"And again with the "we". Tero, nobody believes you have a team"
In fact, he's already categorically stated that he used to work with other people but threw a hissy fit and locked up his GitHub page when they tried doing things he disagreed with. Which, from evidence presented here, probably consisted of things like "competent design" and "ability for users to understand the UI" if it wasn't just about complying with FOSS licences that he's whined about before. Oh, and it must be a couple of years since he relayed that info to us, but he still has a link to the dead project on his site, this being how much he cares about his visitors.
"any bot spouting off that MSNBCNN or WaPo can't be trusted"
What's funny is that all these "independent thinkers" always react with that same claim as if it matters. Erm, OK, but the specific person you're speaking to never uses those sources, what now? They never have an answer, it's always weak projection and whataboutism as if there's no middle ground between echo chambers, even if there is an echo chamber on "both sides" (and don't confuse them with facts about how there's many more than 2 sides - unless they're cosplaying libertarian to pretend to be above it all, they're never interested in nuance).
"A lot of "ordinary" people watch videos of people playing video games, whether for entertainment or to learn how to play those games"
A lot, but not a significant majority, at least as far as I'm aware. A blackout wouldn't affect people who never watch the videos, and it's unlikely to truly affect people whose only exposure to gaming is when they pick up the new new Mario/Zelda/Pokemon game.
Such activity would be good, but I doubt it would have a large impact, especially on a subject like this where it's trivially easy to spin it to make the fans look like the bad guys to people who don't follow such things (literally, all they need to do is equate them to counterfeiters. Not true, but easy to do without a great deal of mainstream comeback).
Because right wingers desperately want to pretend that free speech means freedom from consequences of said speech, and that actions taken by private corporations are equal to action taken by the government.
Because this is easier than addressing the actual issues and facing the horrifying truth that not only are they not the main characters and heroes in their own stories, they might be something else.
"I simply pointed out that the headline goes counter to the premise of free speech."
Yes, and you've already been told that free speech is not affected. They're free to speak, they're just not able to use a contracted service with one possible supplier to amplify it, because the supplier no longer want to be associated with them. There is not a problem with this..
"Rarely listened to any non-Whitehouse speeches. Rarely listened to them either."
You know, proclaiming that you chose to remain ignorant of issues is not a good retort to people recalling the issues.
"I pointed out that a site that champions free speech posted a headline contrary to the distribution of speech."
Distribution of speech is not enshrined as a right anywhere, inside or outside of the constitution. You're free to speak, not to use someone else's property as a megaphone if they don't want you to use it. Stating that you're happy that someone's misuse of said property is finally being met with consequences is not an attack on the speech itself.
Where's the misinformation? OANN is not having its contract renewed, which is something that some think is long overdue. The author of this article states his opinion on that fact. You come in here whining that he's exercised his right to state his opinion, while lying about people being "silenced".
There's no misinformation here, except from people desperate to pretend that a private contract deal is a free speech violation, or to complain that someone else used their free speech rights in a way they didn't care for.
"I don’t recall"
Of course not, how fortunate for you.
"Noting once again there is a difference between championing the right to removal and the actual removal."
Yes, and nobody's having any rights removed, unless you're lying about the rights that are there in the first place. You can use your free speech rights to lie about what's happening all you want, but none has been removed.
The problem I'm trying to get at is that it doesn't matter what articles those publications decide to run. The mainstream Nintendo audience are not going to read them. The people who automatically buy the new Mario and Pokemon, or the parents/grandparents who default to Nintendo because they're kid friendly would understand the issue even if you explained to them face to face what a big deal it is.
So, even if people who do read this stuff did a full boycott, Nintendo wouldn't notice.
Name the issue - DRM, vendor lock-in, right to repair, section 230, etc. - it's not just that people don't care until they are directly affected. Most people just don't know anything about the conversations we're having, so it's not going to affect their purchasing habits.
We are living in a world where Mars is facing a lawsuit about child slavery related to its cocoa supply, and the only thing that got any kind of attention is them deciding to rebrand its characters so that Tucker Carlson can whine about how he's not as sexually attracted to them as he used to be. Why would you think that overzealous application of copyright laws against fans would make a dent in the mainstream that would lead to lost sales?
Free speech. You object to free speech. Just admit it.
"the loss of a voice’s outlet"
One of many outlets. I suspect we'll continue to hear a lot from them both before and after their DirectTV contract ends.
"Wasn’t cut because he said things."
Maybe not, but they did get your favourite tangerine con artist to demand that he was as a result of his free speech and express satisfaction that he was eventually cut.
