Feel free to quote the line in the constitution where it says that you are guaranteed the right to the largest available audience for your free speech.
If you start yelling the n-word in a shopping mall, you will be asked to leave. If you start ranting about immigrants in the middle of a cinema, you will be asked to leave. If you start swearing at the top of your lungs in your neighbour's living room, you will be asked to leave and you know why, because being a conservative is not a magical 'get your own way' card. You are subject to the same rules of conduct as everyone else, the main difference is that in real life, they're usually unwritten but online, on moderated platforms they're laid out in black and white and conservatives have to follow them or be ejected, just the same as everyone else.
According to government stats: In the year ending March 2019, there were 9,787 offences in which firearms were involved.
The 9,787 offences recorded in the latest year was less than half (59% lower than) the level recorded at its peak in the year ending March 2004 (24,094 offences).
•There were 33 fatalities resulting from offences involving firearms.
Given that the UK population is over 60 million, I think we're fine without more guns so people can have shooting contests, go down to Asda with a sidearm or carry an ar-15 to stand near a polling place. As much as the right wing media ecosystem would like to pretend there are vast numbers of bad guys with guns out there, the figures don't back it up.
Lies are lies and the truth is the truth. Right wingers do not deserve to go unchallenged just because they are on the other side of the political spectrum, and let's be honest here, that is the kind of 'fairness' you want. You want people top be completely free of any criticism, any pushback for saying things they know are false, and you don't want them to have to adhere to the rules of platforms they agreed to when they signed up to a platform, the way every other user is. You will not be happy until white republican males are a protected class, while still somehow being a persecuted minority that's also the silent majority, despite being fewer in numbers than ever before and being completely incapable of shutting up about theiur entirely imaginary grievances.
You throw around words like censorship, but as we've seen time and time again on this site, there's always some excuse when it's a right wing site doing it, 'the people banned on parler are clearly trolling', 'The Mypillow guy isn't censoring anyone despite banning swearing and what he deems blasphemy'. You are completely fine with Joel Kaplan's treatment of left wing news sources and journalism in general on facebook because it benefits far right blogs like the Daily Wire, and I sure don't recall you ever calling for the return of the fairness doctrine to traditional media.
Your biggest issue with social media and section 230 as a whole isn't that there's moderation or 'censorship', it's that the right wing aren't in charge of, and exempt from it.
You must hate when far right groups organise rallies and bus people in to left leaning cities like Portlant for the sole purpose of getting into fights before, during and after the event, huh? You know, the kind of thing they've been recorded planning, with people like Andy Ngo active participants, so they have more 'left wing violence' to record half of and post online for the right wing media to amplify, leaving out the beginning and end, of course, the bits that would incriminate them.
Lying continually is the only way republicans can get any traction in debates as it takes the other side an hour to pick apart five minutes worth of lies. The truth needs evidence to support it, while right wing bullsh*t only needs to sound like it's kind of sort of true and to make stupid people feel angry and aggrieved.
But Foxconn weren't making squat in Wisconsin to begin with. They said they were going to, the GOP threw other people's money at them because the lie would help them politically, everybody with half a brain meanwhile knew they wouldn't and, surprise, they didn't. Tariffs or no tariffs, no American jobs were outsourced, this was only ever a OR stunt fir Trump, Wisconsin republicans and Foxconn, who wanted free money and to distract people from the fact they're the iPhone parts people whose workers try to kill themselves.
And nobody who should suffer politically for this, will, as Wisconsin is a minority rule state where a party that lost an election can retain two thirds of seats.
And to discourage moderation and the foolhardy notion that people on the right should be made to obey the rules they agreed to follow when they signed up to a platform the same as everyone else. If you make iot harder to spread disinformation it gets harder to radicalise otherwise wellmeaning people.
They said they had a moderation plan before, and they did, to ignore all complaints that weren't about left leaning people trolling, this will probably have the same result, but it'll take them a little longer to get there. They'll delete and ban for a few months then let it all slide again, as generating fascist content is tne entire point. The thing exists to radicalise the normies, to provide them with an orchestra composed entirely of dogwhistles, if it can't do that, it's useless to the people funding it.
The GOP use Veterans as props.
The GOP use Farmers as props.
The GOP use Bibles as props.
