I'm assuming that what you're saying is that, even the apparently "Real Science" studies that are paid for by government from taxpayer dollars, are actually just more of the same friends-of-commerce, paid-for pseudo-science that cell phone manufacturers themselves create, and that the whole "correct analysis methodology" process for determining safety of these devices is rigged right from the start to insure that any independent studies can be dismissed out of hand for not following the official rules.
...like they do for the tobacco, oil, alcohol, pharma, and pesticide, etc., industries...
Or, in simpler words, science would have no trouble determining the true safety/danger of cell phones, if someone would, some day, simply utilize real science methods to study them.
It is the journey of a point on a wheel, returning to its origin.
Revolution simply trades one gang of criminals masquerading as statesmen for another gang of criminals masquerading as statesmen.
With Revolution, nothing actually changes except the names of the men and women using your lives as fodder for their own personal aggrandizement.
Evolution is necessary.
Compose governments of people earning less than 50,000 per annum, who are given a publically accessible expense account and an appropriate living space for the duration of their term, but are paid at the end of their term according to their accomplishments while in office, and you have the beginning of real change.
Of course this is impossible.
Politicians and their Corporate owners would never allow it and the population has no voice in the matter. :)
"And, why have we allowed our elected officials to become the enablers of civil liberties abuses, rather than the protectors of civil liberties?"
A very good question.
Here's a better one.
Is there anything the US public can do to prevent our elected officials from becoming the enablers of civil liberties abuses, rather than the protectors of civil liberties?
It is somewhat difficult to understand precisely why, after 30 years of usage, there is still nothing but contradictory science/claims pertaining to the safety of these devices.
Is science simply incapable of determining the facts because the facts are so ephemeral and or difficult to ascertain with any degree of certainty?
Or is this due entirely to the modern habit of corporate concerns flooding the system with paid-for pseudo science designed specifically to help sell a product, by pretending to show product safety?
I would think that 30 years was sufficient time to determine the absolute scientifically defined truth about cell phones, but this is certainly not the case.
So, is science incapable of determining the dangers of cell phones because the question is too complex to answer (or because nobody is funding such real research), or is it simply that real science is overwhelmed by the number of pseudo-studies disseminated and designed by commercial interests to help sell an unsafe but super-popular product?
Hell, according to that article, Cell Phones are a good thing, Darwinning away the most useless career criminals known to humanity, at a faster and faster rate.
On a planet where more than half the governments are fascist, getting anything that prevents "business as usual" on an unanimous basis is absolutely impossible - and is, in fact, absolutely laughable.
Since the federal government and its agencies work for the International Billionaire Club, business as usual includes the perpetual, 24/7 surveillance of all who might threaten "business as usual".
This legislation will be less effective than a fly swatter in a swamp.
"...none of the funds authorized to be appropriated by this Act may be used..."
Oh dear. I can hear the internal dialogue now....
"Damn them peacenik bastards. Looks like we're gonna hafta ratchet up the blackmail division to offset the snoop and scoop programs, if'n the lawyer pool can't find a good workaround among the "exception" clauses, Steve."
"Not to worry Sam. Those exceptions are big enough to drive Jeb Bush's Ego through, with clearance on either side of a few hundred feet. We'll just rename the built-in security breach processes to something legally appropriate and carry on without missing a step. As usual."
"...municipalities should wait for real science before terrifying the local populace and building a nation of paranoids generally seems like a good idea."
Absolutely right. After all, Cell Phones have only been around for a year or two and it takes at least twenty years or more for any "1.Real Science" to ascertain the "actual" safety or danger of any new fangled electronic device such a cell phone.
So all you need to do is wait another 15 or so years and then some "1.Real Science" will be handed out to the public on this subject.
1."Real Science"; for those that are interested, is based on the cumulative total of all published Positive Paid Pseudo Science Studies performed by the manufacturers of Cell Phones, minus the cumulative total of all published negative "Third Party" and non-commercial investigations performed by unpaid scientists during the same twenty year period.
The results while not actually the truth, are always commercially supportive and thus better for the economy.
The Right To Bear Arms is now The Right To Bear Butt and Bend Over
One has to wonder exactly what it is going to take to finally convince the American Public that the federal government and its agencies no longer work for the (non-billionaire) people of the United States.
