Otherwise it would be like saying that once a homeowner puts a lock on their front door, they can never give anyone else a key (or permission to break a window to get in, if need be).
If in fact *only* the copyright owner was allowed to make a copy of the key - well, you as the homeowner wouldn't actually own the copyright - the company who made the lock would...
Since they're the 'owner' of the DRM, they're allowed to give permission to others to circumvent their own security if they want to.
Doesn't appear to be true..
Section 103 (17 U.S.C Sec. 1201(a)(1)) of the DMCA states:
No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
....
(A) to 「circumvent a technological measure」 means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and
(B) a technological measure 「effectively controls access to a work」 if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.
This company doesn't actually own the copyright - true? It does specifically state, "without the authority of the copyright owner".
The recording companies would hold those - that being the case, they do not have the authority to allow circumvention of DRM. At least from the way I read that law.
When you lose connection it switches to offline mode. I don't lose my connection often buy anytime I have no games have given me problems launching. You don't have to predict the future and know you wont have connection later.
Well, perhaps it just doesn't work right then - that's the other problem I've had time and again with steam.. lol
I'm not 'mad' at Steam, per se - it's a good concept, but poorly implemented - and by the way, I just tried that EA 'origin' this weekend, as my original SIM3 DVD is toast. It worked perfectly. Just for kicks, after loading up the SIM 3 - I disabled my NIC and rebooted - it worked just fine.
But I'm not a 'Steam hater' so much - it just has continually pissed me off over the years. I've learned to detest it because of the time it's wasted for me. Both my kids have accounts, we have 20+ steam games, but frankly it's too restrictive. If it doesn't work right, neither do any of your games - and that stupid cache setup downright annoys me. I prefer a normal game installation, not something buried under 14 directories in a big cache file. If that ends up corrupt, it's an hour re-downloading the game, deleting cache files and other voodoo to get it to work.
That's what I'm talking about - something that JUST PLAIN WORKS for paying customers.
Thanks for the suggestion on Origin.
And indeed, that adds value. I have too much to do between work, maintaining a house, bringing up teenagers, etc to hassle with DRM.
I'm not going to hassle with it - plain and simple. I pay for the games, I expect them to work internet or no internet. If they don't do that, I'll avoid them.
We came here expecting to talk with one of the biggest names in Hollywood. But apparently Disney doesn't want Johnny Depp’s new movie, premiering here at the Paramount, to get more exposure than his newest 'Pirates of the Caribbean' movie. So they didn't allow us to interview him, nor did they allow us to get video of him.
Good all this BS is coming to rest right in the entertainment industry's lap.
That's what he said... once installed and authenticated once, you can play offline.
Assuming... you have set it to 'offline mode' - if it catches you by surprise, you can't.
I have 50 other games I could play - but I had JUST bought the DVD for the game at the store, but then it required Steam (Fallout NV). Grabbed it on the way home, and was kinda hyped to play - but then... internet was dead - cable modem went out.
I kinda felt cheated - I mean.. I HAD THE physical DVD, but I couldn't play the game??? Is that how you treat the paying customers?
If I would have grabbed it from Torrent - I wouldn't have had the problem now, would I?
I lost interest in even playing it after that. I understand a fully online game, like a MMO or such NEEDS internet - but *NOT* Fallout NV.
It's in the closet now, gathering dust.... never have played it or even watched the intro. I kinda forgot about it after getting the other game.
It's DRM still - doesn't matter how you spin it. Because of a lack of service on my end; the game I PAID for was unplayable.
Unplayable - why? Because I didn't buy it? No, because of DRM.
Hey - after working a week 900 miles away, 12 hours a day or so and a 10 hour drive home - I just plain wanted it to WORK.
Steam didn't. EA did.
From my point of view as a PAYING customer - that was all that mattered, period.
Since then - I haven't added anymore games to my existing 15 on Steam. It let me down when I most needed the relaxation. That's all that matters - the bang for my buck and the ability to use the stuff I purchase as I want to.
And I had zero problems with the EA game, it worked just fine, with no internet.
After that you can play offline as much as you want. If the connection goes while you're logged in, you're not kicked out, it'll keep working as normal.
Just don't come home on a Friday after traveling for work - with dead internet and the next available tech will be on Tuesday - Steam not in offline mode..
I'm going to regret this, but can you explain how Steam is DRM?
No internet - no game. My ISP was down for a day, I ran to the store, bought a game - but couldn't play because I couldn't fire up steam - none of the other games worked either - didn't expect it, so it wasn't in offline mode.
Enjoy the taste while it lasts because it is going away fast. It is a sad time we live in when people are giving up their rights without so much as a squeak. I am sure the founding fathers were worried about our rights being taken away but I wonder if the thought ever crossed their mind that we would be gladly giving them up one day?
And you can prod a sleeping bear - without it even moving for a while.. but eventually, it'll wake up - and when it does.. it'll be pissed.
"We found out later on that, Constitutionally, you can not ban a type of music," said Ma. "Plus, I, like my opponents said, I didn't really know what was going on."
