That’s the difference between you and me, you lunatic: I’m well aware of both the time I’m wasting here and how utterly worthless I am.
I’ll likely never be as successful as the Wordle guy, and I’m okay with that. I’m not out here trying to claim that what he did was somehow illegal or implying that he needs to be executed for not being a copyright extremist. I’m merely telling you that you’ll never be as successful as him, too.
I’m not gonna die mad about it. You are, though. You’re already mad about people being more successful than you because of your admitted inability to work with anyone else on the planet. You’re mad because people are out there making free-to-use software that’s working as intended and you have to keep making excuses about why Meshpage can’t even get the software review equivalent of a pity fuck. You’re angry because nobody else thinks you’re the Rick Sanchez of this world, and in reality, you’re barely even a Jerry Smith. (I know I’m a Jerry, and I’ve made peace with that.)
You will never be rich. You will never be famous. You will die alone, unloved and unremembered by anyone who isn’t your direct family. Your name will fade into dust mere seconds after what will pass for your funeral, and not even the Internet will care enough to piss on your grave (in cyber- or meatspace). And for all your attempts to turn all this back on me, you won’t be able to affect me because I already know all of that shit will apply to me as well. You can’t hurt me, you can’t make me feel any worse about myself than I already do, and you will never be able to do anything more than make me waste a few minutes of my time here and there on an irregular basis.
By your own admission, you haven’t made any significant amount of money from Meshpage after all the years and years you’ve been working on it. The guy who made Wordle sold his wildly popular game for at least a million bucks in less than a year after he first published it to the web. He had more success with his software in a year than you have ever had with yours in any given span of time.
Not…really? I mean, if anything, they could’ve gone to the creators of any of the other games that inspired Wordle and bought them. They bought Wordle primarily because of its social media popularity.
And even if I were to agree with you that the NYT operated under your “copyright maximalist principles”: They still bought a free-to-play word game for at least a million dollars. Wordle did what you’ve always wanted to do (but can’t ever accomplish) with Meshpage—make serious money—and did so in less than a year. Die mad about it.
For this wordle ripoff guy to succeed, the original wordle app must be significantly worse.
I’m sure you’d like to believe that, but you’re wrong in this case. He legit ripped off Wordle—name included—and made it a pay-to-play app. Him bragging about it on social media was what led to him getting dragged on Twitter, his app getting removed, and him eventually making an expanded Wordle-like that might net him some money but won’t repair his reputation as a greedy exploitative asshole.
I don't see the necessary large organisation available in the original wordle that would be able to handle the popularity.
This is one of the reasons (if not the main reason) why the Wordle dev sold his game to the New York Times for at least a million dollars.
We should focus on why the original wordle is so popular.
It takes a few minutes (if that) to play a single game to completion. It offers a neat brainteaser challenge. It doesn’t try to sell you anything, since the site features no ads of any kind. It doesn’t force you to give up anything—money or information—to play. I get that you don’t understand any of those things, though, and I’m sorry about that.
The ripoff guy is going to the "riding on someone elses popularity". That's illegal practise too in copyright laws
Eh, that depends on the situation and the context.
The original wordle guy[ is] in significantly bigger trouble.
Not really. He sold the game to the New York Times, so they’re gonna be the ones controlling the game now. And if anyone who held the rights to the “prior art” that inspired Wordle wanted to go after the guy who made it, they would have already done so. Dude made a fun game inspired by other games and got paid a hefty sum for it after it went viral. It’s about the best ending he could’ve asked for.
Have you made a million dollars with your software yet, you dangerous omnicidal lunatic?
The game offering a button that automatically shares the high scores to 3 of your (randomly chosen) friends is illegal chain letter.
Wordle doesn’t do that. At all.
Not only is the “sharing results” aspect of the game completely voluntary and wholly optional, it only copies the results to your clipboard. You can paste it anywhere you want and share it with as few or as many people as you want, but you have to do so manually. The game doesn’t share results automatically, doesn’t connect with any social media service, doesn’t force other people to read your results (or share their own), and doesn’t compel other people to play the game.
Nothing about Wordle allowing you to share your results if you choose to do so is illegal, immoral, or unethical within the reality that everyone else but you lives in.
The illegal operation often do this exponential spreading of their system … by making sure users know some keyword like "wordle"
People talking about a game on social media is not “illegal”. People sharing their results of having played that game is not “illegal”.
Given that you actually used the word in your message, it proves that their system is working.
I can’t talk about the game without mentioning its name. And the process by which Wordle got big isn’t illegal; it used to be called “word of mouth” advertising, which…well, if that were illegal, so too would be reviews of any kind of entertainment. And I get it, you think that’d actually be a good thing—but you also want to kill every other form of life on the planet, so you’re an extreme outlier (and that’s the most charitable way I could put that).
