There is two things Gawker could have done to avoid getting sued.
1: Just post the still images as was suggested 2: Not leak out key lines in the tape that ruined Hogan's career.
Those two things would have kept the lawsuit from happening.
Pretty simple.
Oh, and ignoring a judge's order to take down the video, that was pretty bad, especially when they put up a headline that went "Judge Orders us to take down the sex tape, but we won't"
You DON'T thumb your nose at the Judicial Branch of the government like that.
I know you're a huge advocate of privacy, you've done PLENTY of rants about smart phones should be under the protection of the 4th Amendment before.
I know you're also a huge advocate of the 1st Amendment, as seen here where you're worried that it will get eroded from this.
Is Hogan's right to privacy and freedom of speech, both the sex video and what he said on the tape, and by proxy everyone's right to privacy and freedom of speech, less important than the media reporting on it or dragging it through the mud?
Because, what's to stop the next Gawker from getting private recordings in a person's private home, putting that information out there and ruining a person's life?
I dunno about you, but that's far more terrifying than what Gawker's going through right now.
Mike, I know you're worried about the fact that Gawker got sued out of existence, but lemme say this...
You don't have anything to worry about.
1: Gawker didn't just report on the fact that Hogan had sex with his neighbor/friend's wife, they uploaded the sex vid and ignored it when the Judge said to take it down (they did later, but had it on a different hosting site then linked to it). Had they just gone and reported on it, this wouldn't be a problem.
If you were into celebrity gossip, which you're not, and all you do is report on stuff and not link to things like what Gawker did, then you're just reporting on what you've heard/seen.
2: Hogan said the N-word in some sort of privately recorded tape. Somehow that got out to the public and Hogan lost his job.
Gee, I wonder who could have had it.
You and other sites that only report on news have nothing to worry about from this court case.
Tabloid businesses that don't do journalism, that go out to intentionally destroy people's careers and cause emotional harm...
Do they really deserve to be around?
After all, Matt Taylor landed a rocket on a comet and all he'll ever be remembered for is that shirt he wore.
Just do actual journalism, Mike. That's all you and others have to do.
Gawker has, in its history, intentionally gone after people to destroy their careers, their reputations and their lives while laughing about it, they don't care one bit.
BTW, did Thiel pay off the jury to get the verdict or did he just fund the lawsuit?
If he did the former, then, yeah, it's an assault on free speech.
If all he did was the latter, well, that's perfectly acceptable.
Or are you against the ACLU and other organizations doing the same thing for others?
Yes, I know, they do it for different reasons.
But, that's all. I mean, it's not like Gawker would ever stoop to going after random people and force said people to self-censor what they would post to facebook or twitter because they'd have to worry if Gawker would use what they say to ruin their lives, careers and reputation, right?
Not to mention that there's plenty of aggregate sites out there that'll just copy things word-for-word and post it so you can read without going there.
I think we've hit a point where it might be better to just burn the copyright system to the ground and go back to the pre-copyright format that people like Shakespeare went through.
Look at Blizzard, illegally uploading streams of their own content. How dare they?! They should have to pay the movie, music and television studios billions of dollars in damages because... Because... Because copyright, that's why!
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1: Just post the still images as was suggested
2: Not leak out key lines in the tape that ruined Hogan's career.
Those two things would have kept the lawsuit from happening.
Pretty simple.
Oh, and ignoring a judge's order to take down the video, that was pretty bad, especially when they put up a headline that went "Judge Orders us to take down the sex tape, but we won't"
You DON'T thumb your nose at the Judicial Branch of the government like that.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Mike It's Not About Thiel
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Re: Re: Re: Mike It's Not About Thiel
I know you're a huge advocate of privacy, you've done PLENTY of rants about smart phones should be under the protection of the 4th Amendment before.
I know you're also a huge advocate of the 1st Amendment, as seen here where you're worried that it will get eroded from this.
Is Hogan's right to privacy and freedom of speech, both the sex video and what he said on the tape, and by proxy everyone's right to privacy and freedom of speech, less important than the media reporting on it or dragging it through the mud?
Because, what's to stop the next Gawker from getting private recordings in a person's private home, putting that information out there and ruining a person's life?
I dunno about you, but that's far more terrifying than what Gawker's going through right now.
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Re: Re: Mike It's Not About Thiel
You don't have anything to worry about.
1: Gawker didn't just report on the fact that Hogan had sex with his neighbor/friend's wife, they uploaded the sex vid and ignored it when the Judge said to take it down (they did later, but had it on a different hosting site then linked to it). Had they just gone and reported on it, this wouldn't be a problem.
If you were into celebrity gossip, which you're not, and all you do is report on stuff and not link to things like what Gawker did, then you're just reporting on what you've heard/seen.
2: Hogan said the N-word in some sort of privately recorded tape. Somehow that got out to the public and Hogan lost his job.
Gee, I wonder who could have had it.
You and other sites that only report on news have nothing to worry about from this court case.
Tabloid businesses that don't do journalism, that go out to intentionally destroy people's careers and cause emotional harm...
Do they really deserve to be around?
After all, Matt Taylor landed a rocket on a comet and all he'll ever be remembered for is that shirt he wore.
Just do actual journalism, Mike. That's all you and others have to do.
Gawker has, in its history, intentionally gone after people to destroy their careers, their reputations and their lives while laughing about it, they don't care one bit.
BTW, did Thiel pay off the jury to get the verdict or did he just fund the lawsuit?
If he did the former, then, yeah, it's an assault on free speech.
If all he did was the latter, well, that's perfectly acceptable.
Or are you against the ACLU and other organizations doing the same thing for others?
Yes, I know, they do it for different reasons.
But, that's all. I mean, it's not like Gawker would ever stoop to going after random people and force said people to self-censor what they would post to facebook or twitter because they'd have to worry if Gawker would use what they say to ruin their lives, careers and reputation, right?
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This is why...
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Well I'm certain then...
Hey, it's out there in the open, in public, you can't expect privacy there.
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Seriously, WTF? They should have to pay royalties to use someone's IP for the rest of time just like the rest of us.
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I'd say it's Karmic Justice of some sort.
Granted, it still blows and this isn't right, but I laugh at them for this.
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How do they sleep at night?
On piles of money.
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Oh joy...
And he uses the "I was only pretending to be a moron" defense.
Sheesh, that dumbass.
*While I can't prove he's the one who sent the bomb threats to Washington D.C., the timing sure was suspicious.
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So, what they're saying is...
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You know...
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It's obviously working!
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What kind of standards does the WSJ have when it allows such false arguments to be published uncritically?
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Re: What the patch does
PC Gamers got HOSED on this update.
And people wonder why I stick with consoles.
P.S. Nothing wrong with gaming on the PC, I just prefer consoles, that is all.
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