According to your previous words, a man with intellectual honesty and consistence of position would surely be even more angry at Trump attempting to influence private industry in response to free speech than he is at a private individual commenting on action that's already taken place.
What you always have to remember is that most people don't know or care about what's happening here. Every single disappointed tech nerd and mod fan could boycott them for life, and they wouldn't see a noticeable dent in sales figures.
This is a serious issue for people who care about both the misuse of copyright and the creation of art, but for the average consumer it's not even on their radar.
"After spending $26 million only to be resoundingly defeated at the ballot box, the big automakers and dealers still don’t get it"
No, I think that they get "we stand to continue making a huge amount of money while this is delayed and $26 million is worth the effort to continue that as long as possible" just fine.
I'm looking forward to the upcoming shitstorm over Dan Bongino.
Well, "looking forward" is slightly sarcastic, but in case anyone missed it the Fox News host has just been kicked off from YouTube. In short, he tried spreading COVID disinformation, then when that account was suspended for a week he tried using a different account to spread the same lies. YouTube noticed, so now all his channels have been banned permanently. You know, because of the open and repeated breaking of the terms of his accounts.
It's going to be great when he uses the full force of the Fox propaganda network, combined with his channel on right-wing shitbag refugee site Rumble and whatever other platforms among his many choices he chooses to use to whine about being "silenced". But, I suspect we won't be able to avoid him talking in the near future, as a direct result of him being silenced so much.
"There's 2 billion other web sites on the planet that competes against google search."
Is there a weird competition going on in Finland that the rest of us need to know about, like a large cash prize being available to whoever consistently says the stupidest things?
Yeah, that seems to be the case. They're not throwing HBO and "security" software free of charge. They're baking the subscription fee into the package whether you use them or not.
It's great for HBO to have people subscribed to their service by default and thereby hopefully convince more people to use them instead of competitors. It's even better for them to pocket the fee from people who never cost them a penny by actually using it, and don't have the ability to opt out.
There's also the "for new customers" part that stands out. Do existing customers have the option to cancel and take advantage of the new plans if they want? Or, is this just good PR while ensuring that people living in a place with a defacto monopoly have to stick with the older plans with hidden fees?
The fundamental problem with a lot of these ISPs is that they reached something of a plateau. You get to those speeds with DSL and basic cable infrastructure quite easily, and under the early 2000s idea of what the web was, the actual benefit of expensive upgrades to the average consumer was quite minimal when doing things like browsing, email, etc. There was some demand for higher bandwidth uses, but so long as they could blame all that on piracy and pocket government money for upgrades that would never happen with little comeback, all was good.
But, the industry continued to evolve around them. All of a sudden, those people who downloaded MP3s and did some browsing were trying to watch Netflix streams, play 100GB games and do other perfectly legal and reasonable things that required much higher bandwidth. This was relatively predictable and easily dealt with via sensible upgrade plans, but they were already behind the curve when the demand actually appeared in the mainstream.
So, now it seems it's going the other way - they're trying to boast about providing those higher speeds, but doing so in a way that allows them to still profit as if they're offering some kind of premium package instead of something that would have been a natural progressive upgrade to existing plans.
"Because ultimately I have a deep rooted support for freedom of expression."
Unless that expression is "I'm glad that outfit finally got ditched, and we didn't have to wait till their defamation lawsuits are settled", in which case you're completely opposed to it.
"And I’ll be damned if I ignore someone praising the silencing of others."
Like most right-wing shitbags, they're not being silenced. They'll still find ways to whine, very loudly at that. People are simply supporting the idea that the AT&T funded propaganda network are not being given a free ride once the network hosting them had a real choice about it.
"It’s not the choice of dumping a station I protest here; rather the joy shown when something gets removed."
Then, you must have been really incensed when Trump called Kaepernick and son of a bitch for protecting racial inequality and demanded that he be kicked off the team, right? Which essentially happened after that season had finished. Or, the many other examples of people like you doing exactly the same, or worse.
NFTs are probably a self-correcting issue. The concept has some valid uses, but it's not the one that's been hyped up by the people making silly amounts of money from everyone trying to pile on to the next bandwagon. At some point in the fairly near future, the people spending millions on something they don't understand will disappear and then it's down to the actual use cases to sell themselves.
Similarly with encryption - if the worst case scenario happens and they do actually manage to do way with actually secure methods, then it probably won't be long until that's exploited and they're forced to backtrack. I hope we don't get there, but it's unlikely that the damage done if they do can be avoided for long.
