"People don't look through patents for ideas that they're not allowed to implement regardless."
They are not looking so much for what they cannot do as for what others missed that can be done. Inventions produced in this way are often very valuable.
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Lets see if you can figure out how to prove or disprove your hypothesis.
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R&D starts before filing a patent and continues after. Significant delays to market come from FDA approval process.
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We considered patenting; we prepared a patent and it was nearly filed. Then I had an interaction with a big, multinational electronics company. I approached a guy at a conference and said, "We've got this patent coming up, would you be interested in sponsoring it over the years?" It's quite expensive to keep a patent alive for 20 years. The guy told me, "We are looking at graphene, and it might have a future in the long term. If after ten years we find it's really as good as it promises, we will put a hundred patent lawyers on it to write a hundred patents a day, and you will spend the rest of your life, and the gross domestic product of your little island, suing us." That's a direct quote."
"I considered this arrogant comment, and I realized how useful it was. There was no point in patenting graphene at that stage. You need to be specific: you need to have a specific application and an industrial partner. Unfortunately, in many countries, including this one, people think that applying for a patent is an achievement. In my case it would have been a waste of taxpayers' money."
Doesn't this tell how unethical big business has become?
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"people who shout that everyone deserves to get paid seem to miss."
The quote from the arrogant corporate stooge sounds much like what I heard.
What you seem to miss is that if people use the invention then and only then the inventor deserves to be paid. If they do not want to pay then they should not use the invention.
3) That one or more asset thieves will con the inventor.
4) That a large company will steal their invention.
5) That they will not be able to find a contingency litigator.
6) That the large company will forge evidence of prior art and not get caught. Examples of companies who have been caught are Microsoft in the Eolas case and RIM in the NTP case.
7) All litigation is a crap shoot and a hostile judge can torpedo and otherwise good case.
8) That a big corporate adversary will successfully lobby the USPTO to do their dirty by holding up a reexamination for many years.
9) And even when an inventor gets justice in the form of a court order the company who put them through living hell will pay people to tarnish the inventor's good name.
The companies which do this stuff need to be held accountable.
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Again, in exchange for teaching the inventor gets exclusive rights to the invention. The right to exclude or to charge for use is part of the deal.
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Inventors do use patents all the time to adjust big corporate attitudes. I most certainly did.
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If it had worked out others would have swept in and taken your market. In that case failing to get patent(s) would have been a disaster.
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"This conversation illustrates a problem with patents. They don't defend individual inventors, they defend corporate interests."
This is not true. Look at all the high profile cases which companies like Microsoft and Apple are losing. Solo inventors and small companies do successfully defend their patent property rights. That is why these big companies are whining about litigation. They are getting their tails kicked.
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"When you find a patent that teaches anything I will believe"
Every patent teaches something. I feel bad for you that you cannot comprehend this because it means you are missing a great opportunity.
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You said "At least I have my marbles..." which created a nice opening for my reply. Perhaps when you are trying to a smart ass you should consider what you have written before posting it.
One could argue that your creating an opportunity for the kind of reply you got was your own stupidity.
Maybe if you stop thinking with your gonads you can avoid similar situations in the future.
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"Now the potential for getting sued and the threat of getting sued for infringement is much harder to control for than the ability to control for various dangers of over-pressurizing an engine."
Actually that is not the case. Published patents make it easy to control this risk.
The problem is that many decades of being able to infringe with total impunity led to a very nasty culture in corporate circles. They claim they do not read patents because they have every intention of stealing. It seems that that culture exists in in other industries such as open source.
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"Nor do they produce things that nearly destroy society like The machine gun, the hydrogen bomb, the neutron bomb, etc."
Most advances have potential for destructive uses. And many are dangerous like the discussion of steam engines and high pressure steam (live steam). Another example would be early autoclaves which had spectacular and deadly failures.
That in no way diminishes their benefits. Weapons saved our collective tails in WW2. The neutron bomb is a considerable improvement over other nuclear weapons in that there is far less damage, especially radioactive contamination. While they may destroy an adversary they protect us.
