There are plenty of crazy people in the world both pro and against Trump, or anything else, for that matter.
Trump is the US President. Being mentally unstable is BIG NEWS. Genuine news. And truly something to be concerned about.
I think Poe's Law applies perfectly. It's the very definition of such a case.
In the 18 months leading up to the election, the things Trump said got daily news coverage. I was asking myself if he could sink any lower, or say anything worse or more offensive. But there never seemed to be any limit. He was always able to top yesterday's definition of outrageous.
This is EXACTLY what makes Poe's Law possible. No mater how crazy of a fake false story someone might concoct, people will take it as just another example of Trump not having any limits on how crazy he might act or how far he might go.
And for a US President, that is a real problem to have.
Some years ago there was a fake story that the MPAA was going to license movies for the home based on how many comfortable chairs your room had? Essentially, so the story went, the MPAA was going to charge more to watch the movie if your room was able to hold more viewers.
This story went wild.
As TechDirt pointed out at the time, the problem wasn't that the fake story was created. The problem was that it was, on its face, very believable. Anyone could easily believe that the MPAA would resort to the most outrageous conduct and copyright or licensing overreach imaginable. The problem was that nobody could see it as sarcasm or parody.
This is the same with Trump. It is impossible to make up a story about how crazy Trump is, without it having at least a ring of truth to it.
A fake story involving Trump and aliens might significantly move the needle on people's BS detector. But the disbelief would be due to aliens, not Trump craziness.
proper board design requires maintaining proper circuit isolation between your genius detector and your bullshit detector
The other officers could let Abbot be involved so they could watch. They don't get to see such a spectacle every day. They don't have to be interested in boys to think that.
They maybe could rationalize this by justifying their presence as preventing Abbot from doing anything inappropriate. As if the entire procedure wasn't far beyond inappropriate.
TechDirt only says Abbott "allegedly molesting two teens he met coaching youth hockey".
If you follow the link you find out:
A Manassas City police detective, who was the lead investigator in a controversial teen “sexting” case last year, shot and killed himself outside his home Tuesday morning as police tried to arrest him for allegedly molesting two boys he met while coaching youth hockey in Prince William County.
That would indicate Abbott was interested in boys. Thus Abbott probably had no objection to being ordered to photograph a teen as he masturbated. The fact that other officers were present? Make of that what you will. Maybe all of them are interested in boys.
Who could even come up with this scenario of forcing a teen boy to masturbate while being photograph? Oh, yeah . . . Abbott.
Maybe Abbott planted this idea into the prosecutor's mind?
When Abbott got the order to do this, he was no doubt thinking . . . Jackpot!
Parallel Construction is a euphemism for conspiracy between law enforcement and prosecution to commit perjury before the court about what evidence was used during the investigation in order to produce the evidence being presented in court. The ends justify the means.
1. It is socially awkward in a way that real life is not. Some people I would rather avoid. There's nothing wrong with that. 2. It becomes, like YouTube, a "look at me!", "look what I did" where people get their self worth from trying to please other people. 3. It is a black hole for time.
I have to side with the court. The deception of law enforcement should definitely not affect the 15 year sentence.
What it should affect is the CONVICTION. The conviction should be thrown out, ground up into fine powder, burned, and the ashes made into a new coffee ingredient for bad cops to drink.
Re: Re: How about disclosing the workings of Stingray?
As for your correction, aren't we saying the same thing? Stingray Use implies Warrant was obtained?
I suspect that the production, testing, use of Stingray might actually be illegal, assuming it uses stolen crypto keys and/or credentials in order to merely function. I doubt that the warrant makes that legal. I suspect the court doesn't understand how Stingray works (because it is so secret) and if the court did understand, it would NOT be issuing warrants to use an illegal device to gather evidence for a prosecution.
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March is national procrastination week. (yes, really)
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Trump is the US President. Being mentally unstable is BIG NEWS. Genuine news. And truly something to be concerned about.
I think Poe's Law applies perfectly. It's the very definition of such a case.
In the 18 months leading up to the election, the things Trump said got daily news coverage. I was asking myself if he could sink any lower, or say anything worse or more offensive. But there never seemed to be any limit. He was always able to top yesterday's definition of outrageous.