I suspect most TechDirt bloggers/commenters were already WELL aware of this.
Does that mean that the defacto blogger out on the intarwebz is more qualified for political office than the candidates in them now?
Yes, I do think that's the case. Day after day, we get more evidence of that, in massive supply. There is no shortage of supply of political idiocy, not even a slight one.
But I will give credit where it's due - at least one comments of hers seems to be accurate, "I didn't really know what was going on."
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Otherwise it would be like saying that once a homeowner puts a lock on their front door, they can never give anyone else a key (or permission to break a window to get in, if need be).
If in fact *only* the copyright owner was allowed to make a copy of the key - well, you as the homeowner wouldn't actually own the copyright - the company who made the lock would...
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Doesn't appear to be true..
Section 103 (17 U.S.C Sec. 1201(a)(1)) of the DMCA states:
No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
....
(A) to 「circumvent a technological measure」 means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and
(B) a technological measure 「effectively controls access to a work」 if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.
This company doesn't actually own the copyright - true? It does specifically state, "without the authority of the copyright owner".
The recording companies would hold those - that being the case, they do not have the authority to allow circumvention of DRM. At least from the way I read that law.
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The trolls have officially been trolled. Maybe they should send the court a cease and desist for using their name in documents.
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Well, perhaps it just doesn't work right then - that's the other problem I've had time and again with steam.. lol
I'm not 'mad' at Steam, per se - it's a good concept, but poorly implemented - and by the way, I just tried that EA 'origin' this weekend, as my original SIM3 DVD is toast. It worked perfectly. Just for kicks, after loading up the SIM 3 - I disabled my NIC and rebooted - it worked just fine.
But I'm not a 'Steam hater' so much - it just has continually pissed me off over the years. I've learned to detest it because of the time it's wasted for me. Both my kids have accounts, we have 20+ steam games, but frankly it's too restrictive. If it doesn't work right, neither do any of your games - and that stupid cache setup downright annoys me. I prefer a normal game installation, not something buried under 14 directories in a big cache file. If that ends up corrupt, it's an hour re-downloading the game, deleting cache files and other voodoo to get it to work.
That's what I'm talking about - something that JUST PLAIN WORKS for paying customers.
Thanks for the suggestion on Origin.
And indeed, that adds value. I have too much to do between work, maintaining a house, bringing up teenagers, etc to hassle with DRM.
I'm not going to hassle with it - plain and simple. I pay for the games, I expect them to work internet or no internet. If they don't do that, I'll avoid them.
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Good all this BS is coming to rest right in the entertainment industry's lap.
Enjoy.
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Assuming... you have set it to 'offline mode' - if it catches you by surprise, you can't.
I have 50 other games I could play - but I had JUST bought the DVD for the game at the store, but then it required Steam (Fallout NV). Grabbed it on the way home, and was kinda hyped to play - but then... internet was dead - cable modem went out.
I kinda felt cheated - I mean.. I HAD THE physical DVD, but I couldn't play the game??? Is that how you treat the paying customers?
If I would have grabbed it from Torrent - I wouldn't have had the problem now, would I?
I lost interest in even playing it after that. I understand a fully online game, like a MMO or such NEEDS internet - but *NOT* Fallout NV.
It's in the closet now, gathering dust.... never have played it or even watched the intro. I kinda forgot about it after getting the other game.
It's DRM still - doesn't matter how you spin it. Because of a lack of service on my end; the game I PAID for was unplayable.
Unplayable - why? Because I didn't buy it? No, because of DRM.
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Hey - after working a week 900 miles away, 12 hours a day or so and a 10 hour drive home - I just plain wanted it to WORK.
Steam didn't. EA did.
From my point of view as a PAYING customer - that was all that mattered, period.
Since then - I haven't added anymore games to my existing 15 on Steam. It let me down when I most needed the relaxation. That's all that matters - the bang for my buck and the ability to use the stuff I purchase as I want to.
And I had zero problems with the EA game, it worked just fine, with no internet.
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Just don't come home on a Friday after traveling for work - with dead internet and the next available tech will be on Tuesday - Steam not in offline mode..
So I went and bought an EA game.
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No internet - no game. My ISP was down for a day, I ran to the store, bought a game - but couldn't play because I couldn't fire up steam - none of the other games worked either - didn't expect it, so it wasn't in offline mode.
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And you can prod a sleeping bear - without it even moving for a while.. but eventually, it'll wake up - and when it does.. it'll be pissed.
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Is that unexpected?
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I suspect most TechDirt bloggers/commenters were already WELL aware of this.
Does that mean that the defacto blogger out on the intarwebz is more qualified for political office than the candidates in them now?
Yes, I do think that's the case. Day after day, we get more evidence of that, in massive supply. There is no shortage of supply of political idiocy, not even a slight one.
But I will give credit where it's due - at least one comments of hers seems to be accurate, "I didn't really know what was going on."
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No dissent you serfs! You MUST obey his lordship, you must do it with a happy face.
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