In any event, my examples were about MRI, the pacemaker and the Laser, all of which have brought great benefits.
Are you willing to give up all the benefits because if you succeed in socializing inventions progress will slow greatly.
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The two marbles you have are not a good substitute for a well functioning brain:)
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Your reasoning is incredibly flawed. You say "Patents have no R&D value since companies get patents before they conduct any R&D.", which is not true because R&D is done first and that drives getting a patent.
"It's not like someone is special and can come up with an idea that no one else can. Especially someone like you when compared to engineers." Inventors are special, they produce the breakthroughs.
I spent much of my career working as an engineer and what made me good at it was that I have a multidisciplinary background.
"Why patent something if you can simply keep it a secret and still collect monopoly rents from its secrecy?"
The reason to patent is twofold:
1)If someone else is able to reverse engineer and files a patent and I was using trade secret then I would be subject to paying royalties. It is good public policy to give preferential treatment to those who teach their invention. So those who use trade secret may have a long term to use their invention but if someone figures out what the invention is, and once they see it implemented that is a likely outcome, the trade secret holder is in deep crap.
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Re: So your a business expert Mike, charging big money to review business plans !!..
"I note also you do not give any examples of companies that copy others that from that copying becoming market leaders in that field.
Can you think of any ?"
Microsoft - Apple - HP - Cisco - Micron - IBM - Intel
There is really quite a long list.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do You Want Inventions To See The Light Of Day?
"That's the problem with IP maximsits. They contribute nothing and then they claim that they have contributed something. See, patents are about as worthless as your contributions to this forum"
We contribute inventions and in the case of my Electrified Monorail control patents they drove $400 million a year in GNP, about 4000 jobs, half of which were in my home state over the life of the patents.
Or how about Dr Damadian who created the MRI industry?
That amounts to hundreds of thousands of jobs.
What about Gorden Gould, inventor of the Laser?
That is what inventors do for society, drive the creation of jobs.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Betamax v. VHS - All Marketing
"Nah, I was talking about you."
Perhaps your comment was a Freudian slip driven by your deepest fears?
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"willful infringement laws give people disincentive to study patents"
This is adolescent reasoning at its best.
This is only a problem if the information is used to infringe a patent. You will note that companies like Apple, Microsoft, RIM, Cisco, HP, Micron, Intel are often assessed double or treble damages for willfulness. That is why they created the story about mythological patent trolls as cover for their disreputable conduct.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
They are not looking so much for what they cannot do as for what others missed that can be done. Inventions produced in this way are often very valuable.
Ronald J. Riley,
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
Lets see if you can figure out how to prove or disprove your hypothesis.
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Re: Re: Re: exclude others
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
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Unethical Transnational Corporations
We considered patenting; we prepared a patent and it was nearly filed. Then I had an interaction with a big, multinational electronics company. I approached a guy at a conference and said, "We've got this patent coming up, would you be interested in sponsoring it over the years?" It's quite expensive to keep a patent alive for 20 years. The guy told me, "We are looking at graphene, and it might have a future in the long term. If after ten years we find it's really as good as it promises, we will put a hundred patent lawyers on it to write a hundred patents a day, and you will spend the rest of your life, and the gross domestic product of your little island, suing us." That's a direct quote."
"I considered this arrogant comment, and I realized how useful it was. There was no point in patenting graphene at that stage. You need to be specific: you need to have a specific application and an industrial partner. Unfortunately, in many countries, including this one, people think that applying for a patent is an achievement. In my case it would have been a waste of taxpayers' money."
Doesn't this tell how unethical big business has become?
Ronald J. Riley,
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Re: Re: Just a thought
The quote from the arrogant corporate stooge sounds much like what I heard.
What you seem to miss is that if people use the invention then and only then the inventor deserves to be paid. If they do not want to pay then they should not use the invention.
Inventors face several types of risk.
1) That the invention has no market.
