Start Tdub hissy fit: What a bunch of freetards!! Why do you insist on distributing more FUD? Those new business models only work for the one or two specific people you ALWAYS point out. It won't work for everyone. You're all just a bunch of thieves. Piracy=theft=1:1 lost sale! You all owe the industry TRILLIONS of dollars!
Poor Tdub, the thunderous sound of all those freetards crossing your bridge and heading for the future while you are content to beg and plead for how things used to be from beneath the bridge. Stay Troll! Stay!
Publication + 20 years is absolutely perfect in my opinion as well!
IIRC, there was a recent study or a link to such, that indicated 90+% of revenue is made during the first 10 years after release/publication. I think 20 years is plenty of time for content creators to get paid for their work before it enters the public domain, keeping in mind that they can still make money off of the work even once it has entered PD.
Don't feel bad, our own government treats us ALL like terrorists, even when we fly within our own country!
In general, Americans love our Canadian brethren but realistically, the evil headed governments that rule our countries cause a lot of unnecessary grief for us all.
"No, the only reason they don't go lower is because (a) they have an exclusive and scarce product, and (b) they invested a lot of money to get that product, and there is no reason why they should have to just give it away."
A. It's not as exclusive and scarce as they think it is, check your torrent sites.
B. No one says they have to give it away, but lowering the price and allowing people to do what they want with the music they purchased would lead to more sales which seems to be the one thing they are concerned with.
"If an individual artist chooses to forgo the record labels and sell it themselves, more power to them. They are taking the financial risks, and they get the rewards. That is how business works."
The market will get the music they want in the format they want regardless of who sells it. The not-so-secret-to-success here is to price the music appropriately (distribution is a much smaller slice of the pie these days, quit charging more and crying because people aren't willing to pay !)and allow the purchaser to do what they want with their purchase including converting it to formats the USER can use without all the DRM crap (more useless overhead NO ONE wants to pay for)and licensing restrictions.
I rarely ever buy a CD anymore (2-3 in the last 5+ years) and I don't even bother to download music unless it is free from Amazon or other leading name company who I trust.
My general business suggestion to the music industry who has lost my business over the years?
If you want to sell me an album (remember those?) then price it at about $10, keep the DRM crap to yourself - no one wants it and it certainly isn't doing you any good, give it to me in a small variety of formats for MY convenience(FLAC, MPEG-4 ALS, WAV, and perhaps AIFF) in a single zipped download, and pay the artists 50%.
If you work with children in virtually any capacity, and one of those sub-domains was yours, you may be hard pressed to EVER find a job in your field again - that's how harmful that simple little fabrication can be for a teacher/counselor/instructor/after school program worker/custodian/teacher's aide.....
It is simply amazing that those who support these actions do not understand the irreparable harm that a simple notice on someones website/blog can be and all because they felt it was unnecessary to use "due process".
Just once I'd like to see the copyright maximalists say something along the lines of: "They didn't handle this properly at all. A quick simple trial would have nailed the offending sites properly. Unfortunately this was all handled incorrectly despite the best intentions to uphold the rights of the content producer."
I could easily understand that kind of reasonable view from the other side but have NEVER been witness to it. I wonder why that is?
"Fair Use isn't a question of "innocent until proven guilty", it is "guilty but...". You cannot claim fair use without first admitting guilt."
So Copyright laws are exactly the opposite of all the other laws in the US? You have to be guilty before you can be innocent.
Soak that up for a minute and understand why so many people are opposed to the current state of copyright laws and you may reach an epiphany of such outstanding proportions that your head just might explode.
I believe it is the show Pardon The Interruption that has a fact checker that points out erroneous statements and claims made by the commentators near the end of every show.
We should have something along these lines in the courtroom to point out the fallacies presented on the stands.
@OC, "If it was obtained illegaly there would be a subsequent process to handle that issue."
Committing a crime to attempt to prove another was committed is not a downward spiral anyone should want to start. By the way I like my 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th Amendment Rights just the way they are, thank you! Just back away from the Constitution and try not to use it to wipe your nose or ass with please!
"If they won't do it voluntarily, it is the job of the government to make them."
Citation requested.
Please show me where in the US Constitution or anywhere else where it is clearly spelled out that the job of the US gov't is to make anybody do anything related to internet based services.
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On the post: Yet Another Study Says Enforcement Won't Bring Back Consumer Spending On Music; But Will Strangle New Biz Models
Troll being troll
Tdub says: Try this failed idea. Result: Fail.
Tdub says: Wait, try it again. Result: Fail.
Tdub says: OK, now try it. Result: Fail.
Start Tdub hissy fit: What a bunch of freetards!! Why do you insist on distributing more FUD? Those new business models only work for the one or two specific people you ALWAYS point out. It won't work for everyone. You're all just a bunch of thieves. Piracy=theft=1:1 lost sale! You all owe the industry TRILLIONS of dollars!