The GOP use Babies as props.
The GOP use Women as props.
The list goes on and on.
If you're not a billionaire or a corporation that donates to them they don't care about you, they are not in politics to make the world better for their voters, they're in it to stuff their pockets and harm just enough of the people who their base hates in order to keep getting elected. They don't believe in anything, they will let the world burn as long as they can maintain their power and wealth.
There is no scenario where the right will be happy with receiving equal treatment, not while their entire worldview is built around the notion that other people being equal to them is robbing them of their rights somehow, the same attitude that saw them fight against women's rights, civil rights and LGBQT+ rights. They also know receiving equal treatment online would actually be a bad thing for most of their louder voices, who absolutely benefit from special treatment on social media and youtube, with a continual stream of rule violations and harassment met with shrugs or the occasional slap on the wrist if the wider world notices.
They don't want moderation, they want the ability to moderate others and have the special treatment they receive from platforms like Facebook written into law. Right wing politicians don't care if they burn the internet down to get it because they know they the sh*tshow that kicked off 2021 has made it so much harder for social media platforms to pretend there is no problem with the behaviour of the right on their platform and tighter moderation is going to make it so much harder for them to create another Qanon or gamergate generation of disaffected idiots with heads filled with ill informed grievances that they can weaponise to replace the babyboomers who're dying as a result of their policies.
Well, if you want to launch a platform, you kind of need exclusive content ti bring in customers and to be willing to back it up financially. Like it or not, Epic are in it for the long haul and will probably succeed in the end based on the fortnight playerbase alone. People may well believe PC players will never accept them, but PC players accept punitive DRM so they'llaccept must things for prettier graphics. They may grumble about it, but the games still sell, unfortunately.
The government rebuffed offers by said companies to help with the app and squandered billions on outsourcing test and trace to a company run by a tory donor, one that the health minister used to work for. The corruption and the government's ties to the folks behind Cambridge Analytica meant a significant chunk of the population had no intention of using any ap they produced... And lo and behold the government people expected would be shady when it comes to privacy and personal data are acting shady. Better lash out at big tech to try and distract people!
It's the republican way, don't govern, don't even pretend to, just create an enemy, create laws that your colleagues will never allow to pass into law to fight said enemy and fundraise on it. Meanwhile, the next generation of republicans will grow up brainwashed by their parents into believing that this is the heart of the party platform, and what as initially a grift becomes an entrenched belief. All the while, they attack the constitution, fill the halls of power with people who you wouldn't trust to run a used car dealership and pump raw sewage into the court system and their grifty notion creeps closer to becoming law. See overturning abortion rights, the attacks on LGBQT+ rights, Christian dogma overriding science and the rule of law...
So there's no mining involved, no computers sat churning away until they burn out in the hope of generating tokens for gamblers like every other crypto?
On the post: Senator Bill Hagerty Believes Compelled Speech Is 'Liberty'; And Anyone Upset With Moderation Choices Should Be Able To Sue
Re: It's A Public Forum
Feel free to quote the line in the constitution where it says that you are guaranteed the right to the largest available audience for your free speech.
If you start yelling the n-word in a shopping mall, you will be asked to leave. If you start ranting about immigrants in the middle of a cinema, you will be asked to leave. If you start swearing at the top of your lungs in your neighbour's living room, you will be asked to leave and you know why, because being a conservative is not a magical 'get your own way' card. You are subject to the same rules of conduct as everyone else, the main difference is that in real life, they're usually unwritten but online, on moderated platforms they're laid out in black and white and conservatives have to follow them or be ejected, just the same as everyone else.
On the post: Senator Bill Hagerty Believes Compelled Speech Is 'Liberty'; And Anyone Upset With Moderation Choices Should Be Able To Sue
Because if there's one thing america needs more of, it's frivolous lawsuits by conservative karens over perceived slights.
On the post: UK Child Welfare Agency's Anti-Encryption 'Research' Ignored Everything It Didn't Want To Hear
Re:
According to government stats: In the year ending March 2019, there were 9,787 offences in which firearms were involved.
The 9,787 offences recorded in the latest year was less than half (59% lower than) the level recorded at its peak in the year ending March 2004 (24,094 offences).
•There were 33 fatalities resulting from offences involving firearms.