Par for the course. Many times, these people aren't interested in actual fixed, they're interested in the appearance of "doing something" about an issue they can grandstand about in the next election. Coming up with a cutesy acronym is important to that end, because they can then run on "my opponent voted against the America COMPETES ACT, so they hate American business!" without getting into pesky details.
The general rule of thumb - if the name of a piece of legislation is an awkward acronym, it probably does the opposite of what the name is intended to claim it does.
"When you're playing them on a console, you'll compare them to native console game"
Yes, and they're very similar in performance when I do that. There's is some difference in experience under certain conditions (for example, you'll see some performance lag playing twitch-style FPS games, although that had improved a lot since I tried the first beta version and only really notice it on my Mac when playing over hotel wifi - playing via the cloud on my XBox is usually pretty decent).
But, then you also seem to be misunderstanding the use case I'm saying here. I'm not saying that a person would avoid buying native PlayStation games and just play via xCloud. I'm saying that if a PlayStation owner wants to play the new Bethesda game, or the new Forza or the new Halo or Gears or Ori or..... They don't have to buy an XBox or update to a certain spec of gaming PC in order to play them. They would have the option to subscribe to Game Pass for a month and get their fill on their existing hardware.
This is clearly a better option to what I currently have if I want to play the next Uncharted or Spiderman game (tough shit, I can't, buy a PS5).
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Maybe. You can never tell with the guy, since he seems to be not only a true believer in his claims, but also seems to be an easy mark for con artists. For example, the "cyber symposium" last year that he similarly claimed would present such evidence that it would immediately cause legal responses to restore Trump was based almost entirely on claims made by Dennis Montgomery, and known con artist most famous for scamming $20 million from the Pentagon with false claims). 10 minutes of due diligence would have made it obvious that he was being lied to in most of the embarrassing failures he's presented since the 2020 election, yet here he is still saying things that anyone listening knows is a fraud.
I wouldn't be surprised if he came up with the number on the spot and didn't think it through. But, I also wouldn't be surprised if another con artist is telling him what he wants to hear and is laughing all the way to the bank knowing that Lindell doesn't understand anything before he says it.
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"And again with the "we". Tero, nobody believes you have a team"
In fact, he's already categorically stated that he used to work with other people but threw a hissy fit and locked up his GitHub page when they tried doing things he disagreed with. Which, from evidence presented here, probably consisted of things like "competent design" and "ability for users to understand the UI" if it wasn't just about complying with FOSS licences that he's whined about before. Oh, and it must be a couple of years since he relayed that info to us, but he still has a link to the dead project on his site, this being how much he cares about his visitors.
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"any bot spouting off that MSNBCNN or WaPo can't be trusted"
What's funny is that all these "independent thinkers" always react with that same claim as if it matters. Erm, OK, but the specific person you're speaking to never uses those sources, what now? They never have an answer, it's always weak projection and whataboutism as if there's no middle ground between echo chambers, even if there is an echo chamber on "both sides" (and don't confuse them with facts about how there's many more than 2 sides - unless they're cosplaying libertarian to pretend to be above it all, they're never interested in nuance).
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"A lot of "ordinary" people watch videos of people playing video games, whether for entertainment or to learn how to play those games"
A lot, but not a significant majority, at least as far as I'm aware. A blackout wouldn't affect people who never watch the videos, and it's unlikely to truly affect people whose only exposure to gaming is when they pick up the new new Mario/Zelda/Pokemon game.
Such activity would be good, but I doubt it would have a large impact, especially on a subject like this where it's trivially easy to spin it to make the fans look like the bad guys to people who don't follow such things (literally, all they need to do is equate them to counterfeiters. Not true, but easy to do without a great deal of mainstream comeback).
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Because right wingers desperately want to pretend that free speech means freedom from consequences of said speech, and that actions taken by private corporations are equal to action taken by the government.
Because this is easier than addressing the actual issues and facing the horrifying truth that not only are they not the main characters and heroes in their own stories, they might be something else.
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"I simply pointed out that the headline goes counter to the premise of free speech."
Yes, and you've already been told that free speech is not affected. They're free to speak, they're just not able to use a contracted service with one possible supplier to amplify it, because the supplier no longer want to be associated with them. There is not a problem with this..
"Rarely listened to any non-Whitehouse speeches. Rarely listened to them either."
You know, proclaiming that you chose to remain ignorant of issues is not a good retort to people recalling the issues.
"I pointed out that a site that champions free speech posted a headline contrary to the distribution of speech."
