Thanks german police, real big help in refuting the paranoid people who already think that basic health and safety measures are a government plot to track everyone for nefarious reasons, I'm sure your actions here will in no way have long-term consequences that make the public less safe.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Not an idiot, corrupt, big difference
Perhaps, but if I'm going off the cliff with them whether I want to or not I'm not going to spare their egos by pretending that they're not fools falling for an obvious liar.
Funny, if you were looking for someone to blame for the Stop The Steal nutters you'd think the very top of the list would be those that were saying that the election would be 'stolen', for months on end, rather than a group who just look into security in general.
Ah well, I'm sure the aim of the article's blame has absolutely nothing to do with who wrote it and who were used as sources, and it's a pure coincidence I'm sure that they missed the most obvious target for blame and landed on one several layers down.
... what? If a bunch of idiots want to walk off a cliff because someone told them that there's gold at the bottom and that person also claims that another person said that the idiots would never have the 'courage' to take that step that's on them.
Ah spite-fueled stupidity, I'd call it absurd(and it is) but I suppose it has already shown itself to be disturbingly very real and effective.
'I don't care if they're treating me like a gullible fool that will buy anything they tell me, I'm still voting for/supporting them because you're being mean and telling me I'm a gullible fool for falling for their con and if that merely confirms what a raging moron I am so be it!'
Followed by felony charges if anyone has the utter audacity to try and lawyer up and force the state to hand over information as the peons thinking that they should be involved in governance beyond electing their betters simply will not stand.
'If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide' is a rubbish argument almost all of the time, but when it comes to the government attempting to make it harder for the citizenry to know what they are doing it's kinda hard to read it any other way than 'We have a bunch of stuff to hide that even we know we shouldn't be saying/doing', all the more so if it's coming from one that recently got caught screwing up on a monumental scale and is still trying to pretend that it's anyone's fault but theirs.
The idea that TD staff would block or remove comments(outside of blatant spam) is especially funny given the 'I've been here a good while' shtick they're pulling because anyone who has been on TD for long enough will have seen numerous examples of what TD staff do allow through, and ooh boy have some of those comments been doozies, so the idea that they could be bothered to start blocking someone now over some triviality is rather laughable.
Simple misunderstanding, you see the council on human rights isn't there to protect those rights it's so the members can share the best ways they've found to violate them.
(I wish I could say the above was sarcasm but given the article...)
Re: Re: Re: First they came for the insurrectionists...
Oh they still do but much like many other things they seem to think it only applies to them and theirs. 'I have the right to kick someone out of my store if I don't like them but they are tyrannical censors if they kick me and/or my friend out of their store.'
Funny how 'copyright infringement is wrong because it takes something that doesn't belong to you' only works in one direction, and that direction just so happens to align with the interests of powerful and rich companies...
So long as there is no penalty for bogus copyright claims this will continue to happen because there's no reason for it not to. Introduce a penalty that's actually real and enforced and you'd see bogus claims all but disappear overnight since suddenly making them would actually have a cost beyond 'have bot scraps as many links as possible and stuff them into a DMCA form'.
Just off the top of my head...
First strike, financial penalty with the money given to the victim and blocked from issuing a copyright claim for the work in question for a set amount of time.
Second strike, much heftier financial penalty and the 'suspension' duration is likewise significantly larger.
Third strike, copyright is revoked and placed into the public domain.
Issuing a copyright claim during the suspension period immediately moves the penalty up twice, so if it was your first violation but you just couldn't help yourself before the timer ran out congrats, it just got bumped up to the third strike and you lost that copyright. Lastly the suspension period is tied to both time and the fine, if the timer runs on but you haven't paid the financial penalty you're still blocked from issuing copyright claims for that work until you do, so it's not possible to simply wait out the clock.
If you have someone issue copyright claims on your behalf their actions are treated as yours, so you'd better make sure that they do a good job otherwise you're going to start losing copyrights super fast. If someone issues a claim to a copyright they don't own and don't have the rights to there's no suspension period(due to there being no copyright to link it to) but the financial penalty is immediately ramped up to a second violation level and doubled, so be very careful what you claim is yours.
