I don't think they were looking for sympathy from people who didn't know the girl, quite the opposite I suspect, they just created a page where memories, thoughts and sympathy can be easily written down and shared by all involved.
Is it wrong to expect as much?
Call me niaive, but they probably expected the girls friends to post sympathy or amusing stories of what they got up to or other memories - Sharing grief is a well practiced method of relieving grief.
I don't know, there's the right to free speech, but there's also slander/libel laws, I don't think the girl in question "fell asleep on the railway line" so at what point does free speech turn into slander/libel? (in the UK internet ‘libel’ has been judged to be more akin to slander, hence the use of “slander/libel” - http://www.lawdit.co.uk/reading_room/room/view_article.asp?name=../articles/5176-Bulletin-Boards-Sla nder-Or-Libel.htm)
Seperately, if you go by the charge, if this wasn't meant as an attack then what was the point, getting laughs by someone else's misfortune has often been the staple diet of stand up comedians, getting laughs out of someone’s untimely death, I would suggest, probably wouldn't go down so well.
He defaced a memorial, which in this case was through the medium of messages on a web page.
Perhaps a more fitting example other than kicking over headstones would be to poster over the headstones with abusive/offensive comments.
The UK could always do 'A France' and agree to all EU Laws, make sure every other country within the EU abides, but cunningly, overlook the fact France fails to abide by many of them itself.... foolproof!!
it was an empire, and it was the British Empire, not the United Kingdom Empire - It was possibly evil, but only in line with what is considered evil today, at the time what it did was the norm - just have a read on the French Empire, or the Ottoman Empire of rcomparison, the only difference is that the British Empire was the biggest (once)
As a side note, if this was said about the royal family in the UK the law still states that this would be a capital crime, the only one remaining in the UK - Treason.
Which to quote the original law, circa 1351AD (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110914/02380815946/internet-troll-jailed-uk-being-jerk-online.sh tml?threaded=true#c614) :
The original law said: "When a Man doth compass or imagine the Death of our Lord the King, or of our Lady his Queen or of their eldest Son and Heir; or if a Man do violate the King's Companion, or the King's eldest Daughter unmarried, or the Wife the King's eldest Son and Heir; or if a Man do levy War against our Lord the King in his Realm, or be adherent to the King's Enemies in his Realm, giving to them Aid and Comfort in the Realm."
Or rather what the law actually said was in Norman French, but put succinctly in English, you can't kill, conspire against or wage war against the king and his family. You also can't have sex with his wife, heir's wife or his unmarried eldest daughter. And the act goes on to rule out actions against the chancellor, treasurer and various categories of senior judge
"[To] be drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution and there be hanged by the neck, but not until they are dead, but that they should be taken down again, and that when they are yet alive their bowels should be taken out and burnt before their faces, and that afterwards their heads should be severed from their bodies, and their bodies be divided into four quarters, and their heads and quarters to be at the King's disposal."
actually, they wouldn't have to lie, there's all sorts of get out's in the UK law around provocation - Depending on the level of damage done, and that's a grey area too, "reasonable force" and other such measuring scales with no actual scalable measurements, so then it's down to the police to decide what was reasonable and after that, the judge then the appeal judge(s).
This may be restricting free speech, but when free speech restricts other's freedom (to grieve for instance, or to try to rebuild their emotional state to something getting near normal) then there has to be some way to stop it, doesn't there?
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I thought it was sell ice to the eskimo's - who I think prefer to be grouped as inuit's - though again I'm not sure, I think there was a who-har about 'Eskimo' now being considered racist, not that I care, I just haven't posted in a while...
The child might own the copyright but cannot make any money from it as it was 'obtained' in the act of a crime - namely stealing the camera. Any profits made as a result of this crime have to be passed on or compensated to the victim of said crime. So it doesn't really matter who owns the copyright as only the camera owner can profit from them.
Or at least that's how it works in the UK.
I only asked the question, and it's a registered charity so yes, I guess I do mean the "Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation"
Charity - Definition (from WordIQ.com)
Charity is a term in Christian theology (one of the three virtues), meaning loving kindness towards others; it is held to be the ultimate perfection of the human spirit, because it is said to both glorify and reflect the nature of God. In its most extreme form charity can be self-sacrificial. Charity is one conventional English translation of the Greek term agape.
Charity is the short form for charitable trust, a charitable foundation, or a corporation set up entirely for charitable purposes. These are set up for specific causes, such as curing diseases; providing goods or services for people or areas that lack them; nature conservation; and many others. In some countries (including the UK, Canada, Australia, and the United States) a charitable organization needs, by law, to register with the government. This is to reduce the possibilities of fraud and increase the opportunities for charities to receive tax breaks; it also indirectly allows the government to influence the scope and agenda of charities (e.g. RSPCA Told to Put Human Needs Before Animal Pain (http://www.webtribe.net/~animadversion/RSPCA%20put%20human%20needs.htm)).
Charity can also refer to the act of giving money, goods or time to such a charitable trust or other worthy cause.
In Greek Mythology, the Charites (note: not Charities, the proper plural of Charity) were the goddesses of charm, beauty, nature, human creativity and fertility; also better known as the Graces. See Charites.