Given that the UK population is over 60 million, I think we're fine without more guns so people can have shooting contests, go down to Asda with a sidearm or carry an ar-15 to stand near a polling place. As much as the right wing media ecosystem would like to pretend there are vast numbers of bad guys with guns out there, the figures don't back it up.
On the post: How Do You Debate Section 230 When One Side Constantly Lies About It?
Re: That's How
Lies are lies and the truth is the truth. Right wingers do not deserve to go unchallenged just because they are on the other side of the political spectrum, and let's be honest here, that is the kind of 'fairness' you want. You want people top be completely free of any criticism, any pushback for saying things they know are false, and you don't want them to have to adhere to the rules of platforms they agreed to when they signed up to a platform, the way every other user is. You will not be happy until white republican males are a protected class, while still somehow being a persecuted minority that's also the silent majority, despite being fewer in numbers than ever before and being completely incapable of shutting up about theiur entirely imaginary grievances.
You throw around words like censorship, but as we've seen time and time again on this site, there's always some excuse when it's a right wing site doing it, 'the people banned on parler are clearly trolling', 'The Mypillow guy isn't censoring anyone despite banning swearing and what he deems blasphemy'. You are completely fine with Joel Kaplan's treatment of left wing news sources and journalism in general on facebook because it benefits far right blogs like the Daily Wire, and I sure don't recall you ever calling for the return of the fairness doctrine to traditional media.
Your biggest issue with social media and section 230 as a whole isn't that there's moderation or 'censorship', it's that the right wing aren't in charge of, and exempt from it.
On the post: Florida Governor Signs Law That Punishes Protesters For Protesting, Denies Them Bail
Re: Re:
You must hate when far right groups organise rallies and bus people in to left leaning cities like Portlant for the sole purpose of getting into fights before, during and after the event, huh? You know, the kind of thing they've been recorded planning, with people like Andy Ngo active participants, so they have more 'left wing violence' to record half of and post online for the right wing media to amplify, leaving out the beginning and end, of course, the bits that would incriminate them.
On the post: How Do You Debate Section 230 When One Side Constantly Lies About It?
Lying continually is the only way republicans can get any traction in debates as it takes the other side an hour to pick apart five minutes worth of lies. The truth needs evidence to support it, while right wing bullsh*t only needs to sound like it's kind of sort of true and to make stupid people feel angry and aggrieved.
On the post: The Trump-Hyped Foxconn Wisconsin Deal Finally Falls Completely Apart
Re: It didn't "fall apart" -- scaled down.
Fascism... You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
On the post: The Trump-Hyped Foxconn Wisconsin Deal Finally Falls Completely Apart
Re: yay for america
Thanks Alex, but you forgot to plug prepper buckets and Brain Force Plus.
On the post: The Trump-Hyped Foxconn Wisconsin Deal Finally Falls Completely Apart
Re: No Teeth
But Foxconn weren't making squat in Wisconsin to begin with. They said they were going to, the GOP threw other people's money at them because the lie would help them politically, everybody with half a brain meanwhile knew they wouldn't and, surprise, they didn't. Tariffs or no tariffs, no American jobs were outsourced, this was only ever a OR stunt fir Trump, Wisconsin republicans and Foxconn, who wanted free money and to distract people from the fact they're the iPhone parts people whose workers try to kill themselves.
On the post: The Trump-Hyped Foxconn Wisconsin Deal Finally Falls Completely Apart
And nobody who should suffer politically for this, will, as Wisconsin is a minority rule state where a party that lost an election can retain two thirds of seats.
On the post: Not All Tech Regulatory Desires Are Equal: And We Should Stop Pretending They Are
Re:
And to discourage moderation and the foolhardy notion that people on the right should be made to obey the rules they agreed to follow when they signed up to a platform the same as everyone else. If you make iot harder to spread disinformation it gets harder to radicalise otherwise wellmeaning people.
On the post: Filming Cops Is The Best Accountability Tool: Officer Derek Chauvin Convicted Of Murder For Killing George Floyd
I wonder how many recorded murders it will take before police unions and right wing politicians push for new laws criminalising people recording cops.
