Agreed, there is some value to first rights which, by definition, is scarce.
This guy should publish some shorter/smaller pieces of work to build a fan base upon. Maybe publishing the first chapter of the book, or a 30-60 second preview of a song etc.
He can still sell the first rights but it would be for the whole body work (book, song, etc.) which has already been given some self promotion.
You just killed a troll by using your head, articulating well, and proving a Masnick concept to be true with your purchase, all in two small sentences!!
I take my daughters to the movies 3-4 times a year on average. Unlike most folks we are thrilled to still have a drive in theater in town! We get TWO first run movies for our ticket! PRICES: Adult (13+) $8.00. Juniors (5 - 12) with parent $4.00
The sound is fed through a local radio broadcast and you tune your car stereo in to the station for your sound, which you can adjust - at will - as often as you like. The seats are my own and I take them with me when I leave! I also bring a lawn chair and sit outside on warm summer nights and the kids bring a futon.
Tickets for TWO first run movies: $16
HUGE bag of popcorn we make at home: About $1
One (3) three liter bottle of soda: $1.50
Some candy we buy at the store: $4
20 piece Chicken nuggets: $5
Biggest bag of fries available: $2.50
Dinner and TWO movies with my girls - priceless!
The movie going public (just like the MUSIC loving public) have some serious options to exercise when it comes to our entertainment, how much we'll pay, and what we expect.
I honestly don't believe I'll EVER pay $30 for a rental...
Poker, chess, pinball - all have been proven in US Courts to NOT be games of chance, thereby allowing wagering between players so long as there is no cut of the pot involved (i.e. the house can't take a % or fixed amount from the pot).
I play professional tournaments for money in all three and have some first hand knowledge of how and why this is allowed.
The crux in poker is that players can win even if they don't hold the best hand, bluffing is a skill and can be done regardless of the cards you are dealt allowing you to still win through the use of skill.
Roger Sharpe proved pinball was also a game of skill to the NY City Council and single handedly helped overturn the ban on pinball in several states.
The San Diego Chess Club, of which I have been president of for 15+ years now, has had the local authorities visit because someone wasn't comfortable with players playing chess for money (anywhere from a quarter a game to five bucks a game playing blitz chess - 5 minutes on the clock for each player). When the police showed up they asked a couple of questions, essentially was all the money strictly between the players involved, and when told that it was they informed the complainant that there was nothing illegal going on even though it was in a city park (Balboa Park).
In their efforts to enforce copyright at the request of the entertainment industry which likes to lock things up forever they have spurred innovation in an entirely different field to help the masses avoid the tyrannical rule the media companies themselves so desire! I find it hilarious that the media companies shoot themselves in the foot so often then when they actually point the gun at the masses, they still end up shooting themselves in the other foot! All we need to do now is push the wheelchair bound industry down the stairs and be done with them! However, I suspect they will probably do this to themselves anyway so we can all just sit back and watch as the industry actually becomes the entertainment itself.
Ah yes, but without due process it is only a "claim", and nothing has been decided on a legal basis. This is why ICE is directly and intentionally overstepping the law and their authority and people just aren't happy when the government denies the citizens their legal rights as defined by the Constitution.
The problem here is the government is using the Constitution, more or less, as toilet paper and it's hard to know what your rights are anymore because there is so much shit in the way now!
You have been flagged for re-education. Please report with your family to Edutainment Pod R-5622. Also you will need to bring a list of all friends and family members, even acquaintances. They will need re-education as well.
Remember, it is every citizen's duty to report Entertainment License Violations to their local RIAA or MPAA office. If you hear it in a public place, it's probably illegal. Don't let the terrorists win. Do your duty!
Again you've missed the whole thought process part and went straight to the keyboard! Shoplifting involves theft of real property whereas copying/downloading something from the web doesn't actually remove anything - it merely makes a digital copy on my own drive, with my own property (the drive).
Since you and those of your ilk keep repeating this mantra of yours, I'll continue to post my usual reply...
Let's take the legal definitions (courtesy of Law.com)of both because neither mentions the other so I will just add you to the group of those who really just talk out of their ass because that's where their head rests. Theft involves TAKING something and infringement involves USING something, there is quite a bit of difference which I doubt you can see from in there.
theft
n. the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale). In many states, if the value of the property taken is low (for example, less than $500) the crime is "petty theft," but it is "grand theft" for larger amounts, designated misdemeanor or felony, respectively. Theft is synonymous with "larceny." Although robbery (taking by force), burglary (taken by entering unlawfully) and embezzlement (stealing from an employer) are all commonly thought of as theft, they are distinguished by the means and methods used and are separately designated as those types of crimes in criminal charges and statutory punishments.
See also: burglary embezzlement larceny robbery
infringement
n. 1) a trespassing or illegal entering. 2) in the law of patents (protected inventions) and copyrights (protected writings or graphics), the improper use of a patent, writing, graphic or trademark without permission, without notice, and especially without contracting for payment of a royalty. Even though the infringement may be accidental (an inventor thinks he is the first to develop the widget although someone else has a patent), the party infringing is responsible to pay the original patent or copyright owner substantial damages, which can be the normal royalty or as much as the infringers' accumulated gross profits.