Distribution of speech is not enshrined as a right anywhere, inside or outside of the constitution. You're free to speak, not to use someone else's property as a megaphone if they don't want you to use it. Stating that you're happy that someone's misuse of said property is finally being met with consequences is not an attack on the speech itself.
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"Misinformation"
Where's the misinformation? OANN is not having its contract renewed, which is something that some think is long overdue. The author of this article states his opinion on that fact. You come in here whining that he's exercised his right to state his opinion, while lying about people being "silenced".
There's no misinformation here, except from people desperate to pretend that a private contract deal is a free speech violation, or to complain that someone else used their free speech rights in a way they didn't care for.
"I don’t recall"
Of course not, how fortunate for you.
"Noting once again there is a difference between championing the right to removal and the actual removal."
Yes, and nobody's having any rights removed, unless you're lying about the rights that are there in the first place. You can use your free speech rights to lie about what's happening all you want, but none has been removed.
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The problem I'm trying to get at is that it doesn't matter what articles those publications decide to run. The mainstream Nintendo audience are not going to read them. The people who automatically buy the new Mario and Pokemon, or the parents/grandparents who default to Nintendo because they're kid friendly would understand the issue even if you explained to them face to face what a big deal it is.
So, even if people who do read this stuff did a full boycott, Nintendo wouldn't notice.
Name the issue - DRM, vendor lock-in, right to repair, section 230, etc. - it's not just that people don't care until they are directly affected. Most people just don't know anything about the conversations we're having, so it's not going to affect their purchasing habits.
We are living in a world where Mars is facing a lawsuit about child slavery related to its cocoa supply, and the only thing that got any kind of attention is them deciding to rebrand its characters so that Tucker Carlson can whine about how he's not as sexually attracted to them as he used to be. Why would you think that overzealous application of copyright laws against fans would make a dent in the mainstream that would lead to lost sales?
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"Only the publishing of an article"
Free speech. You object to free speech. Just admit it.
"the loss of a voice’s outlet"
One of many outlets. I suspect we'll continue to hear a lot from them both before and after their DirectTV contract ends.
"Wasn’t cut because he said things."
Maybe not, but they did get your favourite tangerine con artist to demand that he was as a result of his free speech and express satisfaction that he was eventually cut.
According to your previous words, a man with intellectual honesty and consistence of position would surely be even more angry at Trump attempting to influence private industry in response to free speech than he is at a private individual commenting on action that's already taken place.
Yet, here you are....
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What you always have to remember is that most people don't know or care about what's happening here. Every single disappointed tech nerd and mod fan could boycott them for life, and they wouldn't see a noticeable dent in sales figures.
This is a serious issue for people who care about both the misuse of copyright and the creation of art, but for the average consumer it's not even on their radar.
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"After spending $26 million only to be resoundingly defeated at the ballot box, the big automakers and dealers still don’t get it"
No, I think that they get "we stand to continue making a huge amount of money while this is delayed and $26 million is worth the effort to continue that as long as possible" just fine.
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I'm looking forward to the upcoming shitstorm over Dan Bongino.
Well, "looking forward" is slightly sarcastic, but in case anyone missed it the Fox News host has just been kicked off from YouTube. In short, he tried spreading COVID disinformation, then when that account was suspended for a week he tried using a different account to spread the same lies. YouTube noticed, so now all his channels have been banned permanently. You know, because of the open and repeated breaking of the terms of his accounts.
It's going to be great when he uses the full force of the Fox propaganda network, combined with his channel on right-wing shitbag refugee site Rumble and whatever other platforms among his many choices he chooses to use to whine about being "silenced". But, I suspect we won't be able to avoid him talking in the near future, as a direct result of him being silenced so much.
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"There's 2 billion other web sites on the planet that competes against google search."
Is there a weird competition going on in Finland that the rest of us need to know about, like a large cash prize being available to whoever consistently says the stupidest things?
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Yeah, that seems to be the case. They're not throwing HBO and "security" software free of charge. They're baking the subscription fee into the package whether you use them or not.
It's great for HBO to have people subscribed to their service by default and thereby hopefully convince more people to use them instead of competitors. It's even better for them to pocket the fee from people who never cost them a penny by actually using it, and don't have the ability to opt out.
There's also the "for new customers" part that stands out. Do existing customers have the option to cancel and take advantage of the new plans if they want? Or, is this just good PR while ensuring that people living in a place with a defacto monopoly have to stick with the older plans with hidden fees?
