The first comment was "so much for freedom of speech" which cause a bunch of crazies to start screaming about the 1st amendment.
I think most developed nations have some freedom of speech rights and the UK specifically subscribes to the European Convention on Human Rights article 10. Of course, most of those laws have nothing to do with this situation; the UK may have laws about when and if a hotel can refuse service, but I don't know what they are.
While I think the previous poster was a ... little excesive.
The original post said "so much for freedom of speech" not "so much for the 1st amendment." I think many people agree that "private entities" cannot do "whatever they want as you don't have to deal with them."
Imagine you were on vacation in (possibly) a foreign country and the hotel you had booked turned out to be awful. Now imagine them kicking you out and refusing to give you a refund. Where do their rights begin and yours end? What if you don't have enough money to stay somewhere else? Do you sleep in the street until your flight back? Does the hotel have a right to keep your money because you said something the hotel didn't agree with?
The best part of the tripadvisor reviews are the mangers response. 88 of the 168 reviews rate the hotel as "terrible" and on most of those reviews the manager claims that the person was "kicked out of the hotel". He even tries to insinuate in some of them that the guests were doing "inappropriate" things involving children.
The objective of jail is to reduce social interaction (some people would argue rehabilitation but ...).
The objective of cutting people off the internet is to convince them to spend all their money on over-priced DVDs and CDs. The social interaction is a side effect.
Also, I think most people would argue that copyright infringement is not typically a criminal act, but rather a form of civil rule breaking. I don't think it is fair to compare the punishments without first comparing the "crimes."
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2.Psychology . a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
...it is the height or arrogance for persons who are not the rights holder to say "My right, which is not sanctioned by law, is more important than your right, which is sanctioned by law."
One word: slavery.
You are so ignorant I'm getting an actual headache reading your crap.
Wow, I skipped past like 10 of your posts and you've gone from arguing what the word analogy means to arguing about what the word selfless means ... and you're wrong on both counts.
You are not the arbiter of words or the decider of meanings; just because you feel the word selfless should mean more than being not selfish doesn't mean that the word is semantically incorrect.
A week ago you were screaming about people comparing the current copyright situation to physical crimes and how wrong it was.
Also, you sort of proved my point that you are a legalistic dill-whole:
"My point is that the phrase means different things to different people, and no one position is "right." Except for maybe Congress, since their interpretation is controlling."
You bad mouth people for having no critical thinking skills and yet you apply none to the law. A+ in irony for being such a hypocrite in a thread related to an article about a hypocrite.
I wouldn't disagree to anything that you've listed, but most of those don't explain why the number of daily newspapers has been on the decline ... since 1950.
Also, I would argue that most of your points are side effects of globalization, which is really a side effect of more efficient communication. TV probably would have had the same long term effect on newspapers if the Internet hadn't come along and speed up the process.
Okay, here goes my best RJR impression.
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"While Open Market failed, the patents have lived on."
Even Mike admits that the real problem is big corporations stealing the ideas of the little guy and using their fat corporate bank accounts to steam roll them.
Maybe if TechDUD could understand facts they would know that Open Market only failed because big companies like Amazon stold their ideas and never paid them the money they deserved for TEACHING people how to create shopping carts.
Every new idea seems easy when you never come up with any yourself.
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Re: Again, As USUAL, learn what INNOVATION and INVENTION means. Then talk
Here is a riddle:
I hear my own ECHO and live IN A BOX.
My logic is awful BUT I THINK it rocks.
I can't speel a word and my GRAMMAR are atrocious.
With the CAPS LOCK key I am ruthless and ferocious.
All this talk about pay-walls and advertisers, micro-payments and macro-payments is rather pointless. The biggest problem facing newspapers is not the internet. Newspaper subscriptions were in a state of decline before the web was even in the picture.
The biggest challenge facing newspapers is ... other newspapers (basically through the concept of globalization). There are WAY to many news organizations, between tv, radio, and newspapers. There are approximately 1500 daily US newspapers and just like Wal-mart, Target et al. slowly destroyed mom and pop shops, so too will large news organizations (like AP and Reuters) slowly eat up smaller news agencies.
Not to mention, if he doesn't care, then why continue to post over and over again about how you're right and everyone else is wrong.
Also, high fives on understanding the slavery comparison.
And lastly, to average_joe, you admonish me for making personal attacks but here you are ranting about how "these same people just want to download stuff for free". I find that insulting and personal, you don't know me.
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I think most developed nations have some freedom of speech rights and the UK specifically subscribes to the European Convention on Human Rights article 10. