"So you're saying that Section 112 of the Patent Act is a myth?"
This is another example of the legal process failing the citizenry. People ask for reality, people cite reality, people cite experience, and the legal system gives them jargon and paperwork.
Section 112 of the Patent Act exists, if you say so. But it exists in the same sense that I have a book at home where section 112 says that the sun rises in the West, and sets in the North every morning.
You can write any amount of counter-factual laws. That doesn't make the content of the laws truthful.
Well, copyright per se could clearly be used to prevent free speech, prevent transfer of information, prevent a large number of activities that we (society in general) find advantageous, or worthwhile. Ya with me so far?
So our representative government put in "escape valves", like fair use, where anyone taking small excerpts (or maybe even entire reprints) for criticism, education or other uses doesn't have to ask permission. Fair use exists to prevent bad things from arising from copyright, as they arose from earlier instantions, like the Statute of Anne.
Here comes the hard part: a hypertext link isn't even an excerpt of an electronic document. It's more like the street address of a library and a card catalog number, so that a human can find a particular book. So you can't really infringe upon "intellectual property" by linking to something. Just as it's not rude in real life to give someone directions to an address, it's not rude on the internet to link to something. The HTML containing the link doesn't even really *do* anything, it's all in the browser, and the browser's user clicking on the link.
Now, that's a lot of material to comprehend, especially for a beginner, so be sure to post follow-up questions here.
Doesn't merely saying the truth sometimes have the power to take all the power out of what you talk about?
Saying "This is what we want, and this is what we are going to have, end of discussion" would make any laws derived from ACTA into something akin to a Caesar's decree, something minimally, grudgingly, enforced, but not respected.
Saying that about enough laws, and the whole legal structure would get called into question. I personally would think the legitimacy of a legal system where things like ACTA get decreed would be minimal. I just might become a scofflaw, with only official respect for "officers" of the "court", "judges", "laws" and "legislators".
I mean, you just demonstrated complete ignorance of basic, basic market economics.
But go ahead, follow that path to paradox. I'd recommend that you start by not putting insults in your responses. That makes you look childish, even if it just might score points with some judges and some jurors.
Educate me. What other costs should I be including in a distinction between a physical good, and a digital good? And how, exactly, would that effect Epic Games pricing, or business model? I'm open to suggestion.
My takeaway from ACTA is that you can stonewall by being boring. The ACTA people, from the US Trade Rep office on down, just bore people, critics, sychophantic lawmakers, everyone. The ACTA people are boring beyond any previous benchmark.
The dogged boringness seems to have worked. Nobody's too excited about it at all.
On the high end, Bentley, Ferrari, Lamborghini can make money with hand-made high style cars. On the low end Hyundai can get by on mass-producing mass-market cars. Looks to me like there's everything in-between, too.
But I bet both Ferrari and Hyundai management is sensitive to cost of production, they're just sensitive to different aspects.
But the Good Ol' Car Analogy doesn't hold water. Once tooling for a car gets set up and processes figured out, time and cost to produce go to a minimum, but still quite high, value. A car is a physical good, and just raw materials have a cost. But a video game, that's a digital good. Once built, it has a near-zero cost of reproduction. In a competitive market, the cost of a good should fall to the marginal cost of production, near zero. That's simple free market economics. The marginal cost of production of a car is still large compared to a digital good.
Supposing some use was not deemed fair use (take it to court for a real decision) it would be "infringement" and not "theft".
For theft to happen, the artist would have to have use of something taken away involuntarily. The artist never lost use of the art. That's an important enough distinction that even the "Intellectual Property" maximalists should want to make it.
You know, you're correct, the actual testimony of the folks on both sides of the deal was that the intent was to transfer the copyrights.
But most of those same people stood to make some serious money if SCOG was granted the copyrights. So, maybe we have to weight that testimony, and find it wanting.
Unfortunately, all of the documents showed that the intent was to NOT transfer the copyrights.
Given what we know about eye witness testimony, especially that of people who stand to make money, it's best we assume that the intent was as documented, not as remembered.
Tor Braham specifically kept the records because he was aware of the gravity of the sale, the historic nature of sellin Unix itself. He knew that what he was doing was important, probably because of his background in IP law.