The Federal Agencies and the USG itself have done absolutely everything short of shooting people in broad daylight, to shut out any kind of public exposure of their secretive and semi-legal activities for the last ten years and more and yet the American Public still acts amazed when they ask a pertinent question of these once-upon-a-time employees and the USG or its agents simply tell them to go fuck themselves.
Its really no wonder that the USG treats the American People with disdain and utter contempt.
It is also no wonder why the rest of the world's population holds the American People in contempt and views American Society with disgust.
Hey, the same absurd and patently false claim was made against cannabis and it successfully allowed the demonization of the perfectly harmless plant for nearly a century, giving Organized Crime one of the biggest black market commodities in history and insuring the continued graft from organized crime to many generations of politicians, police officers and lawyers.
Andy Archibald is just using an old politically favored technique with a proven track record, commonly called Official Bullshit.
Without the wonders of Official Bullshit, most of the really bad laws would have never been written and most of the last five generations of crooked cops, mob lawyers and career politicians would not have been able to afford their yachts.
Well, I was gonna offer the idea that all the USG had to do was play another false flag op and blow some shit and people up, and then run with the popular truth-free press version of events as a reason for restarting and escalating all the surveillance programs, but it appears that this sort of bullshit trickery by the USG is now as expected as April Showers.
"It's a pity that so many other copyright companies still insist on fighting piracy, rather than learning how to turn it to their advantage."
I think in the end, we will learn that these companies that demonize peer to peer file sharing, are doing so not because they think "piracy" is a terrible scourge that impoverishes artists and causes society to collapse, but because they want to place legal restraints on the internet that will prevent the free flow of information between citizens globally, especially information pertaining to their various products and services.
Television is their goal - all commercials on TV are lies to some extent and telling lies on TV is 100% legal and without any sort of consequence in a totally controlled environment. This is what they want for the Internet, and the copyright laws are the means they have chosen to use to produce the legislation necessary to end the fledgling public hive mind.
By associating file-sharing with "piracy" and making it illegal, they have given themselves a fresh slate upon which to draw laws that will - with a few deft re-interpretations - allow them to control the internet content and usage in the same fashion they control the television content and usage.
The so-called "free trade negotiations" are the vehicle they are using to install these new laws, which is why they must remain secret.
Whenever I read anything about these secret so-called "trade" "negotiations", the same questions always echo over and over in my mind.
How the hell are these secret commercial deals; that affect huge swaths of the international public, legal?
Why are these businessmen allowed to write and impose laws that adversely affect not only the public in their own nations, but foreign public populations as well?
What ever happened to the parts of the USG that were supposed to protect the US public from career criminals, greedy billionaires, foreign crime syndicates and corrupt politicians?
Is there any part of the US legal system that has not been over-run by Organized Crime and the American Elite?
"At the very least, it seems to deserve deeper scrutiny by the public and government officials as to exactly why states are so ready to hand out this kind of money.
What??
The article repeatedly states exactly why "states are so ready to hand out this kind of money".
Kickbacks, favors, graft, bribes, and billions in profits and millions of dollars - lost - that can be divvied up by an army of criminals and politicians.
Its just another in a long, long list of ways and means of spending tax payer's money on things that will make friends in high places very happy and generate favors from those friends in return.
I thought that was obvious before the news of massive criminal activity revealed by Sony's in house crime-team emails.
To keep asking why is to admit your just not paying attention, or that you just don't like the answer.
Re: Re: New motto: A job worth doing, is a job worth doing forever.
"...organize themselves without the aid of the politicians."
Oh absolutely true.
All of the Old Guard hate the internet and social media because it is the fledgling global public hive mind that has foiled more of their plans than all the whistleblowers in history.
In the good old days it was easy to fool your own population into believing the designated enemy of the day was evil and the cause of all ills, and should be destroyed, quickly rousing the rabble to military recruitment, because generally, only the wealthy had the ability to travel and listen to the people of the other nations and the wealthy are the ones who make money from war and strife and chaos.
With the web and the fledgling human hive mind, this is no longer as easy as it was because people of all nations can communicate and thus people are not as easy to fool.
