Re: ADP has "no legitimate reason for ADP to cut off Zenefits"? -- AT WILL.
ADP had a good reason. Network traffic management. Using their psychic abilities, they knew that in a week there would be a spike in traffic, and so began cutting off their own customers.
Initially, ADP claimed they had disabled our access because an unusual traffic spike on June 3-4 placed undue load on their servers. Interestingly, ADP actually started blocking clients from connecting their payroll with Zenefits about a week before this spike supposedly occurred.
And hurting your own customers is always good business!
placing a script on a public-facing web server as constituting implied consent for the public to copy the code
Placing a script on a public-facing web server, and making pages link to it* should be considered outright publication of the script to the world far and wide.
Oh yes, and AirTel is hosting the JavaScript code that they are inducing you to infringe.
Of course, as we have learned, hosting copyright infringing content is perfectly okay. The source of the infringement is never sought out. Rather the real crime is in linking to infringing material, or innocently indexing the web pages that contain the infringing material. Or thinking about infringement (as per the article).
(1) AirTel is modifying someone else's page in transit to you so that it will load the JavaScript into your browser, and
(2) AirTel's JavaScript code is copyrighted, and
(3) viewing it is a copyright infringement
Then didn't AirTel just induce you to commit said copyright infringement?
Shouldn't AirTel be suing themselves for 'enabling and facilitating' copyright infringement?
Isn't merely linking to infringing content an infringement? Thus AirTel is also guilty of inserting an infringing link into someone else's web page in transit to your browser -- and thus AirTel is doubly guilty of copyright infringement!
Wow, AirTel really sounds like a huge copyright infringer -- er, I mean thief -- who is stealing their own JavaScript code by making your browser load it! Each thieving download into someone's browser depletes the supply of originals of that JavaScript, so I can see why AirTel would be upset.
What I think you are saying, in short, is failure to consider 'fair use' or Section 230 of CDA (and other factors) prior to filing a lawsuit is a violation of Rule 11(b)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
But then this...
the court determines that Rule 11(b) has been violated, the court may impose an appropriate sanction on any attorney, law firm, or party that violated the rule or is responsible for the violation.
That's pretty cool. Such sanctions need to start being handed out like candy!
You're right. On further thinking, I suppose that when you manipulate web content that you should only be passing along, that is 'man in the middle', and when the code is for evil nefarious purposes that is 'attack'.
If that sounds familiar, that's because we wrote about that ridiculous law last year, noting that it would technically allow people to be put in jail for merely thinking about infringing someone's copyright.
I'd like to see them enforce not thinking about infringement.
How would you separate 'thinking about' infringing, vs thinking about fair use?
Maybe if you look like you are thinking about infringement, that is probable cause to detain you and obtain a confession.
Re: Just because criminals can claim "copyright", doesn't make copyright bad.
So then, just because some people use copyright to advance the useful arts and sciences (as per the US constitution) should not 'taint' all the other uses of copyright (eg, censorship, bullying, copyright-trolling, false DMCA takedowns sabotaging competing platforms, etc).
Your act also amounts to a criminal offence under the Indian Penal Code, 1860 and the Information Technology Act, 2000. This act of you have caused great damage to our client's business, as well as to its name and reputation, and although such looss cannot be compensated in terms of money, our client will be entitled to claim and recover from you substantial amount by way of compensation/damages.
I was expecting to see an additional paragraph:
We will forego any damage if you will help our wealthy client to move a large sum money out of the country in exchange for half the proceedes. Please to be sending us your bank account informations so we can be depositing the large sum into your account.
Don't you know you could get so much more traction by saying it is a gateway to Terrorism!
Better yet, just say that file sharing IS terrorism!
Since when is Hollywood shy about going over the top and jumping the shark, creating an implausible spectacle? Add some special effects and claim that file sharing will bring about the apocalypse. That might really move legislators into action on a gateway to nowhere.
File sharing costs the global economy $74 TRILLION -- which is way more than the global economic output, but who cares because... FILE SHARING!
Re: Re: Re: Surely /this/ time they won't ignore it, right?
Recursive pleadings are only infinite loops if Prenda has tail call optimization. Otherwise the court will have a stack overflow and this will come to an end.