Second, he was a *partner* at Wilson Sonsini. I understand that law firms handle a lot of different kinds of legal work, but still, Wilson Sonsini partner pretty much qualifies as an IP specialist, don't you think? Especially in the mid 90s, before all the IP maximalism got ramped up?
Third, quit while you're ahead. Yes, a Good Lawyer just keeps going in hopes that something will stick, but it does your personal case no good in this particular venue. Refusing to give up makes you look illogical.
How do you account for the outside counsel to Novell, Tor Braham, keeping track of essentially everything that he did, and having it all available for his declaration in the SCOG v Novell Slander of Title case?
In his declaration, Braham reveals that he was a specialist in "complex corporate transactions", as a partner in Wilson Sonsini.
It seems that your entire thesis is wrong: not only did Novell engage specialists for counsel, that very specialist kept elaborate records because he understood the gravity and potential historicity of the transaction.
The only things I've ever downloaded via BitTorrent are Slackware Linux ISO images. That seems to be the preferred method of distribution of Slackware according to Slackware.com itself, near the time of release of a new version.
Why do the Dutch Publishers want to make me into a criminal?
This plan is extremely silly. All it does is make "The Internet" into some kind of a unicast medium, like Tee Vee or Radio. "We publish the Content, you pay for the content". That's a load of rubbish.
I watched this yesterday, and I had much the same reaction. It seems like a heavy-handed joke, but if you think about in a deliberately naive way, it makes the US Judicial Branch into a literal mechanism for hammering people doing commonplace things (sharing a video with other fans) into conforming.
It even has the Techdirt Troll's Obsession with getting an experienced copyright lawyer to judge infringement or not. If they were telling the truth they wouldn't have put this weird advice in.
I'm guessing that some group at youtube tricked a really obsessive "experienced copyright lawyer" to go completely overboard, and then had an animator with a sense of humor illustrate the overboard nature of experienced copyright lawyering.
Re: It doesn't look like the FBI is doing any programming...
Of course the FBI isn't writing any software. Ever heard of the "Virtual Case File" fiasco? (http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/who-killed-the-virtual-case-file)
The FBI has traditionally been an all-IBM shop, in particular, an all-mainframe shop. The FBI's first website, way back when, was hosted ON A NASA MACHINE. That's right, the FBI didn't have anything that could run a web server in 1995 or so.
The internal FBI culture probably prevents them from having anyone tech-savvy enough to do this kind of thing.
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No, I've had a car stolen from me, and then it ended in an impound lot. Note: stolen, not infringed upon. By the Bad Car Analogy, anything infringed upon, but not legally acknowledged as such should be impounded (seized!) until someone drops by to pick it up, after paying "towing fees" and "storage costs" for their stolen Most Holy Intellectual Property.
So you believe that ever bad analogy in an argument belongs to a person who has been through a logic class and awarded a good grade?
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This is another example of the legal process failing the citizenry. People ask for reality, people cite reality, people cite experience, and the legal system gives them jargon and paperwork.
Section 112 of the Patent Act exists, if you say so. But it exists in the same sense that I have a book at home where section 112 says that the sun rises in the West, and sets in the North every morning.
You can write any amount of counter-factual laws. That doesn't make the content of the laws truthful.
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It seems an awful lot like the special pleading fallacy (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/special-pleading.html).
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Re: Bustin' That FUD!
So our representative government put in "escape valves", like fair use, where anyone taking small excerpts (or maybe even entire reprints) for criticism, education or other uses doesn't have to ask permission. Fair use exists to prevent bad things from arising from copyright, as they arose from earlier instantions, like the Statute of Anne.
Here comes the hard part: a hypertext link isn't even an excerpt of an electronic document. It's more like the street address of a library and a card catalog number, so that a human can find a particular book. So you can't really infringe upon "intellectual property" by linking to something. Just as it's not rude in real life to give someone directions to an address, it's not rude on the internet to link to something. The HTML containing the link doesn't even really *do* anything, it's all in the browser, and the browser's user clicking on the link.
Now, that's a lot of material to comprehend, especially for a beginner, so be sure to post follow-up questions here.
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Also, you exhibit prejudice. "Retarded" is a fairly bad word, and inappropriate in this context.
A prejuediced coward, that's all you are.
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Saying "This is what we want, and this is what we are going to have, end of discussion" would make any laws derived from ACTA into something akin to a Caesar's decree, something minimally, grudgingly, enforced, but not respected.
