance it, I don't want company names to be spammed around.
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I don't want to contribute to all that waste, cars are bad enough as it is. Why go of the ground? Isn't that waste? 3dimensions might be nice, but think of ALL the energy and efficiency it cost. What is even better about a flying car ride?
Is there anything I would even want, expect 'it's great.' I can get from point AtoB isn't flying only better because it is 'cool'?
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It isn't a sample so it's exactly the way you said he should. =)
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The information is infinite so that will be free to download. No not a sample, the whole bunch. Samples are shit, you always want more but you can't get it. Also people won't be enthusiastic about samples so they won't spread the book for you, you won't get any advertisement.
A CD can be a upsell and book can be too. Only just a sample won't do it. :) Why advertise when you can let your fans do that for you? You still have things to sell, or they could hire some of your other scarce goods. :)
For me, it seems that there is a little bit of "do as I say, not do as I do" at work here.Chris might better give out his whole book non-copyrighted, not just a sample or you are right.
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There is one thing you can easily find; 'short sighted, get away & pretend it is not there' view of mind and that also happens to be the one thing I hate. If it weren't for piracy I wouldn't have ever spent any money on things I liked. Now: I am 19 and I listen to music from every era, I listen to every genre, and only pop is what I hate. I won more vinyl&CD's than my dad ever had, I just recently bought a CD, I have a bulletin board full of concert tickets.
And without piracy there wouldn't be any of that. I would have just hated music all around. No I am not like the most, the most do as I hate. They go with the crowd.
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It's funny because that is exactly what he really did...
The book is free, a hard copy is not. I already said that so why not react on that? You are satire, plain simple.
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There is a difference between public and private information.
The information to my bank account is private, if anybody would ever find them out they will be changed. Privacy is a scarce good. Once it's public, it's forever lost.
Movies, music on the other hand are already public from the moment you have publiced them. Their sole purpose is the be spread around. It is as simple as that.
The information itself is infinite, the privacy isn't.
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What Killer_Tofu said; The truth always stings harder?
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It isn't about the law, it's about it we feel it should be. I feel I should be free to duplicate if there is no cost. Others could still make money around it, no matter what.
It's fairly easy although for some so hard to understand. =)
p.s. I am not an 'expert' although a fair amount of people here are.
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Although I have also seen his book WILL be on the internet.
Although he still only mostly does the talk. Also adds aren't the way. There are way better scarce goods.
But on the other side, do you also mind commenting on the fact that you yourself are giving away free content. =) You only take out part of peoples post, ignoring the rest. Acting like it doesn't exist.
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Omg...
How can that be, you can't Harold you should charge us for that. You can't give us free content!! You just can't you won't make any profit and you, as poor comment-artist, will end up on the street starving to dead!!
You just can't, think of the artist!
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How stupid is that...
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Saying that is like saying 'I haven't seen the sun yet so the snow isn't going to melt.' It is happening slowly but surely, It IS a done deal, people will always want to share infinite goods and artist are already sharing their content.
Why is Chris Anderson's book "Free!" not going to be free? In fact, it's cover price is $26.99. Doesn't that seem a little odd?His book will be free, the paperback cover won't.
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you know what, we can't make money producing records anymore, so we are stopping. We will only do concerts
Who would ever go to those concerts if they don't have any songs recorded? Who would ever go there if the old songs get old?
And last buy not least: Why hasn't anyone quit?
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Second, it actually really even supports this point.
Cheap Ice also always has been available. Think of the Alps, Mountains, North-&Southpole. Just to bad it has always been on a lot of hard to reach places.
Just like with music, there's plenty of good ice/music available, just that it was hard to find & distribute.
Alas, are you willing to pay the full cost personally? No, this is why I would pay for the creation of it in small bits together with a lot of other people. :) I pay a very small part of the cost, the cost is shared by however many people buy in to this.
Don't you think it is actually quit stupid, from a business perspective, to pay for something if it isn't clear if you will ever get you money back from it? Why guess if you could also make people pay in front.
It's just like a painter, we are paying to enjoy seeing his or her work after it is gone (when we pay to enter a museum) or we pay to enjoy it if we buy the work outrightI don't think an artist ever sees a dime for that. In the case of a museum the artist has already been paid when he created and/or sold his art piece. We pay for access to a building where a lot of art is stored, we can not access the art in any other way. It's practically impossible. Also when you buy a masterpiece second handed, you can't get a Rembrandt first handed, the artist won't get a dime.
Because you are confusing the product and the advertising.Let's just imagine this hypothetical situation where an artist makes money with creating his art.
For all the moments he spend on his art he charges money. He needs to get paid, only nobody knows him yet. He could sell the creation of his art, but nobody would buy it. He could write some things he wanted, but nobody could ever see it. He needs to be exposed.
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But guess, the internet has come, and even now your grandmother easily without ever getting get.
It isn't destroying the music industry, live performances and the creation of music are still a scarce good. You can still sell that. There has been more good music than ever, you only have to find it. And no 'American Idol' isn't it.
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There are other ways. A lot of other ways.
Think of it: if I like your music I finance your next CD ... together with a lot of other fans. I like and finance it, I don't want company names to be spammed around.
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