TechDirt is an American site. The server is physically located in the USA. No matter if Germany were to make it illegal to even mention Wolfgang Werle and his half-brother Manfred Lauber (who murdered Bavarian actor Walter Sedlmayr), it would not affect this site.
You bring up mentioning the Nazis under Germany law, yet this applies only to glorifying the regime. You can of course mention "Nazis", otherwise history book publishers would be out of business.
I'm against censorship laws, they serve no good in the long run. It's a good thing they're being ridiculed and ignored on this site, as well as German websites!
Still, none of this will bring Bavarian actor Walter Sedlmayr from the dead, as he has been murdered by murderer Wolfgang Werle and his half-brother Manfred Lauber, also a murderer.
I'm sure we may hear from murderers Wolfgang Werle and Manfred Lauber if that is the case. I assume they won't want a widely-read website such as this to report on their murder of Bavarian actor Walter Sedlmayr, and I doubt they would want comment contributors bringing it up. So can we stop doing it okay?
They were literally .mp3 files put on her site. No way of tracking them via a third party, unlike legal downloads (iTunes, Amazon, Play.com) which are vetted by an indepedent agency. Ask yourself why they're now deleted when TechDirt reported on them.
Don't be angry that the blogosphere once again triumphed over the newspapers.
The newspapers are full of waffle about Lily "quitting music" - which turned out to be false, a deliberate lie from Lily/EMI which would get attention away from her illegal MP3s.
She did change her position. She believed someone would take up where she left off - hence the "passing the baton" comment.
And you know who has taken on her role?
No, neither do I!
It's because virtually everyone realises it was absolutely stupid to accuse music fans of being thieves. Lily got silenced, but did some spinning to make it look like she was being abused. My blog entry (kindly linked in this TechDirt article) proves what really happened.
It was TheRegister, which is normally a good sensible source of IT news.
Here are their comments, which I disagree with...
Allen had pasted a story from anti-copyright site TechDirt - which suddenly and quite miraculously discovered the power of copyright. Bit of a learning curve for everyone, then.
We've got some mail about that.
"Presumably that loud cracking noise in the background is the smiles breaking out on the fossilised faces of the FAC members," writes Tim Cuthill.
Single issue fanatics like TechDirt's Mike Masnick don't want P2P to go legit, which is the obvious and progressive solution, but for creators' rights to be abolished, leaving artists to sell T-shirts and play live."
Actually, making almost hours worth of copyrighted music available on your own site can easily be more damaging than torrents. It's far easier to download. I know lot of casual net users who do not touch torrents because "it's complicated".
Let's not forget Lily wanted to criminalise her own fans. The proposals she campaigned for, would sever the internet connections of hundreds of thousands, if not millions. And, as I pointed out, she'd have her own connection cut off, rather ironically.
I do NOT sanction the abuse she got. I did see comments on the blog calling her a "skank" and a "ho", which is just juvenile. It doesn't mean to say that all pro-filesharers act like that.
The conclusion is that us we won. Yes, the "keyboard anarchists" did. Lily lied several times in that blog, about the music industry shrinking, the contents of the mixtapes, etc.
Following Lily's own logic would see herself facing legal action, but most of her opponents wrote some incredibly insightful stuff and put her straight.
I cannot see how anyone could see this as a win for Miss Allen. Unless they're in the pocket of the record labels...
Absolute rubbish, I downloaded the mixtape MP3s last night (I wonder if they're gone now), I'm listening to them right now. Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks is there IN FULL, among many other songs. Only a small handful are in there under one minute.
Meh, I haven't got the time right now to launch that Ace Candy website - which has been on the back-burner for about 3 years, fully intending to be my web-design business one day! (I'm snowed under with lots of work anyway.) I am just chuffed at getting my first story submission published on TechDirt!
Really chuffed how this story has made it to torrentfreak.com, and is doing massively well on Twitter. I did do some commenting on Lily's blog, but it's things like Techdirt and Digg which can really propel revelations like this around the world, and hopefully make a difference. I love reading TechDirt, it's pretty much bang-on 98% of the time!
Re: Re: Lily Allen distributes copyright music by famous acts...
The tracks from SL2 and Dizzee Rascal there were distributed by EMI, under an agreement by Beggars Banquet subsidiary XL Recordings. (I'm a fan of both.)
The Specials' back catalogue is also tied in with EMI, but the band themselves aren't supportive of this, it was basically a gun-to-the-head situation. To be fair, Lily has sung on stage with the Specials, who are ska legends here in the UK.
The Kinks aren't EMI as far as I know. Castle Communications, I believe, handles their stuff.
Jay-Z I'm sure isn't EMI either.
I really really hope this story flies. I hope she's in big trouble for it, because I can't stand hypocrites. Thing is, the media here are talking about her decision to "quit music" in that very blog. Please spread the news about her own MP3 piracy as far and as wide as you can! :-D
"It's her choice whether she wants to give away some of her music or not"
That is 100% correct.
However, given that I discovered Lily Allen is distributing the music of The Kinks, The Specials and Jay-Z directly from her website, and reported it to this very blog, can you tell me how it's her rightful choice to give away the music of these artists?
I like Lily Allen's music, but boy, she's proven herself to be a complete hypocrite.
On the post: Microsoft Patents Changing User Privileges Temporarily On The Fly
Re: Re:
PLENTY of prior art there!
On the post: Convicted German Murderer Wants His Conviction Erased From Wikipedia
Re: I'm sorry, do you have a German law degree?
You bring up mentioning the Nazis under Germany law, yet this applies only to glorifying the regime. You can of course mention "Nazis", otherwise history book publishers would be out of business.