Set up a system like this and not only would the 'let the bots handle it' industry collapse overnight(oh noes, what a loss), but DMCA claims would shrink to comparatively almost nothing and those that were sending DMCA claims would be much more careful in doing so, since there would now be a very real penalty for violations on both sides of the law rather than just the one.
and that if it did it would be hell for anyone not a straight white middle-aged Christian male, is not to be discussed openly.
Probably because they see that as a feature rather than a bug but even they realize that saying that part out loud wouldn't be a good look to most people.
Agent 1: 'Hey so this group is talking about how they absolutely will not accept any election result that doesn't keep their guy in power, and they're making not-even-remotely-veiled references that they are more than willing to use deadly force to prevent that outcome, think we should-'
Agent 2: 'Stop looking over the shoulders of those Very Fine People and keep our focus on the scourge of Antifa/BLM who are definitely a much bigger threat to our way of life with their uppity protests and whining? Yes, yes you really should.'
Sadly I could all-too-easily see that as a perfectly viable explanation if they actually did have knowledge ahead of time as to why they didn't actually do anything with it...
Because nothing screams 'patriot' louder than trying to overthrow, violently, an election just because you didn't like the result.
While the FBI getting access to the data does raise the question of 'how', whether flipping one of the insurrectionists, making use of an exploit they've 'forgotten' to tell anyone else about or some other explanation it does certainly bring a smile to my face to hear about these 'patriots' finding themselves on the receiving end of the system they tried to overthrow like this.
As for the 'going dark' angle that's always been a garbage argument and it's just been getting worse. There is more information than ever before available for the grabbing from a myriad of sources, if those in law enforcement are struggling that's probably a 'them' problem more than it's the fault of encryption, and even to the extent that encryption might make their jobs harder it's vastly outweighed by the protection it provides the public, stopping and/or preventing far more crimes than it shields from view.
because quote "an appeal is appropriate because the trial court’s order terminates or substantially handicaps the prosecution"
No, I can see that, if police and prosecutors have to actually follow the law and/or only bring charges according to what the law actually says respectively rather than being able to just make shit up that would make their jobs way harder, and we can't have that now can we?
Ah yes, the heinous form of censorship that is... one sec... 'refusing to continue to carry a particular channel on your privately owned property because it's run by and filled with garbage and lies', no different than the government coming in and telling you you're not allowed to speak anywhere really.
'How dare they include realistic objects in their game!?'
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see your company's reputation turned into nothing more than 'legal thug that made a decent game years back and went downhill from there.'
... said the AC, though I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that that was meant sarcastically rather than taken it at face value.
'Fear privacy! Down with walls! A camera in every window!'
Would be nice if someone were to return the favor with their own little mini-scenes.
A child is on the bed, texting or reading, and looking over their shoulder is a man in an official suit along with any number of others of questionable looks and demeanor.
A married(or not) couple is having a conversation in their bedroom, and sitting just off to the side is a man in a suit taking notes as other strangers are scattered around the room listening in.
A support group is getting together to talk about their problems and just a few feet away cameras are rolling as a few men in suits record the whole thing while strangers engage in a running commentary about what's being said.
If they want to demonize privacy then it's only fair to show people what that outcome results in, with the government and anyone else who cares to able to peek into the lives of anyone they want whenever they want because once you cripple the encryption that keeps everyone safe anyone can make use of the vulnerability that's been created, not just the government that pinky-promises they'll be super-duper responsible with their new power.
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Thanks german police, real big help in refuting the paranoid people who already think that basic health and safety measures are a government plot to track everyone for nefarious reasons, I'm sure your actions here will in no way have long-term consequences that make the public less safe.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Not an idiot, corrupt, big difference
Perhaps, but if I'm going off the cliff with them whether I want to or not I'm not going to spare their egos by pretending that they're not fools falling for an obvious liar.
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'Look over there, a scapegoat!'
Funny, if you were looking for someone to blame for the Stop The Steal nutters you'd think the very top of the list would be those that were saying that the election would be 'stolen', for months on end, rather than a group who just look into security in general.