So what? The game itself does no actual spamming. It doesn’t connect to or automatically share results on any social media service. Sharing the results requires an individual to voluntarily choose to share their results, and such sharing is wholly optional. Someone can play Wordle every day and not share their results at all.
And again: If Wordle “spam” could bring down social media services, those services would already be clamping down on that “spam”. That no major social media service has done so is a testament to how small an effect the sharing of Wordle results has on those services.
The practices I've heard from the wordie game are clearly directly from facebook training manual
No, they’re not. Sharing results from Wordle doesn’t start a spam chain that forces anyone else to share their results—or play the game, for that matter. (As I’ve said, the results copypasta doesn’t even include a link to Wordle.) Sharing those results is a wholly voluntary and completely optional after-game action; no one needs to share their results (or promise to do so) so they can play the game. The game doesn’t advertise anything (including itself) and it doesn’t have any functions that would make anyone advertise anything (including the game) on social media.
I understand that you’re jealous of a guy building a word game that was based on a fair bit of “prior art” and selling it for at least a million dollars within the space of a year while you’ve been working on your software for years with nothing to show for it but a comment history on this site that makes the typical troll brigade seem absolutely sane in comparison. But your jealousy—and your omnicidal hatred of all sentient life on Earth—is no reason to lie about anything Wordle does being “illegal”.
Go back to your hole, you dangerous lunatic, and stay there until the heat death of the universe.
Facebook also claimed their operation is legal, simply because it requires active participation of some end users for it to start spamming other users.
And if Wordle’s wholly optional and voluntary results-sharing feature worked that way, you might have a point. But it doesn’t. So you don’t.
The fact that wordie also keeps users engaged with once-per-day updates is another broken feature.
Are daily crosswords for newspapers (and their websites) “broken” because said newspapers publish a new crossword puzzle on a daily basis?
The volume of spam this system generates is simply too large.
Not…really? I mean, it’s one message per day that’s often far less than the character limit imposed by Twitter. Even multiplied by several thousands, it’s still completely manageable for a system that has many, many millions (if not billions) of messages posted on its system every day. Any Wordle “spam” on Twitter is likely dwarfed by the amount of actual spam on Twitter—and unlike actual spam, Wordle “spam” doesn’t advertise anything. (Sharing the results doesn’t even link back to the site Wordle is hosted on.)
The network operators are trying to hide their real impact to the world, but any time when their servers or activity is running faster than humans can handle, there's dangerous and illegal activity ongoing.
Again: If Wordle “spam” was actually doing that, you might have a point. But it’s not. So you don’t.
It's not acceptable that common operations inside the game are "expanding" their network size.
what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic
No, seriously, what the fuck do you think “word of mouth” is? Because that’s how Wordle grew to the point where the guy who made it could sell it for at least a million dollars: the social media equivalent of “word of mouth” advertising. And Wordle didn’t accomplish that with automated spamming or whatever you think it used to get big—it got big because other people voluntarily and manually shared their results on social media.
This network expansion trick is very popular nowadays because facebook got global network of users by applying huge spamming operations.
And if Wordle was/is intentionally and automatically spamming people in the same way Facebook did/does, you would have a point. But you don’t, because that isn’t happening.
This all reads like you’re upset that a fun little game went viral and sold for a million dollars to one of the most famous newspapers in the world because people willingly shared their results on social media when they didn’t have to do that at all. It comes off as jealousy towards someone who made a hit game and sold it for a seven-figure sum without doing all the shit you think is necessary for that to happen.
when users click "Back" key to get rid of the app, it'll happily use user's credientals to advertise the game to new audiences?
what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic
people will click back when they want nothing to do with the app
Or, you know, when they’re done with the daily puzzle and ready to do other things. The whole deal with Wordle is that it’s a once-per-day thing: People do the puzzle, share the results, and get on with their lives. Hell, the fact that the game was designed that way was—and still is—part of its broad appeal.
It's just natural place to put a spamming operation
Wordle doesn’t spam shit; people manually share their results on their own. That social aspect of the game—which is completely optional, mind you—is one of the reasons Wordle got popular enough to become a social media phenomenon.
it cannot even be disabled whenever courts decide the app has done enough damage
I repeat: what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic
Why would "causing damage" be acceptable business strategy?
It wouldn’t be, unless your name/brand has enough goodwill and positive associations with the general public that a little damage here and there wouldn’t affect that brand. (To wit: Nintendo.) For everyone who doesn’t have that luxury, “causing damage” is a horrible idea. The guy who made that ripoff Wordle can attest to that: No matter what else he does in the foreseeable future, he’ll still be “the Wordle ripoff guy” to a significant number of people, and all because he wanted to make a shitload of money by fooling people into thinking his Wordle app was the “official” app.
