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Google is gaining money without returning any money to originators. That's an untenable "business model" for the originators, which is the topic.
In return for the Googling listing the headline the original news site gets traffic directed to it. If Google didn't use the headline then Google's link could only say "this news site has some news".
Also, your logic applies to any search engine for anything. To be useful, the search engine's results are going to have to provide at least the title of the page linked to, and that title is something created by the page author, not the search engine. If the website owner considers that to be "theft" then they can simply throw up a robots.txt to tell all the search engines to go away.
Name which part(s) of common law you think hiding comments runs afoul of, then we'll explain why hiding comments doesn't violate it. Or if common law doesn't have parts, explain exactly what you mean by common law. If you don't provide any such info then the rest of of have no idea what you're talking about, making it impossible to answer your uppercase challenge.
There is no set of circumstances under which piracy is acceptable, nad lack of enforcement is one such circumstance.
Should copying machines be prohibited, because they can be used to pirate printed works? What about burnable CDs/DVDs and USB memory sticks? Those can also be used to pirate materials.
Email with an attached file can be used to distribute pirated material. Should email providers be required to do content ID on attachments to block piracy? If so, why not make this requirement of snail mail? Also, wouldn't this require that email can't be encrypted, since that would prevent content ID?
as everyone would be able to market everything and marketing and distribution would wind up determining who succeeds rather than quality of content.
This would be a big surprise to all of those successful Open Source projects.
The way White behaves on Twitter hardly makes him a statesman.
Statesman? He's being put forth as a subject matter expert on U.S. federal law. Behaving in a un-statesmanlike (whatever that might mean) has no bearing on the matter.
My impression was the Barnes is not threatening lawsuits against everyone who expresses the (unfounded) opinion that the students are racist. Rather, he is threatening to sue those who stated falsehoods about their actions.
The fact that Barnes is throwing around "libel per se" doesn't give me much confidence that he's skilled/smart/restrained enough to act in such a limited fashion.
While pure obstinance and covering up incompetence are possible motives for not handing over documents, another possibility is that that comes to mind is that they didn't want to tip off the Saudi government that they had a leak. In this scenario the more charitable interpretation is that they hoped that if they kept the leak open that they could use it to saved a bunch of lives in the future, as opposed to just one life now. A more cynical interpretation is that they wanted to keep the leak open in the hopes of using it in the future for a more high-profile case than simply warning a journalist of possible danger.
If we were to compare VCRs and DVD/CD burners to Internet platforms, would you say the VCRs manufacturers aren't guilty but Internet platforms are is that the manufacturers sell a physical product which (after sale) is out of their control, while Internet platforms provide a service that remains in their control? Or that it's impossible for VCRs to tell if they're engaged in illegal copying or not, while it is possible for Internet platforms? Or what?
Maybe Louis Vuitton has told its lawyers to take on the job of tracking down trademark infringers, so their lawyers sue anything that moves so as to generate more billable hours. If so, Vuitton really needs to put their lawyers on a leash.
When I saw this, what came to my mind is the idea currently going around that all white people in America today share the blame for slavery, Jim Crow laws, and other historical evils perpetrated against black people and other minorities.
So far as I can tell, the "idea currently going around" is that white people as a group indirectly benefit from those past evils, regardless of whether or not they want to. That's different than being responsible for those past evils.
"Singling out" one racial group as "being responsible" for the suffering of another race
I'm guessing Gary had in mind teaching about things like the Holocaust. It might be that the writers of the bill merely mean that collective guilt should not be assigned, like when history classes teach about the Holocaust that the teacher shouldn't claim that all Germans were guilty, but if so they should have worded it more clearly.
Re: Re: Re: Well, they're firm on silencing political opponents.
So, what, makes laws that limit the membership size of social sites? If a person wants to gain an Internet audience larger than that, they'd have to create their own private site and grows its audience on their own?
And if you put some limit on the size of social sites, would that apply to sites like Wikipedia?
Re: Well, they're firm on silencing political opponents.
I agree that Facebook should be damned. And broken up too.
Broken up how? Create some smaller companies, and randomly distribute the users amongst them?
... amplifying suicides to the whole world, ...
Are you implying that anti-trust would have the effect of reducing the size of the audience of any individual user, and also that this would be a good thing rather than an unfortunate side effect?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The latest citations show "platforms" are Ne
If search engines were smart they'd eliminate this concern by allowing this class of individuals to protect their reputations.
How, exactly? If you just allowed search engines to be sued for indexing defamatory stuff, they'd respond by just not linking to anything negative about anyone, expect for court decisions, because they can't tell ahead of hand what's defamatory or not. And that's assuming that there's some algorithmic way to determine potentially defamatory material from material which can't defamatory.
If the solution is to have a law saying that search engines must take down links to links to negative material about John Doe if John doe claims that the material is defamatory, how do you prevent that from be abused by people who claim negative material about is defamatory when it's actually true?
Chat with end-to-end encryption already relies on something like a certificate authority, so that if Alice wants to chat to Bob she can get his public key. Tampering with the certificate authority server would allow for Eve to masquerade as Bob. The proposal is to allow law enforcement to do such tampering, plus something like the following:
If the chat app has a configuration option to let Alice say that she trusts Bob so much that he can automatically join in on any existing group chat, the app should be changed so there'd be a way so Bob can silently join that existing chat, without notifying anyone already in the chat that someone new has joined. Also the app should be changed so that Bob can join the chat multiple times without alerting any user that there appears to be multiple simultaneous instances of Bob.