Because politicians, like "Captains of Industry and Finance" are, without exception, the sons and daughters of the rich who have never learned anything but how to make money, make money, they are not very good at actually thinking on their feet if the outcome is not about turning one dollar into three dollars repeatedly, so they need things to be super easy when it comes to subterfuge and propaganda and the web is interfering with that ease.
If it were not for the fact that most of these parasites were already making money selling shit as Shinola, or child pornography on the web, the internet would have been dismantled ten years ago.
In an American Declared Warzone, absolutely everything that moves is automatically designated an enemy combatant - farm animals, babies, women, elderly, insects, pets, children, foreign journalists, etc..
This pretty much eliminates the hassle of having to report on collateral damage.
Thus, should ISIS (continue to) use the US War-machine's gullibility, via social media, to make the US forces target and destroy anti-ISIS buildings and persons, US policy dictates that anyone who gets killed by the incoming Obama-drones, automatically becomes labelled as "terminated terrorists. "
New motto: A job worth doing, is a job worth doing forever.
"Why is it that grandstanding American politicians always want to blame the platforms for people doing bad stuff on those platforms, even when those platforms appear to provide all sorts of useful information that apparently help law enforcement, intelligence agencies and the military do their jobs?"
Perhaps because these groups really do not want to do their "apparent" jobs very well, because if they did those jobs well, then the bad guys would be minimized and these groups would have nothing to do, and would quickly become redundant - losing their lucrative "always need more funding" gravy train.
" ....various parts of the government need to be reminded that they work for We The People."
How can you even think this is still true, after reading article after article describing the myriad ways and means that the USG uses to avoid working for the American Public?
I think we can easily assume that this is another popular social myth designed to make Americans feel secure and empowered, while the ranchers fleece the sheep.
On the post: Wireless Carriers Sue Over Berkeley's Cell Phone Radiation Warnings
Re: Re: Re: Re:
I'm assuming that what you're saying is that, even the apparently "Real Science" studies that are paid for by government from taxpayer dollars, are actually just more of the same friends-of-commerce, paid-for pseudo-science that cell phone manufacturers themselves create, and that the whole "correct analysis methodology" process for determining safety of these devices is rigged right from the start to insure that any independent studies can be dismissed out of hand for not following the official rules.
...like they do for the tobacco, oil, alcohol, pharma, and pesticide, etc., industries...
Or, in simpler words, science would have no trouble determining the true safety/danger of cell phones, if someone would, some day, simply utilize real science methods to study them.
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Re:
It is the journey of a point on a wheel, returning to its origin.
Revolution simply trades one gang of criminals masquerading as statesmen for another gang of criminals masquerading as statesmen.
With Revolution, nothing actually changes except the names of the men and women using your lives as fodder for their own personal aggrandizement.
Evolution is necessary.
Compose governments of people earning less than 50,000 per annum, who are given a publically accessible expense account and an appropriate living space for the duration of their term, but are paid at the end of their term according to their accomplishments while in office, and you have the beginning of real change.
Of course this is impossible.
Politicians and their Corporate owners would never allow it and the population has no voice in the matter. :)
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On the post: House Intelligence Committee Trying To Block Privacy & Civil Liberties Board From Doing Its Job
Fighting Fascism 101
A very good question.
Here's a better one.
Is there anything the US public can do to prevent our elected officials from becoming the enablers of civil liberties abuses, rather than the protectors of civil liberties?
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On the post: Wireless Carriers Sue Over Berkeley's Cell Phone Radiation Warnings
Re: Re:
Is science simply incapable of determining the facts because the facts are so ephemeral and or difficult to ascertain with any degree of certainty?
Or is this due entirely to the modern habit of corporate concerns flooding the system with paid-for pseudo science designed specifically to help sell a product, by pretending to show product safety?
I would think that 30 years was sufficient time to determine the absolute scientifically defined truth about cell phones, but this is certainly not the case.
So, is science incapable of determining the dangers of cell phones because the question is too complex to answer (or because nobody is funding such real research), or is it simply that real science is overwhelmed by the number of pseudo-studies disseminated and designed by commercial interests to help sell an unsafe but super-popular product?
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On the post: Wireless Carriers Sue Over Berkeley's Cell Phone Radiation Warnings
Re:
Hell, according to that article, Cell Phones are a good thing, Darwinning away the most useless career criminals known to humanity, at a faster and faster rate.