This is EXACTLY what makes Poe's Law possible. No mater how crazy of a fake false story someone might concoct, people will take it as just another example of Trump not having any limits on how crazy he might act or how far he might go.
And for a US President, that is a real problem to have.
On the post: The Gorilla Channel Satire Demonstrates The Ridiculousness Of Banning Fake News
Remember back when . . .
Some years ago there was a fake story that the MPAA was going to license movies for the home based on how many comfortable chairs your room had? Essentially, so the story went, the MPAA was going to charge more to watch the movie if your room was able to hold more viewers.
This story went wild.
As TechDirt pointed out at the time, the problem wasn't that the fake story was created. The problem was that it was, on its face, very believable. Anyone could easily believe that the MPAA would resort to the most outrageous conduct and copyright or licensing overreach imaginable. The problem was that nobody could see it as sarcasm or parody.
This is the same with Trump. It is impossible to make up a story about how crazy Trump is, without it having at least a ring of truth to it.
A fake story involving Trump and aliens might significantly move the needle on people's BS detector. But the disbelief would be due to aliens, not Trump craziness.
proper board design requires maintaining proper circuit isolation between your genius detector and your bullshit detector
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Define Fake News?
Is it like genuine imitation real plastic vinyl leather?
Is it things you don't agree with?
Is it sites with certain political leanings?
Is it comedy / parody sites?
Paid for by Americans for Renewable Complaining and Sustainable Whining.
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It's broad, very broad, on many sides
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Things That Go Together
Bacon & Eggs
Politicians & Corruption
Copyright & Infinite Entitlement
Greed & Sociopath
Surveillance & Lack of Oversight ding ding ding ding ding !!!
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Let's ask Mr. Owl, He knows everything!
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Re: Re: Re: Too Harsh, really?
But since the problem currently exists, as it is, then I would say that this is the correct penalty.
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They maybe could rationalize this by justifying their presence as preventing Abbot from doing anything inappropriate. As if the entire procedure wasn't far beyond inappropriate.
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TechDirt only says Abbott "allegedly molesting two teens he met coaching youth hockey".
If you follow the link you find out:
A Manassas City police detective, who was the lead investigator in a controversial teen “sexting” case last year, shot and killed himself outside his home Tuesday morning as police tried to arrest him for allegedly molesting two boys he met while coaching youth hockey in Prince William County.
That would indicate Abbott was interested in boys. Thus Abbott probably had no objection to being ordered to photograph a teen as he masturbated. The fact that other officers were present? Make of that what you will. Maybe all of them are interested in boys.
Who could even come up with this scenario of forcing a teen boy to masturbate while being photograph? Oh, yeah . . . Abbott.
Maybe Abbott planted this idea into the prosecutor's mind?
When Abbott got the order to do this, he was no doubt thinking . . . Jackpot!
On the post: Appeals Court: Forcing A Teen To Masturbate So Cops Can Take Pictures Is A Clear Violation Of Rights
Re: Civil Lawsuit
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Parallel Construction
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Re: Spelling error
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The illusion that one side or the other side will fix the really deep problems keeps the people happy and arguing while we slide into tyranny.
Build a wall around the swamp and make the swamp pay for it.
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Bu, bu, but . . . .
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Other things wrong with Social Media
2. It becomes, like YouTube, a "look at me!", "look what I did" where people get their self worth from trying to please other people.
3. It is a black hole for time.
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Sprawl
It seems, intuitively, that a small organization is better able to keep secrets than a gigantic impersonal organization.
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I have to side with the court in this case
What it should affect is the CONVICTION. The conviction should be thrown out, ground up into fine powder, burned, and the ashes made into a new coffee ingredient for bad cops to drink.
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It sounds like the Feds need to take over
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Re: Re: How about disclosing the workings of Stingray?
I suspect that the production, testing, use of Stingray might actually be illegal, assuming it uses stolen crypto keys and/or credentials in order to merely function. I doubt that the warrant makes that legal. I suspect the court doesn't understand how Stingray works (because it is so secret) and if the court did understand, it would NOT be issuing warrants to use an illegal device to gather evidence for a prosecution.
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