On the post: Apple Tells Congress That It Will Reallow Parler's App In The App Store, Now That It Has A Moderation Plan In Place
They said they had a moderation plan before, and they did, to ignore all complaints that weren't about left leaning people trolling, this will probably have the same result, but it'll take them a little longer to get there. They'll delete and ban for a few months then let it all slide again, as generating fascist content is tne entire point. The thing exists to radicalise the normies, to provide them with an orchestra composed entirely of dogwhistles, if it can't do that, it's useless to the people funding it.
On the post: The GOP Is Using Veterans As Props To Demonize Net Neutrality
The GOP use Veterans as props.
The GOP use Farmers as props.
The GOP use Bibles as props.
The GOP use Babies as props.
The GOP use Women as props.
The list goes on and on.
If you're not a billionaire or a corporation that donates to them they don't care about you, they are not in politics to make the world better for their voters, they're in it to stuff their pockets and harm just enough of the people who their base hates in order to keep getting elected. They don't believe in anything, they will let the world burn as long as they can maintain their power and wealth.
On the post: Republican's 'Big Tech Accountability' Platform Calls For Both More And Less Moderation, And A 'Not Fairness Doctrine' Fairness Doctrine
There is no scenario where the right will be happy with receiving equal treatment, not while their entire worldview is built around the notion that other people being equal to them is robbing them of their rights somehow, the same attitude that saw them fight against women's rights, civil rights and LGBQT+ rights. They also know receiving equal treatment online would actually be a bad thing for most of their louder voices, who absolutely benefit from special treatment on social media and youtube, with a continual stream of rule violations and harassment met with shrugs or the occasional slap on the wrist if the wider world notices.
They don't want moderation, they want the ability to moderate others and have the special treatment they receive from platforms like Facebook written into law. Right wing politicians don't care if they burn the internet down to get it because they know they the sh*tshow that kicked off 2021 has made it so much harder for social media platforms to pretend there is no problem with the behaviour of the right on their platform and tighter moderation is going to make it so much harder for them to create another Qanon or gamergate generation of disaffected idiots with heads filled with ill informed grievances that they can weaponise to replace the babyboomers who're dying as a result of their policies.
On the post: Platform Wars Update: Epic Store Losing $330 Million Per Year To Acquire Customers
Well, if you want to launch a platform, you kind of need exclusive content ti bring in customers and to be willing to back it up financially. Like it or not, Epic are in it for the long haul and will probably succeed in the end based on the fortnight playerbase alone. People may well believe PC players will never accept them, but PC players accept punitive DRM so they'llaccept must things for prettier graphics. They may grumble about it, but the games still sell, unfortunately.
On the post: The Pillow Dude's 'Free Speech' Social Media Website Will Moderate 'Swear Words' Because Of Course It Will
Re: Original
Except he's planning to censor blasphemy, that's a textbook case of trying to control people's beliefs and violating people's ability to speak freely.
On the post: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished: Google/Apple Criticized... For Seeking To Protect Privacy In UK Gov't Covid Contact Tracing
The government rebuffed offers by said companies to help with the app and squandered billions on outsourcing test and trace to a company run by a tory donor, one that the health minister used to work for. The corruption and the government's ties to the folks behind Cambridge Analytica meant a significant chunk of the population had no intention of using any ap they produced... And lo and behold the government people expected would be shady when it comes to privacy and personal data are acting shady. Better lash out at big tech to try and distract people!
On the post: Sens. Cruz, Hawley & Lee Show How To Take A Good Bill Idea And Make It Blatantly Unconstitutional
It's the republican way, don't govern, don't even pretend to, just create an enemy, create laws that your colleagues will never allow to pass into law to fight said enemy and fundraise on it. Meanwhile, the next generation of republicans will grow up brainwashed by their parents into believing that this is the heart of the party platform, and what as initially a grift becomes an entrenched belief. All the while, they attack the constitution, fill the halls of power with people who you wouldn't trust to run a used car dealership and pump raw sewage into the court system and their grifty notion creeps closer to becoming law. See overturning abortion rights, the attacks on LGBQT+ rights, Christian dogma overriding science and the rule of law...
On the post: Filecoin Foundation Donates $10 Million Worth Of Filecoin To Internet Archive
Re: Re:
So there's no mining involved, no computers sat churning away until they burn out in the hope of generating tokens for gamblers like every other crypto?
Next >>