It's what has become of the doctrine of 'Qualified Immunity' and innocents are being murdered by the police.
Here's a short list of some of them:
• Jonathan Ferrell — Charlotte NC, running to the police after surviving an auto accident….gets gunned down. • John Winkler — LA, gunned down running towards a sheriff's deputy as he was fleeing the man who had held him hostage with a knife. • Michael Davidson — USAF, gunned down by a state trooper as he was walking towards him after a traffic accident he was involved in. • Alfred Redwing — Albuquerque, NM, unarmed and shot on the front porch of his home after he'd been SWAT'd and was dumb enough to come out into the direct line of fire as the police had demanded. • Eric Scott — Las Vegas, NV, gunned down in the Costco parking lot because he had a concealed carry permit. • Tamir Rice — 12-year old playing in a Cleveland, OH, park with an airsoft pistol. Police shot him dead within 2 seconds of their arrival on the scene. • Aiyana Stanley-Jones — 7-year old in Detroit. Shot by police while she slept on a couch. • John Crawford III, 22, was fatally shot by law enforcement inside a Beavercreek, Ohio Walmart on Aug. 5 within minutes of a 911 call from a fellow Walmart shopper. He was carrying a BB gun he considered buying. • Dillon Taylor — Unarmed. Killed by the Salt Lake City police because he moved his hands when the officer demanded he show his hands. The DA found no reason to charge the officer. • Jose Guerena — Tucson, AZ. Shot 60 times in a no-knock drug raid that found no drugs. He had the temerity to think the crashing of his door down was a home invasion and was prepared to defend his wife. So they shot him. • D’Andre Berghardt — Las Vegas, NV, had been walking down the highway trying to hitch a ride when police approached him. His behavior was erratic, and eventually he tried to climb inside a police vehicle — at which point he was shot dead.
Personally….I like what Abraham Lincoln had to say about this sort of business….
Our safety, our liberty, depends upon preserving the Constitution of the United States as our fathers made it inviolate. The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. -- Abraham Lincoln
What was it the Founding Fathers wrote in that old document featured in the movie National Treasure?
... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them [the People] under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Or as one of those men later said….
A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. -- President James Madison
The State, hiding information about what it HAS done and/or IS doing is prima facia evidence that the State is corrupt.
All I can offer is personal experience, as I stated above. People I associate with marvel at my calm in the face of felony charges by police who claim—falsely—that I threatened them. I face up to 9 years in prison and $300K in fines if convicted.
I pray for these police officers every night and for the DA—whom I've worked with on civic projects—and his rep in this case, that this cup will pass from me. But whatever happens….
….God IS 'in control'.
And therein lies the ultimate comfort. No matter what happens this side of the proverbial 'pale', I have confidence in my hope as to where I'll be on the other side of it.
And AGAIN, the lack of such confidence in those poor souls who decide that death by suicide is better than Life in the present is tragic.
RE: Theocracies? In the US?
Hardly. How familiar are you with REAL theocracies, e.g., Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc., etc., etc.? You know. Places where women are stoned to death by the public or murdered by their male family members and homosexuals are hung.
THOSE are theocracies.
RE: A Good Education
It SHOULD come from both parents AND the public education system.
Some time back, I sat on a local citizens government oversight commission.
In one of the meetings, the two reps from the local institutions of higher education—one community college and one state university campus—both complained that 38% of the students coming to them from the local K-12 districts were incapable of reading at the level necessary for higher learning.
I had the temerity to ask them "Why?"
The silence was defining.
All eyes of the commission turned to the reps from the two K-12 school districts.
They blamed the parents….
The whole public and higher education systems in this country is defunct, except for here and there, e.g., charter schools and home schoolers. [NOTE: Home schooled students are continually taking national championships in various fields, e.g., spelling and geography competitions.]
RE: Kids Learning the Hard Way
I'll believe kids are learning the hard knocks of life when they are 'impoverished' and don't have a cell phone. People who own cell phones and have cable television in their home are not 'impoverished'. Kids in America live like kings compared to those in sub-Sahara Africa who don't have such conveniences while suffering from malaria, sleeping sickness and numerous other maladies.