Saying that about enough laws, and the whole legal structure would get called into question. I personally would think the legitimacy of a legal system where things like ACTA get decreed would be minimal. I just might become a scofflaw, with only official respect for "officers" of the "court", "judges", "laws" and "legislators".
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I mean, you just demonstrated complete ignorance of basic, basic market economics.
But go ahead, follow that path to paradox. I'd recommend that you start by not putting insults in your responses. That makes you look childish, even if it just might score points with some judges and some jurors.
Educate me. What other costs should I be including in a distinction between a physical good, and a digital good? And how, exactly, would that effect Epic Games pricing, or business model? I'm open to suggestion.
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My takeaway on ACTA
My takeaway from ACTA is that you can stonewall by being boring. The ACTA people, from the US Trade Rep office on down, just bore people, critics, sychophantic lawmakers, everyone. The ACTA people are boring beyond any previous benchmark.
The dogged boringness seems to have worked. Nobody's too excited about it at all.
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My takeaway on ACTA
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Re: Ferrari vs Hyundai, cost to build
On the high end, Bentley, Ferrari, Lamborghini can make money with hand-made high style cars. On the low end Hyundai can get by on mass-producing mass-market cars. Looks to me like there's everything in-between, too.
But I bet both Ferrari and Hyundai management is sensitive to cost of production, they're just sensitive to different aspects.
But the Good Ol' Car Analogy doesn't hold water. Once tooling for a car gets set up and processes figured out, time and cost to produce go to a minimum, but still quite high, value. A car is a physical good, and just raw materials have a cost. But a video game, that's a digital good. Once built, it has a near-zero cost of reproduction. In a competitive market, the cost of a good should fall to the marginal cost of production, near zero. That's simple free market economics. The marginal cost of production of a car is still large compared to a digital good.
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Supposing some use was not deemed fair use (take it to court for a real decision) it would be "infringement" and not "theft".
For theft to happen, the artist would have to have use of something taken away involuntarily. The artist never lost use of the art. That's an important enough distinction that even the "Intellectual Property" maximalists should want to make it.
Bad shill, no payoff!
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But most of those same people stood to make some serious money if SCOG was granted the copyrights. So, maybe we have to weight that testimony, and find it wanting.
Unfortunately, all of the documents showed that the intent was to NOT transfer the copyrights.
Given what we know about eye witness testimony, especially that of people who stand to make money, it's best we assume that the intent was as documented, not as remembered.
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Second, he was a *partner* at Wilson Sonsini. I understand that law firms handle a lot of different kinds of legal work, but still, Wilson Sonsini partner pretty much qualifies as an IP specialist, don't you think? Especially in the mid 90s, before all the IP maximalism got ramped up?
Third, quit while you're ahead. Yes, a Good Lawyer just keeps going in hopes that something will stick, but it does your personal case no good in this particular venue. Refusing to give up makes you look illogical.
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http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070421204625419
In his declaration, Braham reveals that he was a specialist in "complex corporate transactions", as a partner in Wilson Sonsini.
It seems that your entire thesis is wrong: not only did Novell engage specialists for counsel, that very specialist kept elaborate records because he understood the gravity and potential historicity of the transaction.
Keep on Bustin' That FUD!
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I only engage in legal filesharing
Why do the Dutch Publishers want to make me into a criminal?
This plan is extremely silly. All it does is make "The Internet" into some kind of a unicast medium, like Tee Vee or Radio. "We publish the Content, you pay for the content". That's a load of rubbish.
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I had much the same reaction.
It even has the Techdirt Troll's Obsession with getting an experienced copyright lawyer to judge infringement or not. If they were telling the truth they wouldn't have put this weird advice in.
I'm guessing that some group at youtube tricked a really obsessive "experienced copyright lawyer" to go completely overboard, and then had an animator with a sense of humor illustrate the overboard nature of experienced copyright lawyering.
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Re: It doesn't look like the FBI is doing any programming...
The FBI has traditionally been an all-IBM shop, in particular, an all-mainframe shop. The FBI's first website, way back when, was hosted ON A NASA MACHINE. That's right, the FBI didn't have anything that could run a web server in 1995 or so.
The internal FBI culture probably prevents them from having anyone tech-savvy enough to do this kind of thing.
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So you believe that ever bad analogy in an argument belongs to a person who has been through a logic class and awarded a good grade?
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