I'm against censorship laws, they serve no good in the long run. It's a good thing they're being ridiculed and ignored on this site, as well as German websites!
Still, none of this will bring Bavarian actor Walter Sedlmayr from the dead, as he has been murdered by murderer Wolfgang Werle and his half-brother Manfred Lauber, also a murderer.
On the post: Convicted German Murderer Wants His Conviction Erased From Wikipedia
Re: Re: Re: Let me get this straight?
On the post: A Song For Lily Allen... And A Little Conversation
Re: Lay off
Those are words I would use to describe the way Lily Allen decided to label filesharers as "thieves".
"she's not likely to stay around to debate if she's feeling insulted right off the bat."
I know, that's exactly why she left. TechDirt and other blogs proved her wrong, she falsely called it "abuse". End of story, really.
"You're coming across as self-righteous, and I can understand why it would be seen as an attack rather than debate."
Compared to the ludicrous and incredibly exaggerated things Lily was saying about internet users, Mike has been highly civil.
On the post: A Song For Lily Allen... And A Little Conversation
Re: Re: Re:
To be fair, it's a very cynical IT blog, and has been known to offend people on both sides of the filesharing debate.
On the post: Lily Allen Distributing Tons Of Copyrighted Music; Blows Way Past Three Strikes
Re:
They were literally .mp3 files put on her site. No way of tracking them via a third party, unlike legal downloads (iTunes, Amazon, Play.com) which are vetted by an indepedent agency. Ask yourself why they're now deleted when TechDirt reported on them.
Don't be angry that the blogosphere once again triumphed over the newspapers.
The newspapers are full of waffle about Lily "quitting music" - which turned out to be false, a deliberate lie from Lily/EMI which would get attention away from her illegal MP3s.
Blogs 1. Newspapers 0.
On the post: A Song For Lily Allen... And A Little Conversation
Re:
(Clue: criticism != hatred.)
On the post: A Song For Lily Allen... And A Little Conversation
Re: Your sin
And you know who has taken on her role?
No, neither do I!
It's because virtually everyone realises it was absolutely stupid to accuse music fans of being thieves. Lily got silenced, but did some spinning to make it look like she was being abused. My blog entry (kindly linked in this TechDirt article) proves what really happened.
On the post: A Song For Lily Allen... And A Little Conversation
Re:
Here are their comments, which I disagree with...
Allen had pasted a story from anti-copyright site TechDirt - which suddenly and quite miraculously discovered the power of copyright. Bit of a learning curve for everyone, then.
We've got some mail about that.
"Presumably that loud cracking noise in the background is the smiles breaking out on the fossilised faces of the FAC members," writes Tim Cuthill.
Single issue fanatics like TechDirt's Mike Masnick don't want P2P to go legit, which is the obvious and progressive solution, but for creators' rights to be abolished, leaving artists to sell T-shirts and play live."
Full article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/25/lily_allen/
On the post: A Song For Lily Allen... And A Little Conversation
Re: Dan Bull
I very much doubt it would be given legal permission by Lily/EMI for a release!
But hell yeah, I'd like to buy it too!
On the post: A Teaching Moment For Lily Allen [Update: And *Poof* Goes Her Blog]
Re:
Let's not forget Lily wanted to criminalise her own fans. The proposals she campaigned for, would sever the internet connections of hundreds of thousands, if not millions. And, as I pointed out, she'd have her own connection cut off, rather ironically.
I do NOT sanction the abuse she got. I did see comments on the blog calling her a "skank" and a "ho", which is just juvenile. It doesn't mean to say that all pro-filesharers act like that.
The conclusion is that us we won. Yes, the "keyboard anarchists" did. Lily lied several times in that blog, about the music industry shrinking, the contents of the mixtapes, etc.
Following Lily's own logic would see herself facing legal action, but most of her opponents wrote some incredibly insightful stuff and put her straight.
I cannot see how anyone could see this as a win for Miss Allen. Unless they're in the pocket of the record labels...
On the post: A Teaching Moment For Lily Allen [Update: And *Poof* Goes Her Blog]
30 seconds to 1 minute in length?
Absolute rubbish, I downloaded the mixtape MP3s last night (I wonder if they're gone now), I'm listening to them right now. Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks is there IN FULL, among many other songs. Only a small handful are in there under one minute.
Lily, don't lie to me.
On the post: Lily Allen Distributing Tons Of Copyrighted Music; Blows Way Past Three Strikes
Re: This might do it!
Really chuffed how this story has made it to torrentfreak.com, and is doing massively well on Twitter. I did do some commenting on Lily's blog, but it's things like Techdirt and Digg which can really propel revelations like this around the world, and hopefully make a difference. I love reading TechDirt, it's pretty much bang-on 98% of the time!
On the post: Some Questions For Lily Allen
Re: Re: Lily Allen distributes copyright music by famous acts...
The Specials' back catalogue is also tied in with EMI, but the band themselves aren't supportive of this, it was basically a gun-to-the-head situation. To be fair, Lily has sung on stage with the Specials, who are ska legends here in the UK.
The Kinks aren't EMI as far as I know. Castle Communications, I believe, handles their stuff.
Jay-Z I'm sure isn't EMI either.
I really really hope this story flies. I hope she's in big trouble for it, because I can't stand hypocrites. Thing is, the media here are talking about her decision to "quit music" in that very blog. Please spread the news about her own MP3 piracy as far and as wide as you can! :-D
On the post: Some Questions For Lily Allen
Re: Choice
Next >>