Poor Tdub, the thunderous sound of all those freetards crossing your bridge and heading for the future while you are content to beg and plead for how things used to be from beneath the bridge. Stay Troll! Stay!
On the post: Reason #247 Why You Should Pay For The NYTimes: To Keep Its Dead Obituary Writers Employed
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IIRC, there was a recent study or a link to such, that indicated 90+% of revenue is made during the first 10 years after release/publication. I think 20 years is plenty of time for content creators to get paid for their work before it enters the public domain, keeping in mind that they can still make money off of the work even once it has entered PD.
On the post: If This Is 'Piracy' Then I Support Piracy
Re: Re: I support this.
Marcus - you've coined my new troll stamp!
Trolls Without Souls or t-dubs or TWS
I shall henceforth refer to these soulless creatures as such, thanks!
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"Patterson is being an uncooperative witness on purpose."
The fact that he explains the term his generation uses is "Xerox" has completely escaped you and your superior mind reading capabilities.
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In general, Americans love our Canadian brethren but realistically, the evil headed governments that rule our countries cause a lot of unnecessary grief for us all.
On the post: Zappos Gives Up On Canada Due To Customs Problems
Re: Re: I had always assumed shoes were "region-free"
On the post: Forget Infringement, Major Labels Should Be Worrying About Having To Pay Much Higher Royalties On Downloads
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On the post: Forget Infringement, Major Labels Should Be Worrying About Having To Pay Much Higher Royalties On Downloads
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A. It's not as exclusive and scarce as they think it is, check your torrent sites.
B. No one says they have to give it away, but lowering the price and allowing people to do what they want with the music they purchased would lead to more sales which seems to be the one thing they are concerned with.
"If an individual artist chooses to forgo the record labels and sell it themselves, more power to them. They are taking the financial risks, and they get the rewards. That is how business works."
The market will get the music they want in the format they want regardless of who sells it. The not-so-secret-to-success here is to price the music appropriately (distribution is a much smaller slice of the pie these days, quit charging more and crying because people aren't willing to pay !)and allow the purchaser to do what they want with their purchase including converting it to formats the USER can use without all the DRM crap (more useless overhead NO ONE wants to pay for)and licensing restrictions.
I rarely ever buy a CD anymore (2-3 in the last 5+ years) and I don't even bother to download music unless it is free from Amazon or other leading name company who I trust.
My general business suggestion to the music industry who has lost my business over the years?
If you want to sell me an album (remember those?) then price it at about $10, keep the DRM crap to yourself - no one wants it and it certainly isn't doing you any good, give it to me in a small variety of formats for MY convenience(FLAC, MPEG-4 ALS, WAV, and perhaps AIFF) in a single zipped download, and pay the artists 50%.
On the post: Defending The Indefensible: Lawyers Who Love Loopholes Ignoring Serious Constitutional Issues In Domain Seizures
Re: Re: Ummm...
On the post: Defending The Indefensible: Lawyers Who Love Loopholes Ignoring Serious Constitutional Issues In Domain Seizures
Re: Ummm...
On the post: Defending The Indefensible: Lawyers Who Love Loopholes Ignoring Serious Constitutional Issues In Domain Seizures
Re: 84,000 sites mistake doesn't matter?
It is simply amazing that those who support these actions do not understand the irreparable harm that a simple notice on someones website/blog can be and all because they felt it was unnecessary to use "due process".
Do you get it yet?
On the post: Defending The Indefensible: Lawyers Who Love Loopholes Ignoring Serious Constitutional Issues In Domain Seizures
Cue the parade of trolls in 3...2...1...
I could easily understand that kind of reasonable view from the other side but have NEVER been witness to it. I wonder why that is?
On the post: Big, Big Loss For Righthaven: Reposting Full Article Found To Be Fair Use
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So Copyright laws are exactly the opposite of all the other laws in the US? You have to be guilty before you can be innocent.
Soak that up for a minute and understand why so many people are opposed to the current state of copyright laws and you may reach an epiphany of such outstanding proportions that your head just might explode.
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We need ESPN justice...
We should have something along these lines in the courtroom to point out the fallacies presented on the stands.
@OC, "If it was obtained illegaly there would be a subsequent process to handle that issue."
Committing a crime to attempt to prove another was committed is not a downward spiral anyone should want to start. By the way I like my 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th Amendment Rights just the way they are, thank you! Just back away from the Constitution and try not to use it to wipe your nose or ass with please!
On the post: Does Hollywood Deserve Its Own Patriot Act?
Troll being troll
What would you do if you had a brain??
Silly troll being silly, now back under the bridge for the weekend!
On the post: 8-Track Piracy Is Killing The Music Business.... In 1976
Of course it was Steve Jobs!
/s
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Hypocrites...
~Ron Rezendes
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Citation requested.
Please show me where in the US Constitution or anywhere else where it is clearly spelled out that the job of the US gov't is to make anybody do anything related to internet based services.
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