2) That a fraudulent invention promoter will fleece the inventor. See www.InventorEd.org/caution/
3) That one or more asset thieves will con the inventor.
4) That a large company will steal their invention.
5) That they will not be able to find a contingency litigator.
6) That the large company will forge evidence of prior art and not get caught. Examples of companies who have been caught are Microsoft in the Eolas case and RIM in the NTP case.
7) All litigation is a crap shoot and a hostile judge can torpedo and otherwise good case.
8) That a big corporate adversary will successfully lobby the USPTO to do their dirty by holding up a reexamination for many years.
9) And even when an inventor gets justice in the form of a court order the company who put them through living hell will pay people to tarnish the inventor's good name.
The companies which do this stuff need to be held accountable.
Ronald J. Riley,
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
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Inventors do win with patents!!
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Re: Wait for patents
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Re: Re:
This is not true. Look at all the high profile cases which companies like Microsoft and Apple are losing. Solo inventors and small companies do successfully defend their patent property rights. That is why these big companies are whining about litigation. They are getting their tails kicked.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
Every patent teaches something. I feel bad for you that you cannot comprehend this because it means you are missing a great opportunity.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
One could argue that your creating an opportunity for the kind of reply you got was your own stupidity.
Maybe if you stop thinking with your gonads you can avoid similar situations in the future.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
Actually that is not the case. Published patents make it easy to control this risk.
The problem is that many decades of being able to infringe with total impunity led to a very nasty culture in corporate circles. They claim they do not read patents because they have every intention of stealing. It seems that that culture exists in in other industries such as open source.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Someone has to be original.
Most advances have potential for destructive uses. And many are dangerous like the discussion of steam engines and high pressure steam (live steam). Another example would be early autoclaves which had spectacular and deadly failures.
That in no way diminishes their benefits. Weapons saved our collective tails in WW2. The neutron bomb is a considerable improvement over other nuclear weapons in that there is far less damage, especially radioactive contamination. While they may destroy an adversary they protect us.
In any event, my examples were about MRI, the pacemaker and the Laser, all of which have brought great benefits.
Are you willing to give up all the benefits because if you succeed in socializing inventions progress will slow greatly.
Ronald J. Riley,
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Leapfroging
The two marbles you have are not a good substitute for a well functioning brain:)
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Re: Re: Re: exclude others
"It's not like someone is special and can come up with an idea that no one else can. Especially someone like you when compared to engineers." Inventors are special, they produce the breakthroughs.
I spent much of my career working as an engineer and what made me good at it was that I have a multidisciplinary background.
"Why patent something if you can simply keep it a secret and still collect monopoly rents from its secrecy?"
The reason to patent is twofold:
1)If someone else is able to reverse engineer and files a patent and I was using trade secret then I would be subject to paying royalties. It is good public policy to give preferential treatment to those who teach their invention. So those who use trade secret may have a long term to use their invention but if someone figures out what the invention is, and once they see it implemented that is a likely outcome, the trade secret holder is in deep crap.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
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Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
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Re: So your a business expert Mike, charging big money to review business plans !!..
Can you think of any ?"
Microsoft - Apple - HP - Cisco - Micron - IBM - Intel
There is really quite a long list.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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We contribute inventions and in the case of my Electrified Monorail control patents they drove $400 million a year in GNP, about 4000 jobs, half of which were in my home state over the life of the patents.
Or how about Dr Damadian who created the MRI industry?
That amounts to hundreds of thousands of jobs.
What about Gorden Gould, inventor of the Laser?
That is what inventors do for society, drive the creation of jobs.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Perhaps your comment was a Freudian slip driven by your deepest fears?
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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This is adolescent reasoning at its best.
This is only a problem if the information is used to infringe a patent. You will note that companies like Apple, Microsoft, RIM, Cisco, HP, Micron, Intel are often assessed double or treble damages for willfulness. That is why they created the story about mythological patent trolls as cover for their disreputable conduct.
Ronald J. Riley,
Speaking only on my own behalf.
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 - (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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