Ah well, I'm sure the aim of the article's blame has absolutely nothing to do with who wrote it and who were used as sources, and it's a pure coincidence I'm sure that they missed the most obvious target for blame and landed on one several layers down.
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Re: Re: Not an idiot, corrupt, big difference
... what? If a bunch of idiots want to walk off a cliff because someone told them that there's gold at the bottom and that person also claims that another person said that the idiots would never have the 'courage' to take that step that's on them.
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Not an idiot, corrupt, big difference
Ah spite-fueled stupidity, I'd call it absurd(and it is) but I suppose it has already shown itself to be disturbingly very real and effective.
'I don't care if they're treating me like a gullible fool that will buy anything they tell me, I'm still voting for/supporting them because you're being mean and telling me I'm a gullible fool for falling for their con and if that merely confirms what a raging moron I am so be it!'
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Re:
Followed by felony charges if anyone has the utter audacity to try and lawyer up and force the state to hand over information as the peons thinking that they should be involved in governance beyond electing their betters simply will not stand.
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Motives as pure as fresh snow I'm sure
'If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide' is a rubbish argument almost all of the time, but when it comes to the government attempting to make it harder for the citizenry to know what they are doing it's kinda hard to read it any other way than 'We have a bunch of stuff to hide that even we know we shouldn't be saying/doing', all the more so if it's coming from one that recently got caught screwing up on a monumental scale and is still trying to pretend that it's anyone's fault but theirs.
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The persecution-complex is strong with this one
The idea that TD staff would block or remove comments(outside of blatant spam) is especially funny given the 'I've been here a good while' shtick they're pulling because anyone who has been on TD for long enough will have seen numerous examples of what TD staff do allow through, and ooh boy have some of those comments been doozies, so the idea that they could be bothered to start blocking someone now over some triviality is rather laughable.
On the post: 'Diablo 2 Resurrection' Includes 30 Day Online Check In For Reasons Nobody Can Figure Out
And the ultimate punchline to this and all DRM:
Actual copyright infringers are, as always, completely unaffected.
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Simple misunderstanding, you see the council on human rights isn't there to protect those rights it's so the members can share the best ways they've found to violate them.
(I wish I could say the above was sarcasm but given the article...)
On the post: DirecTV Finally Dumps OAN, Limiting The Conspiracy And Propaganda Channel's Reach
Re: Re: Re: First they came for the insurrectionists...
Oh they still do but much like many other things they seem to think it only applies to them and theirs. 'I have the right to kick someone out of my store if I don't like them but they are tyrannical censors if they kick me and/or my friend out of their store.'
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And strike three, say goodbye to your copyright
Funny how 'copyright infringement is wrong because it takes something that doesn't belong to you' only works in one direction, and that direction just so happens to align with the interests of powerful and rich companies...
So long as there is no penalty for bogus copyright claims this will continue to happen because there's no reason for it not to. Introduce a penalty that's actually real and enforced and you'd see bogus claims all but disappear overnight since suddenly making them would actually have a cost beyond 'have bot scraps as many links as possible and stuff them into a DMCA form'.
Just off the top of my head...
First strike, financial penalty with the money given to the victim and blocked from issuing a copyright claim for the work in question for a set amount of time.
Second strike, much heftier financial penalty and the 'suspension' duration is likewise significantly larger.
Third strike, copyright is revoked and placed into the public domain.
Issuing a copyright claim during the suspension period immediately moves the penalty up twice, so if it was your first violation but you just couldn't help yourself before the timer ran out congrats, it just got bumped up to the third strike and you lost that copyright. Lastly the suspension period is tied to both time and the fine, if the timer runs on but you haven't paid the financial penalty you're still blocked from issuing copyright claims for that work until you do, so it's not possible to simply wait out the clock.
If you have someone issue copyright claims on your behalf their actions are treated as yours, so you'd better make sure that they do a good job otherwise you're going to start losing copyrights super fast. If someone issues a claim to a copyright they don't own and don't have the rights to there's no suspension period(due to there being no copyright to link it to) but the financial penalty is immediately ramped up to a second violation level and doubled, so be very careful what you claim is yours.