Regards,
Chuck(le) [God is alive….and Airborne-Ranger qualified. -- Chaplain, US Army Airborne Chapel, Benning School for Boys, a.k.a., the US Army Infantry School]
Snowden is the Danial Ellsberg of this generation.
For those who don't remember—because they weren't cogent, let alone alive back then—Ellsberg who worked for the Pentagon during the Viet Nam War released what are know as The Pentagon Papers. It was an exposé of the dirty things the military was doing in the Viet Nam War.
Ellsberg was declared a traitor by the government back then, just as Snowden has been by this government.
[History repeats itself. That's one of the problems with History.]
I have an alternate suggestion as to the rise of suicides. Not only those of teenagers but of combat veterans as well.
In the first place, the vaunted American public education system doesn't teach the young that Life is 'tough'. That there are hard knocks along the way and they need to learn to roll with the punches.
Additionally, there is a great lack of God, as in the love of Christ, in their lives. A safety net for dealing with troubles. The sure knowledge that despite their thoughts that nobody loves them, there is One who does. And He's a very powerful lover of their lives and spirit.
In all the proverbial 'slings and arrows of outrageous fortune', I've found that if I give my troubles to Him, I find a peace of mind and heart that sees me through. And that is especially needed in the trials I am facing today…charged with menacing a police officer when I thought I was experiencing a home invasion in the dark of night. I had been SWAT'd.
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Re: Black and White thinking much? (no pun intended)
Try not to be so dense.
Every untruth is a stab at the fabric of human society. Especially when it's by Law 'enforcement' officers.
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Re: Re: Re: I disagree completely. There are good people. We must
If they value their lives or income over the Truth….
….they are 'evil'.
Evil, adj., Knowing the Truth but denying it.
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Re: Re: Re: I disagree completely. There are good people. We must
Based on my experience—being SWAT'd last January—there are none in my department. Otherwise the lies told against me would have been shouted down.
Instead, all the recordings handed over to my attorney indicated that all the ones I've dealt with in this matter are pathological liars.
Show me a 'good' one and I'll show you someone who is covering for someone else.
Probably out of fear of losing their job….if not their life for 'ratting out' another.
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Re: Re: Laws gone crazy
It's what has become of the doctrine of 'Qualified Immunity' and innocents are being murdered by the police.
Here's a short list of some of them:
• Jonathan Ferrell — Charlotte NC, running to the police after surviving an auto accident….gets gunned down.
• John Winkler — LA, gunned down running towards a sheriff's deputy as he was fleeing the man who had held him hostage with a knife.
• Michael Davidson — USAF, gunned down by a state trooper as he was walking towards him after a traffic accident he was involved in.
• Alfred Redwing — Albuquerque, NM, unarmed and shot on the front porch of his home after he'd been SWAT'd and was dumb enough to come out into the direct line of fire as the police had demanded.
• Eric Scott — Las Vegas, NV, gunned down in the Costco parking lot because he had a concealed carry permit.
• Tamir Rice — 12-year old playing in a Cleveland, OH, park with an airsoft pistol. Police shot him dead within 2 seconds of their arrival on the scene.
• Aiyana Stanley-Jones — 7-year old in Detroit. Shot by police while she slept on a couch.
• John Crawford III, 22, was fatally shot by law enforcement inside a Beavercreek, Ohio Walmart on Aug. 5 within minutes of a 911 call from a fellow Walmart shopper. He was carrying a BB gun he considered buying.
• Dillon Taylor — Unarmed. Killed by the Salt Lake City police because he moved his hands when the officer demanded he show his hands. The DA found no reason to charge the officer.
• Jose Guerena — Tucson, AZ. Shot 60 times in a no-knock drug raid that found no drugs. He had the temerity to think the crashing of his door down was a home invasion and was prepared to defend his wife. So they shot him.
• D’Andre Berghardt — Las Vegas, NV, had been walking down the highway trying to hitch a ride when police approached him. His behavior was erratic, and eventually he tried to climb inside a police vehicle — at which point he was shot dead.