Yay Cell Phones.
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Re:
On a planet where more than half the governments are fascist, getting anything that prevents "business as usual" on an unanimous basis is absolutely impossible - and is, in fact, absolutely laughable.
Since the federal government and its agencies work for the International Billionaire Club, business as usual includes the perpetual, 24/7 surveillance of all who might threaten "business as usual".
This legislation will be less effective than a fly swatter in a swamp.
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On the post: Amendment Blocking Backdoor Searches, Backdooring Encryption To Be Added To Defense Funding Bill
That'll teach 'em to mess with JQ Public... NOT
Oh dear. I can hear the internal dialogue now....
"Damn them peacenik bastards. Looks like we're gonna hafta ratchet up the blackmail division to offset the snoop and scoop programs, if'n the lawyer pool can't find a good workaround among the "exception" clauses, Steve."
"Not to worry Sam. Those exceptions are big enough to drive Jeb Bush's Ego through, with clearance on either side of a few hundred feet. We'll just rename the built-in security breach processes to something legally appropriate and carry on without missing a step. As usual."
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On the post: Wireless Carriers Sue Over Berkeley's Cell Phone Radiation Warnings
Re: Re: Re: Re:
"When removing cork, do not point bottle at face."
Apparently many had put out an eye opening their bottles wrong.
Such labels are never meant to protect people from harm.
They are meant to protect companies from liability.
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Realllllll Science!
Absolutely right. After all, Cell Phones have only been around for a year or two and it takes at least twenty years or more for any "1.Real Science" to ascertain the "actual" safety or danger of any new fangled electronic device such a cell phone.
So all you need to do is wait another 15 or so years and then some "1.Real Science" will be handed out to the public on this subject.
1."Real Science"; for those that are interested, is based on the cumulative total of all published Positive Paid Pseudo Science Studies performed by the manufacturers of Cell Phones, minus the cumulative total of all published negative "Third Party" and non-commercial investigations performed by unpaid scientists during the same twenty year period.
The results while not actually the truth, are always commercially supportive and thus better for the economy.
/s
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On the post: FBI Successfully Stonewalls Inspector General Into Irrelevance By Withholding Timely Section 215 Documents
The Right To Bear Arms is now The Right To Bear Butt and Bend Over
The Federal Agencies and the USG itself have done absolutely everything short of shooting people in broad daylight, to shut out any kind of public exposure of their secretive and semi-legal activities for the last ten years and more and yet the American Public still acts amazed when they ask a pertinent question of these once-upon-a-time employees and the USG or its agents simply tell them to go fuck themselves.
Its really no wonder that the USG treats the American People with disdain and utter contempt.
It is also no wonder why the rest of the world's population holds the American People in contempt and views American Society with disgust.
We The People have none to blame but themselves.
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On the post: Torrent Madness: UK Cybercrime Official Argues That File Sharing Is A Gateway Drug To Crime
Tried and True Falsehoods
Andy Archibald is just using an old politically favored technique with a proven track record, commonly called Official Bullshit.
Without the wonders of Official Bullshit, most of the really bad laws would have never been written and most of the last five generations of crooked cops, mob lawyers and career politicians would not have been able to afford their yachts.
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On the post: FISA Court Asked To Shut Down Bulk Collection Of Phone Records During Transition To USA Freedom Act
Hope Springs Eternal
Maybe there really is hope for America yet.
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On the post: Netflix Says Piracy Helped It Succeed In The Netherlands, And Will Help When It Launches In Spain
Re: Re: Correlation IS Causation
Have your friends offer ice cream home delivery when the heat reaches 88 degrees and watch those numbers reverse themselves.
Once the temp reaches the "too hot to leave the air-conditioned living room" level, ice cream shops need to bring the ice cream to the customer. :)
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On the post: Netflix Says Piracy Helped It Succeed In The Netherlands, And Will Help When It Launches In Spain
When the Merchant is King
I think in the end, we will learn that these companies that demonize peer to peer file sharing, are doing so not because they think "piracy" is a terrible scourge that impoverishes artists and causes society to collapse, but because they want to place legal restraints on the internet that will prevent the free flow of information between citizens globally, especially information pertaining to their various products and services.