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I put all my shit in the public domain, bitch. Try and stop me.
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That’s the difference between you and me, you lunatic: I’m well aware of both the time I’m wasting here and how utterly worthless I am.
I’ll likely never be as successful as the Wordle guy, and I’m okay with that. I’m not out here trying to claim that what he did was somehow illegal or implying that he needs to be executed for not being a copyright extremist. I’m merely telling you that you’ll never be as successful as him, too.
I’m not gonna die mad about it. You are, though. You’re already mad about people being more successful than you because of your admitted inability to work with anyone else on the planet. You’re mad because people are out there making free-to-use software that’s working as intended and you have to keep making excuses about why Meshpage can’t even get the software review equivalent of a pity fuck. You’re angry because nobody else thinks you’re the Rick Sanchez of this world, and in reality, you’re barely even a Jerry Smith. (I know I’m a Jerry, and I’ve made peace with that.)
You will never be rich. You will never be famous. You will die alone, unloved and unremembered by anyone who isn’t your direct family. Your name will fade into dust mere seconds after what will pass for your funeral, and not even the Internet will care enough to piss on your grave (in cyber- or meatspace). And for all your attempts to turn all this back on me, you won’t be able to affect me because I already know all of that shit will apply to me as well. You can’t hurt me, you can’t make me feel any worse about myself than I already do, and you will never be able to do anything more than make me waste a few minutes of my time here and there on an irregular basis.
Die mad about it.
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You are not Rick Sanchez, you omnicidal lunatic. Go back to your hole.
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And none of them have given you the same level of financial success and fame as Wordle gave its developer. None of them ever will.
Die mad about it.
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I’m sure that, on some planet, this was funny.
Your problem is, this is Earth.
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And yet, Wordle and its developer will always be more successful than you will ever be.
Die mad about it.
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By your own admission, you haven’t made any significant amount of money from Meshpage after all the years and years you’ve been working on it. The guy who made Wordle sold his wildly popular game for at least a million bucks in less than a year after he first published it to the web. He had more success with his software in a year than you have ever had with yours in any given span of time.
Die mad about it.
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Not…really? I mean, if anything, they could’ve gone to the creators of any of the other games that inspired Wordle and bought them. They bought Wordle primarily because of its social media popularity.
And even if I were to agree with you that the NYT operated under your “copyright maximalist principles”: They still bought a free-to-play word game for at least a million dollars. Wordle did what you’ve always wanted to do (but can’t ever accomplish) with Meshpage—make serious money—and did so in less than a year. Die mad about it.
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And he was bragging about his blatant exploitative greed on social media. That sure as hell didn’t help him.
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Come on, man, this is tp we’re talking about here.
He’d have those people executed.
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Yes, yes, we get it—you think anything that doesn’t exclusively put money in your pockets should be illegal.
One of the biggest newspapers in the world bought a wildly popular free-to-play word game for at least a million dollars. Die mad about it.
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Translation: “Word-of-mouth advertising is evil and should be abolished forever because no one should get to talk about the things they like.”
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I’m sure you’d like to believe that, but you’re wrong in this case. He legit ripped off Wordle—name included—and made it a pay-to-play app. Him bragging about it on social media was what led to him getting dragged on Twitter, his app getting removed, and him eventually making an expanded Wordle-like that might net him some money but won’t repair his reputation as a greedy exploitative asshole.
This is one of the reasons (if not the main reason) why the Wordle dev sold his game to the New York Times for at least a million dollars.
It takes a few minutes (if that) to play a single game to completion. It offers a neat brainteaser challenge. It doesn’t try to sell you anything, since the site features no ads of any kind. It doesn’t force you to give up anything—money or information—to play. I get that you don’t understand any of those things, though, and I’m sorry about that.
Eh, that depends on the situation and the context.
Not really. He sold the game to the New York Times, so they’re gonna be the ones controlling the game now. And if anyone who held the rights to the “prior art” that inspired Wordle wanted to go after the guy who made it, they would have already done so. Dude made a fun game inspired by other games and got paid a hefty sum for it after it went viral. It’s about the best ending he could’ve asked for.
Have you made a million dollars with your software yet, you dangerous omnicidal lunatic?
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Wordle doesn’t do that. At all.
Not only is the “sharing results” aspect of the game completely voluntary and wholly optional, it only copies the results to your clipboard. You can paste it anywhere you want and share it with as few or as many people as you want, but you have to do so manually. The game doesn’t share results automatically, doesn’t connect with any social media service, doesn’t force other people to read your results (or share their own), and doesn’t compel other people to play the game.