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The fundamental problem with a lot of these ISPs is that they reached something of a plateau. You get to those speeds with DSL and basic cable infrastructure quite easily, and under the early 2000s idea of what the web was, the actual benefit of expensive upgrades to the average consumer was quite minimal when doing things like browsing, email, etc. There was some demand for higher bandwidth uses, but so long as they could blame all that on piracy and pocket government money for upgrades that would never happen with little comeback, all was good.
But, the industry continued to evolve around them. All of a sudden, those people who downloaded MP3s and did some browsing were trying to watch Netflix streams, play 100GB games and do other perfectly legal and reasonable things that required much higher bandwidth. This was relatively predictable and easily dealt with via sensible upgrade plans, but they were already behind the curve when the demand actually appeared in the mainstream.
So, now it seems it's going the other way - they're trying to boast about providing those higher speeds, but doing so in a way that allows them to still profit as if they're offering some kind of premium package instead of something that would have been a natural progressive upgrade to existing plans.
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"Because as soon as you justify silencing something you can justify silencing anything."
I really wish you fuckers would be silent about something. Instead we all have to hear you whine as loudly as possible.
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"Because ultimately I have a deep rooted support for freedom of expression."
Unless that expression is "I'm glad that outfit finally got ditched, and we didn't have to wait till their defamation lawsuits are settled", in which case you're completely opposed to it.
"And I’ll be damned if I ignore someone praising the silencing of others."
Like most right-wing shitbags, they're not being silenced. They'll still find ways to whine, very loudly at that. People are simply supporting the idea that the AT&T funded propaganda network are not being given a free ride once the network hosting them had a real choice about it.
"It’s not the choice of dumping a station I protest here; rather the joy shown when something gets removed."
Then, you must have been really incensed when Trump called Kaepernick and son of a bitch for protecting racial inequality and demanded that he be kicked off the team, right? Which essentially happened after that season had finished. Or, the many other examples of people like you doing exactly the same, or worse.
Of course not, you moronic hypocrite, you.
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NFTs are probably a self-correcting issue. The concept has some valid uses, but it's not the one that's been hyped up by the people making silly amounts of money from everyone trying to pile on to the next bandwagon. At some point in the fairly near future, the people spending millions on something they don't understand will disappear and then it's down to the actual use cases to sell themselves.
Similarly with encryption - if the worst case scenario happens and they do actually manage to do way with actually secure methods, then it probably won't be long until that's exploited and they're forced to backtrack. I hope we don't get there, but it's unlikely that the damage done if they do can be avoided for long.
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Par for the course. Many times, these people aren't interested in actual fixed, they're interested in the appearance of "doing something" about an issue they can grandstand about in the next election. Coming up with a cutesy acronym is important to that end, because they can then run on "my opponent voted against the America COMPETES ACT, so they hate American business!" without getting into pesky details.
The general rule of thumb - if the name of a piece of legislation is an awkward acronym, it probably does the opposite of what the name is intended to claim it does.
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"When you're playing them on a console, you'll compare them to native console game"
Yes, and they're very similar in performance when I do that. There's is some difference in experience under certain conditions (for example, you'll see some performance lag playing twitch-style FPS games, although that had improved a lot since I tried the first beta version and only really notice it on my Mac when playing over hotel wifi - playing via the cloud on my XBox is usually pretty decent).
But, then you also seem to be misunderstanding the use case I'm saying here. I'm not saying that a person would avoid buying native PlayStation games and just play via xCloud. I'm saying that if a PlayStation owner wants to play the new Bethesda game, or the new Forza or the new Halo or Gears or Ori or..... They don't have to buy an XBox or update to a certain spec of gaming PC in order to play them. They would have the option to subscribe to Game Pass for a month and get their fill on their existing hardware.
This is clearly a better option to what I currently have if I want to play the next Uncharted or Spiderman game (tough shit, I can't, buy a PS5).
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 'What do you mean speech has consequences?!
Maybe. You can never tell with the guy, since he seems to be not only a true believer in his claims, but also seems to be an easy mark for con artists. For example, the "cyber symposium" last year that he similarly claimed would present such evidence that it would immediately cause legal responses to restore Trump was based almost entirely on claims made by Dennis Montgomery, and known con artist most famous for scamming $20 million from the Pentagon with false claims). 10 minutes of due diligence would have made it obvious that he was being lied to in most of the embarrassing failures he's presented since the 2020 election, yet here he is still saying things that anyone listening knows is a fraud.
I wouldn't be surprised if he came up with the number on the spot and didn't think it through. But, I also wouldn't be surprised if another con artist is telling him what he wants to hear and is laughing all the way to the bank knowing that Lindell doesn't understand anything before he says it.
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