It will be impossible to have a fruitful conversation with you until you start naming the portions of common law which you think apply to the situation.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you "adapt" to some
In return for the Googling listing the headline the original news site gets traffic directed to it. If Google didn't use the headline then Google's link could only say "this news site has some news".
Also, your logic applies to any search engine for anything. To be useful, the search engine's results are going to have to provide at least the title of the page linked to, and that title is something created by the page author, not the search engine. If the website owner considers that to be "theft" then they can simply throw up a robots.txt to tell all the search engines to go away.
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What part(s) of common law?
Name which part(s) of common law you think hiding comments runs afoul of, then we'll explain why hiding comments doesn't violate it. Or if common law doesn't have parts, explain exactly what you mean by common law. If you don't provide any such info then the rest of of have no idea what you're talking about, making it impossible to answer your uppercase challenge.
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Oklahoma Cops Debut Tool That Allows Them To Drain Pre-Paid Cards During Traffic Stops
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Also to quote The Tick:
"Spoooooooooon!"
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Re: Defaults
Here is a UserScript which will automatically turn on markdown for all comments.
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Should copying machines be prohibited, because they can be used to pirate printed works? What about burnable CDs/DVDs and USB memory sticks? Those can also be used to pirate materials.
Email with an attached file can be used to distribute pirated material. Should email providers be required to do content ID on attachments to block piracy? If so, why not make this requirement of snail mail? Also, wouldn't this require that email can't be encrypted, since that would prevent content ID?
This would be a big surprise to all of those successful Open Source projects.
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Statesman? He's being put forth as a subject matter expert on U.S. federal law. Behaving in a un-statesmanlike (whatever that might mean) has no bearing on the matter.
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Re: Not just about "opinions"
The fact that Barnes is throwing around "libel per se" doesn't give me much confidence that he's skilled/smart/restrained enough to act in such a limited fashion.
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Maybe they didn't want to reveal their sources
While pure obstinance and covering up incompetence are possible motives for not handing over documents, another possibility is that that comes to mind is that they didn't want to tip off the Saudi government that they had a leak. In this scenario the more charitable interpretation is that they hoped that if they kept the leak open that they could use it to saved a bunch of lives in the future, as opposed to just one life now. A more cynical interpretation is that they wanted to keep the leak open in the hopes of using it in the future for a more high-profile case than simply warning a journalist of possible danger.
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If we were to compare VCRs and DVD/CD burners to Internet platforms, would you say the VCRs manufacturers aren't guilty but Internet platforms are is that the manufacturers sell a physical product which (after sale) is out of their control, while Internet platforms provide a service that remains in their control? Or that it's impossible for VCRs to tell if they're engaged in illegal copying or not, while it is possible for Internet platforms? Or what?
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Lawyers creating billable hours?
Maybe Louis Vuitton has told its lawyers to take on the job of tracking down trademark infringers, so their lawyers sue anything that moves so as to generate more billable hours. If so, Vuitton really needs to put their lawyers on a leash.
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So far as I can tell, the "idea currently going around" is that white people as a group indirectly benefit from those past evils, regardless of whether or not they want to. That's different than being responsible for those past evils.
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I think this is what is being referenced:
I'm guessing Gary had in mind teaching about things like the Holocaust. It might be that the writers of the bill merely mean that collective guilt should not be assigned, like when history classes teach about the Holocaust that the teacher shouldn't claim that all Germans were guilty, but if so they should have worded it more clearly.
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Re: Re: Re: Well, they're firm on silencing political opponents.
So, what, makes laws that limit the membership size of social sites? If a person wants to gain an Internet audience larger than that, they'd have to create their own private site and grows its audience on their own?
And if you put some limit on the size of social sites, would that apply to sites like Wikipedia?
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Re: Well, they're firm on silencing political opponents.
Broken up how? Create some smaller companies, and randomly distribute the users amongst them?
Are you implying that anti-trust would have the effect of reducing the size of the audience of any individual user, and also that this would be a good thing rather than an unfortunate side effect?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The latest citations show "platforms" are Ne
How, exactly? If you just allowed search engines to be sued for indexing defamatory stuff, they'd respond by just not linking to anything negative about anyone, expect for court decisions, because they can't tell ahead of hand what's defamatory or not. And that's assuming that there's some algorithmic way to determine potentially defamatory material from material which can't defamatory.
If the solution is to have a law saying that search engines must take down links to links to negative material about John Doe if John doe claims that the material is defamatory, how do you prevent that from be abused by people who claim negative material about is defamatory when it's actually true?
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Haven't most website taken to removing the underlines from links? I have to enforce my own user stylesheet to consistently get links underlined.
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What are the chances that the requested information will end up mysteriously missing?
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Chat with end-to-end encryption already relies on something like a certificate authority, so that if Alice wants to chat to Bob she can get his public key. Tampering with the certificate authority server would allow for Eve to masquerade as Bob. The proposal is to allow law enforcement to do such tampering, plus something like the following:
If the chat app has a configuration option to let Alice say that she trusts Bob so much that he can automatically join in on any existing group chat, the app should be changed so there'd be a way so Bob can silently join that existing chat, without notifying anyone already in the chat that someone new has joined. Also the app should be changed so that Bob can join the chat multiple times without alerting any user that there appears to be multiple simultaneous instances of Bob.
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What parts of common law?
It will be impossible to have a fruitful conversation with you until you start naming the portions of common law which you think apply to the situation.
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