Nothing about Wordle allowing you to share your results if you choose to do so is illegal, immoral, or unethical within the reality that everyone else but you lives in.
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People talking about a game on social media is not “illegal”. People sharing their results of having played that game is not “illegal”.
I can’t talk about the game without mentioning its name. And the process by which Wordle got big isn’t illegal; it used to be called “word of mouth” advertising, which…well, if that were illegal, so too would be reviews of any kind of entertainment. And I get it, you think that’d actually be a good thing—but you also want to kill every other form of life on the planet, so you’re an extreme outlier (and that’s the most charitable way I could put that).
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So what? The game itself does no actual spamming. It doesn’t connect to or automatically share results on any social media service. Sharing the results requires an individual to voluntarily choose to share their results, and such sharing is wholly optional. Someone can play Wordle every day and not share their results at all.
And again: If Wordle “spam” could bring down social media services, those services would already be clamping down on that “spam”. That no major social media service has done so is a testament to how small an effect the sharing of Wordle results has on those services.
No, they’re not. Sharing results from Wordle doesn’t start a spam chain that forces anyone else to share their results—or play the game, for that matter. (As I’ve said, the results copypasta doesn’t even include a link to Wordle.) Sharing those results is a wholly voluntary and completely optional after-game action; no one needs to share their results (or promise to do so) so they can play the game. The game doesn’t advertise anything (including itself) and it doesn’t have any functions that would make anyone advertise anything (including the game) on social media.
I understand that you’re jealous of a guy building a word game that was based on a fair bit of “prior art” and selling it for at least a million dollars within the space of a year while you’ve been working on your software for years with nothing to show for it but a comment history on this site that makes the typical troll brigade seem absolutely sane in comparison. But your jealousy—and your omnicidal hatred of all sentient life on Earth—is no reason to lie about anything Wordle does being “illegal”.
Go back to your hole, you dangerous lunatic, and stay there until the heat death of the universe.
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And if Wordle’s wholly optional and voluntary results-sharing feature worked that way, you might have a point. But it doesn’t. So you don’t.
Are daily crosswords for newspapers (and their websites) “broken” because said newspapers publish a new crossword puzzle on a daily basis?
Not…really? I mean, it’s one message per day that’s often far less than the character limit imposed by Twitter. Even multiplied by several thousands, it’s still completely manageable for a system that has many, many millions (if not billions) of messages posted on its system every day. Any Wordle “spam” on Twitter is likely dwarfed by the amount of actual spam on Twitter—and unlike actual spam, Wordle “spam” doesn’t advertise anything. (Sharing the results doesn’t even link back to the site Wordle is hosted on.)
Again: If Wordle “spam” was actually doing that, you might have a point. But it’s not. So you don’t.
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what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic
No, seriously, what the fuck do you think “word of mouth” is? Because that’s how Wordle grew to the point where the guy who made it could sell it for at least a million dollars: the social media equivalent of “word of mouth” advertising. And Wordle didn’t accomplish that with automated spamming or whatever you think it used to get big—it got big because other people voluntarily and manually shared their results on social media.
And if Wordle was/is intentionally and automatically spamming people in the same way Facebook did/does, you would have a point. But you don’t, because that isn’t happening.
This all reads like you’re upset that a fun little game went viral and sold for a million dollars to one of the most famous newspapers in the world because people willingly shared their results on social media when they didn’t have to do that at all. It comes off as jealousy towards someone who made a hit game and sold it for a seven-figure sum without doing all the shit you think is necessary for that to happen.
Welcome to the real world.
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what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic
Or, you know, when they’re done with the daily puzzle and ready to do other things. The whole deal with Wordle is that it’s a once-per-day thing: People do the puzzle, share the results, and get on with their lives. Hell, the fact that the game was designed that way was—and still is—part of its broad appeal.
Wordle doesn’t spam shit; people manually share their results on their own. That social aspect of the game—which is completely optional, mind you—is one of the reasons Wordle got popular enough to become a social media phenomenon.
I repeat: what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic
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It wouldn’t be, unless your name/brand has enough goodwill and positive associations with the general public that a little damage here and there wouldn’t affect that brand. (To wit: Nintendo.) For everyone who doesn’t have that luxury, “causing damage” is a horrible idea. The guy who made that ripoff Wordle can attest to that: No matter what else he does in the foreseeable future, he’ll still be “the Wordle ripoff guy” to a significant number of people, and all because he wanted to make a shitload of money by fooling people into thinking his Wordle app was the “official” app.
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