Can you please give us a broad warrant that ORDERS the FBI to use stingray whenever the FBI feels like it. This court order valid for up to one quarter of a galactic turn, or whenever the FBI asks the court to withdraw the order -- whichever comes sooner.
Rockets were first used in plans for war before they were later used for peaceful weather, communications, GPS and cat photo satellites.
That doesn't mean rockets weren't worth throwing research money at. Lots of trial and error. No obvious, in the short term, commercial use. This is why DARPA is good for research projects that are worthwhile, potentially have many other useful applications, but have no present commercial motives to pursue.
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Re: discovery
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Re: Re: ADP has "no legitimate reason for ADP to cut off Zenefits"? -- AT WILL.
Just ask the RIAA / MPAA.
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Re: ADP has "no legitimate reason for ADP to cut off Zenefits"? -- AT WILL.
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The United States Congress Honors your Achievement
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Re:
* even if they are not your own pages.
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Re: Inducement to commit Copyright Infringement
Of course, as we have learned, hosting copyright infringing content is perfectly okay. The source of the infringement is never sought out. Rather the real crime is in linking to infringing material, or innocently indexing the web pages that contain the infringing material. Or thinking about infringement (as per the article).
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Inducement to commit Copyright Infringement
(1) AirTel is modifying someone else's page in transit to you so that it will load the JavaScript into your browser, and
(2) AirTel's JavaScript code is copyrighted, and
(3) viewing it is a copyright infringement
Then didn't AirTel just induce you to commit said copyright infringement?
Shouldn't AirTel be suing themselves for 'enabling and facilitating' copyright infringement?
Isn't merely linking to infringing content an infringement? Thus AirTel is also guilty of inserting an infringing link into someone else's web page in transit to your browser -- and thus AirTel is doubly guilty of copyright infringement!
Wow, AirTel really sounds like a huge copyright infringer -- er, I mean thief -- who is stealing their own JavaScript code by making your browser load it! Each thieving download into someone's browser depletes the supply of originals of that JavaScript, so I can see why AirTel would be upset.
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Re:
What I think you are saying, in short, is failure to consider 'fair use' or Section 230 of CDA (and other factors) prior to filing a lawsuit is a violation of Rule 11(b)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
But then this...That's pretty cool. Such sanctions need to start being handed out like candy!
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Re: Re: MITM attacks
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Re: MITM attacks
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jail for merely thinking about infringing
How would you separate 'thinking about' infringing, vs thinking about fair use?
Maybe if you look like you are thinking about infringement, that is probable cause to detain you and obtain a confession.
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Re: Just because criminals can claim "copyright", doesn't make copyright bad.
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Re: Abolish Copyright
Same thing. Copyright in the 21st century is about censorship. The endless parade of 'anomalies' should be convincing.
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Addendum
I was expecting to see an additional paragraph:
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Re: Talk to your kids, before they do
On the post: Torrent Madness: UK Cybercrime Official Argues That File Sharing Is A Gateway Drug To Crime
Gateway to Terrorism!
Don't you know you could get so much more traction by saying it is a gateway to Terrorism!
Better yet, just say that file sharing IS terrorism!
Since when is Hollywood shy about going over the top and jumping the shark, creating an implausible spectacle? Add some special effects and claim that file sharing will bring about the apocalypse. That might really move legislators into action on a gateway to nowhere.
File sharing costs the global economy $74 TRILLION -- which is way more than the global economic output, but who cares because... FILE SHARING!
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Re: Re: Re: Surely /this/ time they won't ignore it, right?
On the post: Legislators Strip Funding For Warrantless Use Of Stingrays By FBI, Take Money From The DEA To Buy Bodycams
FBI: request to the court
Can you please give us a broad warrant that ORDERS the FBI to use stingray whenever the FBI feels like it. This court order valid for up to one quarter of a galactic turn, or whenever the FBI asks the court to withdraw the order -- whichever comes sooner.
Your friends at the FBI.
"we're the good guys"
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Re: Sry but...
That doesn't mean rockets weren't worth throwing research money at. Lots of trial and error. No obvious, in the short term, commercial use. This is why DARPA is good for research projects that are worthwhile, potentially have many other useful applications, but have no present commercial motives to pursue.
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Re: Re: Re: YouTube will remove music
Neither, apparently, can rights holders.
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