See also: copyright patent plagiarism royalty trademark
Let's try this one more time:
T-H-E-F-T INVOLVES TAKING A PHYSICAL OBJECT FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, OFTEN DEPRIVING THE ORIGINAL HOLDER OF ITS PRESENCE!
I-N-F-R-I-N-G-E-M-E-N-T INVOLVES U-S-I-N-G SOMETHING AND NO ONE IS ABSENT ANY PROPERTY WHATSOEVER!
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This guy should publish some shorter/smaller pieces of work to build a fan base upon. Maybe publishing the first chapter of the book, or a 30-60 second preview of a song etc.
He can still sell the first rights but it would be for the whole body work (book, song, etc.) which has already been given some self promotion.
Nice post antimatter3009!
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Continue the troll massacre!
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Hell, they even have a vault to lock stuff up for ten years at a time so they can sell it again in the latest and greatest format!
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now we have the Sue-tards!
Luckily no one in Hollywood or running a theater, can complain about piracy here - so grab your homemade popcorn, sit back and watch the show folks!
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What does $30 get you in San Diego...
The sound is fed through a local radio broadcast and you tune your car stereo in to the station for your sound, which you can adjust - at will - as often as you like. The seats are my own and I take them with me when I leave! I also bring a lawn chair and sit outside on warm summer nights and the kids bring a futon.
Tickets for TWO first run movies: $16
HUGE bag of popcorn we make at home: About $1
One (3) three liter bottle of soda: $1.50
Some candy we buy at the store: $4
20 piece Chicken nuggets: $5
Biggest bag of fries available: $2.50
Dinner and TWO movies with my girls - priceless!
The movie going public (just like the MUSIC loving public) have some serious options to exercise when it comes to our entertainment, how much we'll pay, and what we expect.
I honestly don't believe I'll EVER pay $30 for a rental...
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I play professional tournaments for money in all three and have some first hand knowledge of how and why this is allowed.
The crux in poker is that players can win even if they don't hold the best hand, bluffing is a skill and can be done regardless of the cards you are dealt allowing you to still win through the use of skill.
Roger Sharpe proved pinball was also a game of skill to the NY City Council and single handedly helped overturn the ban on pinball in several states.
The San Diego Chess Club, of which I have been president of for 15+ years now, has had the local authorities visit because someone wasn't comfortable with players playing chess for money (anywhere from a quarter a game to five bucks a game playing blitz chess - 5 minutes on the clock for each player). When the police showed up they asked a couple of questions, essentially was all the money strictly between the players involved, and when told that it was they informed the complainant that there was nothing illegal going on even though it was in a city park (Balboa Park).
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ICE or Vanilla Ice?
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The problem here is the government is using the Constitution, more or less, as toilet paper and it's hard to know what your rights are anymore because there is so much shit in the way now!
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You have been flagged for re-education. Please report with your family to Edutainment Pod R-5622. Also you will need to bring a list of all friends and family members, even acquaintances. They will need re-education as well.
Remember, it is every citizen's duty to report Entertainment License Violations to their local RIAA or MPAA office. If you hear it in a public place, it's probably illegal. Don't let the terrorists win. Do your duty!
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Really?
Citation requested
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I work my @$$ off for two weeks at a time and I have to wait until payday before I see a cent.
Where do i sign up for this program you speak of?
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light a man on fire and he stays warm the rest of his life!!
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Since you and those of your ilk keep repeating this mantra of yours, I'll continue to post my usual reply...
Let's take the legal definitions (courtesy of Law.com)of both because neither mentions the other so I will just add you to the group of those who really just talk out of their ass because that's where their head rests. Theft involves TAKING something and infringement involves USING something, there is quite a bit of difference which I doubt you can see from in there.
theft
n. the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale). In many states, if the value of the property taken is low (for example, less than $500) the crime is "petty theft," but it is "grand theft" for larger amounts, designated misdemeanor or felony, respectively. Theft is synonymous with "larceny." Although robbery (taking by force), burglary (taken by entering unlawfully) and embezzlement (stealing from an employer) are all commonly thought of as theft, they are distinguished by the means and methods used and are separately designated as those types of crimes in criminal charges and statutory punishments.
See also: burglary embezzlement larceny robbery
infringement
n. 1) a trespassing or illegal entering. 2) in the law of patents (protected inventions) and copyrights (protected writings or graphics), the improper use of a patent, writing, graphic or trademark without permission, without notice, and especially without contracting for payment of a royalty. Even though the infringement may be accidental (an inventor thinks he is the first to develop the widget although someone else has a patent), the party infringing is responsible to pay the original patent or copyright owner substantial damages, which can be the normal royalty or as much as the infringers' accumulated gross profits.
See also: copyright patent plagiarism royalty trademark
Let's try this one more time:
T-H-E-F-T INVOLVES TAKING A PHYSICAL OBJECT FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, OFTEN DEPRIVING THE ORIGINAL HOLDER OF ITS PRESENCE!
I-N-F-R-I-N-G-E-M-E-N-T INVOLVES U-S-I-N-G SOMETHING AND NO ONE IS ABSENT ANY PROPERTY WHATSOEVER!
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