Television is their goal - all commercials on TV are lies to some extent and telling lies on TV is 100% legal and without any sort of consequence in a totally controlled environment. This is what they want for the Internet, and the copyright laws are the means they have chosen to use to produce the legislation necessary to end the fledgling public hive mind.
By associating file-sharing with "piracy" and making it illegal, they have given themselves a fresh slate upon which to draw laws that will - with a few deft re-interpretations - allow them to control the internet content and usage in the same fashion they control the television content and usage.
The so-called "free trade negotiations" are the vehicle they are using to install these new laws, which is why they must remain secret.
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On the post: Revealed Emails Show How Industry Lobbyists Basically Wrote The TPP
Nigh Endgame
How the hell are these secret commercial deals; that affect huge swaths of the international public, legal?
Why are these businessmen allowed to write and impose laws that adversely affect not only the public in their own nations, but foreign public populations as well?
What ever happened to the parts of the USG that were supposed to protect the US public from career criminals, greedy billionaires, foreign crime syndicates and corrupt politicians?
Is there any part of the US legal system that has not been over-run by Organized Crime and the American Elite?
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On the post: The Out And Out Corruption Of Hollywood's State Subsidies
Sand: Ostriches do not, but People definitely do.
What??
The article repeatedly states exactly why "states are so ready to hand out this kind of money".
Kickbacks, favors, graft, bribes, and billions in profits and millions of dollars - lost - that can be divvied up by an army of criminals and politicians.
Its just another in a long, long list of ways and means of spending tax payer's money on things that will make friends in high places very happy and generate favors from those friends in return.
I thought that was obvious before the news of massive criminal activity revealed by Sony's in house crime-team emails.
To keep asking why is to admit your just not paying attention, or that you just don't like the answer.
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On the post: If US Is Really Able To Target ISIS Sites Based On Social Media Posts... Why Is It Trying To Stop ISIS From Using Social Media?
Re: Re: New motto: A job worth doing, is a job worth doing forever.
Oh absolutely true.
All of the Old Guard hate the internet and social media because it is the fledgling global public hive mind that has foiled more of their plans than all the whistleblowers in history.
In the good old days it was easy to fool your own population into believing the designated enemy of the day was evil and the cause of all ills, and should be destroyed, quickly rousing the rabble to military recruitment, because generally, only the wealthy had the ability to travel and listen to the people of the other nations and the wealthy are the ones who make money from war and strife and chaos.
With the web and the fledgling human hive mind, this is no longer as easy as it was because people of all nations can communicate and thus people are not as easy to fool.
Because politicians, like "Captains of Industry and Finance" are, without exception, the sons and daughters of the rich who have never learned anything but how to make money, make money, they are not very good at actually thinking on their feet if the outcome is not about turning one dollar into three dollars repeatedly, so they need things to be super easy when it comes to subterfuge and propaganda and the web is interfering with that ease.
If it were not for the fact that most of these parasites were already making money selling shit as Shinola, or child pornography on the web, the internet would have been dismantled ten years ago.
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Re:
This pretty much eliminates the hassle of having to report on collateral damage.
Thus, should ISIS (continue to) use the US War-machine's gullibility, via social media, to make the US forces target and destroy anti-ISIS buildings and persons, US policy dictates that anyone who gets killed by the incoming Obama-drones, automatically becomes labelled as "terminated terrorists. "
If you can't beat the media, own the media.
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On the post: If US Is Really Able To Target ISIS Sites Based On Social Media Posts... Why Is It Trying To Stop ISIS From Using Social Media?
New motto: A job worth doing, is a job worth doing forever.
Perhaps because these groups really do not want to do their "apparent" jobs very well, because if they did those jobs well, then the bad guys would be minimized and these groups would have nothing to do, and would quickly become redundant - losing their lucrative "always need more funding" gravy train.
Just a guess. :)
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On the post: Pentagon Offered 'FOIA Terrorist' Jason Leopold A Stack Of Documents To Just Shut Up And Go Away Forever
Re:
How can you even think this is still true, after reading article after article describing the myriad ways and means that the USG uses to avoid working for the American Public?
I think we can easily assume that this is another popular social myth designed to make Americans feel secure and empowered, while the ranchers fleece the sheep.
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