Charity is also used as a forename.
I have no idea about whether or not the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is "for political causes disguised as charity" - I'm presuming not but then I'm sure I'll be proven wrong by some know it all AC...
All this for what I thought was just a chuckle comment and a chance to tell the karma joke (VERY difficult to link in to most conversations), which, I might add, has been completely ignored - I will probably lose sleep now worrying about it all.....
Surely this is a case of the LEAST misleading title, as some people constantly accuse TD of being misleading by their titles will surely appreciate...
Or maybe not, maybe TD will be pulled up for being too accurate now...
Didn't Gates give away most of his (personal) wealth to charity.... possibly to try and buy good karma before his mortal coil faces the "blue screen of death"?
if we're on bad jokes:
Bad Karma..... ran over my Dogma......
Apparently Gaddafi reckons that Cameron should now step down, so some of the people above may be correct in their comparison of rioters looting and stealing for personal gain in London (and various other cities now) and the insurgent struggle against the regime/dictatorship that is currently happening in Libya:
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Is it wrong to expect as much?
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Seperately, if you go by the charge, if this wasn't meant as an attack then what was the point, getting laughs by someone else's misfortune has often been the staple diet of stand up comedians, getting laughs out of someone’s untimely death, I would suggest, probably wouldn't go down so well.
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Re: Re: This is not a violation of free speech.
Perhaps a more fitting example other than kicking over headstones would be to poster over the headstones with abusive/offensive comments.
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Re: Re: Treason?
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/search_companies_and_isps_may_be_asked_by_gov_to_t ackle_copyright_infringement/
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Re: this is why we declared independence
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Treason?
Which to quote the original law, circa 1351AD (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110914/02380815946/internet-troll-jailed-uk-being-jerk-online.sh tml?threaded=true#c614) :
The original law said: "When a Man doth compass or imagine the Death of our Lord the King, or of our Lady his Queen or of their eldest Son and Heir; or if a Man do violate the King's Companion, or the King's eldest Daughter unmarried, or the Wife the King's eldest Son and Heir; or if a Man do levy War against our Lord the King in his Realm, or be adherent to the King's Enemies in his Realm, giving to them Aid and Comfort in the Realm."
Or rather what the law actually said was in Norman French, but put succinctly in English, you can't kill, conspire against or wage war against the king and his family. You also can't have sex with his wife, heir's wife or his unmarried eldest daughter. And the act goes on to rule out actions against the chancellor, treasurer and various categories of senior judge
"[To] be drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution and there be hanged by the neck, but not until they are dead, but that they should be taken down again, and that when they are yet alive their bowels should be taken out and burnt before their faces, and that afterwards their heads should be severed from their bodies, and their bodies be divided into four quarters, and their heads and quarters to be at the King's disposal."
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This may be restricting free speech, but when free speech restricts other's freedom (to grieve for instance, or to try to rebuild their emotional state to something getting near normal) then there has to be some way to stop it, doesn't there?
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Just coward it is then (A)C numero uno...
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Profit from crime?
Or at least that's how it works in the UK.
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Charity - Definition (from WordIQ.com)
Charity is a term in Christian theology (one of the three virtues), meaning loving kindness towards others; it is held to be the ultimate perfection of the human spirit, because it is said to both glorify and reflect the nature of God. In its most extreme form charity can be self-sacrificial. Charity is one conventional English translation of the Greek term agape.
Charity is the short form for charitable trust, a charitable foundation, or a corporation set up entirely for charitable purposes. These are set up for specific causes, such as curing diseases; providing goods or services for people or areas that lack them; nature conservation; and many others. In some countries (including the UK, Canada, Australia, and the United States) a charitable organization needs, by law, to register with the government. This is to reduce the possibilities of fraud and increase the opportunities for charities to receive tax breaks; it also indirectly allows the government to influence the scope and agenda of charities (e.g. RSPCA Told to Put Human Needs Before Animal Pain (http://www.webtribe.net/~animadversion/RSPCA%20put%20human%20needs.htm)).
Charity can also refer to the act of giving money, goods or time to such a charitable trust or other worthy cause.
In Greek Mythology, the Charites (note: not Charities, the proper plural of Charity) were the goddesses of charm, beauty, nature, human creativity and fertility; also better known as the Graces. See Charites.
Charity is also used as a forename.
I have no idea about whether or not the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is "for political causes disguised as charity" - I'm presuming not but then I'm sure I'll be proven wrong by some know it all AC...
All this for what I thought was just a chuckle comment and a chance to tell the karma joke (VERY difficult to link in to most conversations), which, I might add, has been completely ignored - I will probably lose sleep now worrying about it all.....
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Misleading?
Or maybe not, maybe TD will be pulled up for being too accurate now...
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Re: Money can't buy happiness?
Alexis Jordan - Happiness
http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Track/4-/17150131/Happiness/Product.html?aid=171 49343&searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=happiness+alexis&urlrefer=s earch
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if we're on bad jokes:
Bad Karma..... ran over my Dogma......
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That Gaddafi fella is a riot!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8694505/UK-riots-Gaddafi-calls-on-David-Camer on-to-step-down-over-rioting.html
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