Qualified Immunity = Kill with Impunity
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Re: I disagree completely. There are good people. We must
Is a cop 'good' if they are aware of lying, cheating, stealing or assaulting or killing an innocent and DO NOTHING ABOUT IT?
There are fewer 'good' cops than you would like to believe.
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Re: Good people elected to change the law.
The wool was pulled over your eyes.
He's the proverbial wolf-in-sheeps-clothing as a candidate.
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Re: Re:
Qualified Immunity = Kill with Impunity
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More Than Merely Recording Police
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Re: ADDENDUM
Our safety, our liberty, depends upon preserving the Constitution of the United States as our fathers made it inviolate. The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. -- Abraham Lincoln
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What was it the Founding Fathers wrote in that old document featured in the movie National Treasure?
... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them [the People] under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Or as one of those men later said….
A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. -- President James Madison
The State, hiding information about what it HAS done and/or IS doing is prima facia evidence that the State is corrupt.
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Re: Re: Why?
All I can offer is personal experience, as I stated above. People I associate with marvel at my calm in the face of felony charges by police who claim—falsely—that I threatened them. I face up to 9 years in prison and $300K in fines if convicted.
I pray for these police officers every night and for the DA—whom I've worked with on civic projects—and his rep in this case, that this cup will pass from me. But whatever happens….
….God IS 'in control'.
And therein lies the ultimate comfort. No matter what happens this side of the proverbial 'pale', I have confidence in my hope as to where I'll be on the other side of it.
And AGAIN, the lack of such confidence in those poor souls who decide that death by suicide is better than Life in the present is tragic.
RE: Theocracies? In the US?
Hardly. How familiar are you with REAL theocracies, e.g., Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc., etc., etc.? You know. Places where women are stoned to death by the public or murdered by their male family members and homosexuals are hung.
THOSE are theocracies.
RE: A Good Education
It SHOULD come from both parents AND the public education system.
Some time back, I sat on a local citizens government oversight commission.
In one of the meetings, the two reps from the local institutions of higher education—one community college and one state university campus—both complained that 38% of the students coming to them from the local K-12 districts were incapable of reading at the level necessary for higher learning.
I had the temerity to ask them "Why?"
The silence was defining.
All eyes of the commission turned to the reps from the two K-12 school districts.
They blamed the parents….
The whole public and higher education systems in this country is defunct, except for here and there, e.g., charter schools and home schoolers. [NOTE: Home schooled students are continually taking national championships in various fields, e.g., spelling and geography competitions.]
RE: Kids Learning the Hard Way
I'll believe kids are learning the hard knocks of life when they are 'impoverished' and don't have a cell phone. People who own cell phones and have cable television in their home are not 'impoverished'. Kids in America live like kings compared to those in sub-Sahara Africa who don't have such conveniences while suffering from malaria, sleeping sickness and numerous other maladies.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[God is alive….and Airborne-Ranger qualified. -- Chaplain, US Army Airborne Chapel, Benning School for Boys, a.k.a., the US Army Infantry School]
P.S. So am I…..
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We Have All Been Here Before
For those who don't remember—because they weren't cogent, let alone alive back then—Ellsberg who worked for the Pentagon during the Viet Nam War released what are know as The Pentagon Papers. It was an exposé of the dirty things the military was doing in the Viet Nam War.
Ellsberg was declared a traitor by the government back then, just as Snowden has been by this government.
[History repeats itself. That's one of the problems with History.]
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
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Why?
In the first place, the vaunted American public education system doesn't teach the young that Life is 'tough'. That there are hard knocks along the way and they need to learn to roll with the punches.
Additionally, there is a great lack of God, as in the love of Christ, in their lives. A safety net for dealing with troubles. The sure knowledge that despite their thoughts that nobody loves them, there is One who does. And He's a very powerful lover of their lives and spirit.
In all the proverbial 'slings and arrows of outrageous fortune', I've found that if I give my troubles to Him, I find a peace of mind and heart that sees me through. And that is especially needed in the trials I am facing today…charged with menacing a police officer when I thought I was experiencing a home invasion in the dark of night. I had been SWAT'd.
No Christ. No Peace. Know Christ. Know Peace.
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