Ed C's situation is more like your restaurant situation if the waiter offered you a free cup of coffee, but on the condition that he tie your hands behind your back before you can drink it. Sure, you can still find a way to drink it, but they've made it really really hard for you to enjoy it.
I've noticed in the last few years that the theatres in my city have been re-investing in themselves by putting in better audio systems, seats and projectors. It is by far the best way for them to earn my dollars, and even though my closest theatre is undergoing major construction in the lobby now, they refitted all the theatres with new seats first and i've seen more movies in the last 2 months than i have in the last year because the experience is more enjoyable.
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I think it's a very good analogy. The horse and buggy v automobile comparison can be looked as part of the transportation industry.
Take that analogy and apply it to the music industry. Both the old-school record companies and the internet are trying to do the same thing: music distribution. The innovator will win out when they can provide the same basic service at increased speed and convenience, and lower cost of doing business.
If these patents had gone into the public domain, then everyone would benefit from having this tech available to all manufacturers. That would have been of far greater benefit.
I always find Nina's comics to be at least a little funny. Everyone has a different opinion on what is and isn't funny, and asking sarcastically if they are supposed to be funny or not isn't going to change that.
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"His views on serving customers end up the same as those of Murdoch or the New York Times."
Let's get something straight: you and I aren't Mike's customers. We are his readers. This is his blog, and I appreciate seeing more pieces by other writers. If you don't, move on to a different article or a different blog.
"When I say buy, that means "obtain through legit channels". That could include movie rentals, netflix, PPV, Hotel net, and all of those other ways that the content is made available legally. They don't have to buy a movie ticket or buy a DVD to be buyers. They just have to end up having their desires for the product satisfied by paying channels.
You have it backwards (again). People are already going those routes, even though infringing routes are available. Why? Because they're offering added value. Add more value and people will do that no matter what. Take away value and you just have unintended consequences."
I agree with this statement 100%. Netflix has only been in Canada for a year, and i am very happy to provide them my $8/month. I get lots of content that i want, in a very convenient way. And the best part for the studios? At the end of it all, if i cancel my membership, they have provided me no physical product, nothing that has cost them money directly by me. It's practically pure gravy for them.
I think the point of the article was still made: Disney profits massively from the public domain and from other sources, while doing everything in it's power to ensure that no other entity can benefit from their own creativity.
I don't disagree that the FBI should be investigating these attacks, but it will be interesting to see if anything actually comes of it, not to mention finding out the collateral damage caused in the hunt for lulz.
I would love to see groups like Anon and Lulz build an actual legal business around hacking. They are showing with amazing speed just how vulnerable and outdated alot of sites are, sites which collect enormous amounts of personal data from their customers. Exposing those vulnerabilities could be really good in the long term if it means that companies with a large internet presence / community are required to actually respect their clients information and be on constant vigil against attacks.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if the labels could get past the whole 'licensing music you already own' and try and think up ways to turn these cloud services into opportunities to sell more music to people. To borrow from Netflix, create a way to give decent recommendations on music not in your locker that you might be interested in, and then provide a way to demo the music. Apple already has iTunes, why can't this be a natural extension? Oops, i probably should have patented this before i said anything.
I believe he was referring to the fact that the US has passed laws saying that another country cannot hold their citizens liable for something on the internet that might be illegal in another country. It wasn't being implied that if you are in the US committing an internet related crime that is illegal in the US that you are not liable.
You're analogy would be more correct if you said "a man was on the left side of the street firing a gun into the air. On the left side of the street, this is legal. The police on the right side of the street didn't like this, so they pressured the people on the left side of the street to push this man onto their side of the street so they could persecute him"
In this case though, i'd say it's less of a cash grab, and more of an easy target for who to prosecute. Two companies, or potentially hundreds or thousands of companies?
Either way, i don't think Apple or Google should be the only ones being held accountable.
How does that warrant drawn weapons? Was he wielding a deadly weapon? Was he driving at the police in an aggressive manor that indicated he wanted to attack them with his car? The man did NOTHING WRONG, the officer shouldn't have told him to stop for doing NOTHING WRONG! The police need to show better judgement.
"To be brutally honest, at the point they start making sarcastic responses about 'what is dancing', 'what if you're out of time when making movements...', etc etc is when I lost total respect for these 'dancers'. What response did they expect out of the cops? "Oh we're sorry, carry on!"... hardly!"
The entire point of them asking those questions, sarcasm or not, was to get the officer to provide more information. If the officers can't even site the law that they are going to be arrested for, then those officers have no grounds on which to arrest the dancers. Another point with questioning "what is dance" is that it is such a broad definition. The first couple arrested were practically swaying, there was no noticeable footwork. If they went onto "So You Think You Can Dance", they would be on the gag reel.
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Take that analogy and apply it to the music industry. Both the old-school record companies and the internet are trying to do the same thing: music distribution. The innovator will win out when they can provide the same basic service at increased speed and convenience, and lower cost of doing business.
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"His views on serving customers end up the same as those of Murdoch or the New York Times."
Let's get something straight: you and I aren't Mike's customers. We are his readers. This is his blog, and I appreciate seeing more pieces by other writers. If you don't, move on to a different article or a different blog.
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You have it backwards (again). People are already going those routes, even though infringing routes are available. Why? Because they're offering added value. Add more value and people will do that no matter what. Take away value and you just have unintended consequences."
I agree with this statement 100%. Netflix has only been in Canada for a year, and i am very happy to provide them my $8/month. I get lots of content that i want, in a very convenient way. And the best part for the studios? At the end of it all, if i cancel my membership, they have provided me no physical product, nothing that has cost them money directly by me. It's practically pure gravy for them.
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I would love to see groups like Anon and Lulz build an actual legal business around hacking. They are showing with amazing speed just how vulnerable and outdated alot of sites are, sites which collect enormous amounts of personal data from their customers. Exposing those vulnerabilities could be really good in the long term if it means that companies with a large internet presence / community are required to actually respect their clients information and be on constant vigil against attacks.
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You know what they say...
Let's just hope they don't employ this tactic on terrorists...
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Either way, i don't think Apple or Google should be the only ones being held accountable.
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The entire point of them asking those questions, sarcasm or not, was to get the officer to provide more information. If the officers can't even site the law that they are going to be arrested for, then those officers have no grounds on which to arrest the dancers. Another point with questioning "what is dance" is that it is such a broad definition. The first couple arrested were practically swaying, there was no noticeable footwork. If they went onto "So You Think You Can Dance", they would be on the gag reel.
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