Set up a system like this and not only would the 'let the bots handle it' industry collapse overnight(oh noes, what a loss), but DMCA claims would shrink to comparatively almost nothing and those that were sending DMCA claims would be much more careful in doing so, since there would now be a very real penalty for violations on both sides of the law rather than just the one.
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'Why else would we desire it so badly?'
and that if it did it would be hell for anyone not a straight white middle-aged Christian male, is not to be discussed openly.
Probably because they see that as a feature rather than a bug but even they realize that saying that part out loud wouldn't be a good look to most people.
On the post: Sedition Prosecution Of Oath Keepers Members Shows The FBI Can Still Work Around Encryption
Re:
Agent 1: 'Hey so this group is talking about how they absolutely will not accept any election result that doesn't keep their guy in power, and they're making not-even-remotely-veiled references that they are more than willing to use deadly force to prevent that outcome, think we should-'
Agent 2: 'Stop looking over the shoulders of those Very Fine People and keep our focus on the scourge of Antifa/BLM who are definitely a much bigger threat to our way of life with their uppity protests and whining? Yes, yes you really should.'
Sadly I could all-too-easily see that as a perfectly viable explanation if they actually did have knowledge ahead of time as to why they didn't actually do anything with it...
On the post: Sedition Prosecution Of Oath Keepers Members Shows The FBI Can Still Work Around Encryption
'You keep using that word...'
Because nothing screams 'patriot' louder than trying to overthrow, violently, an election just because you didn't like the result.
While the FBI getting access to the data does raise the question of 'how', whether flipping one of the insurrectionists, making use of an exploit they've 'forgotten' to tell anyone else about or some other explanation it does certainly bring a smile to my face to hear about these 'patriots' finding themselves on the receiving end of the system they tried to overthrow like this.
As for the 'going dark' angle that's always been a garbage argument and it's just been getting worse. There is more information than ever before available for the grabbing from a myriad of sources, if those in law enforcement are struggling that's probably a 'them' problem more than it's the fault of encryption, and even to the extent that encryption might make their jobs harder it's vastly outweighed by the protection it provides the public, stopping and/or preventing far more crimes than it shields from view.
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Re: Re: What about the gun
because quote "an appeal is appropriate because the trial court’s order terminates or substantially handicaps the prosecution"
No, I can see that, if police and prosecutors have to actually follow the law and/or only bring charges according to what the law actually says respectively rather than being able to just make shit up that would make their jobs way harder, and we can't have that now can we?
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First they came for the insurrectionists...
Ah yes, the heinous form of censorship that is... one sec... 'refusing to continue to carry a particular channel on your privately owned property because it's run by and filled with garbage and lies', no different than the government coming in and telling you you're not allowed to speak anywhere really.
On the post: PUBG Corp. At It Again: Sues Garena, Apple, And Google For Copyright Infringement Over 'Free Fire' App
'How dare they include realistic objects in their game!?'
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see your company's reputation turned into nothing more than 'legal thug that made a decent game years back and went downhill from there.'
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Re:
... said the AC, though I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that that was meant sarcastically rather than taken it at face value.
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'Fear privacy! Down with walls! A camera in every window!'
Would be nice if someone were to return the favor with their own little mini-scenes.
A child is on the bed, texting or reading, and looking over their shoulder is a man in an official suit along with any number of others of questionable looks and demeanor.
A married(or not) couple is having a conversation in their bedroom, and sitting just off to the side is a man in a suit taking notes as other strangers are scattered around the room listening in.
A support group is getting together to talk about their problems and just a few feet away cameras are rolling as a few men in suits record the whole thing while strangers engage in a running commentary about what's being said.
If they want to demonize privacy then it's only fair to show people what that outcome results in, with the government and anyone else who cares to able to peek into the lives of anyone they want whenever they want because once you cripple the encryption that keeps everyone safe anyone can make use of the vulnerability that's been created, not just the government that pinky-promises they'll be super-duper responsible with their new power.
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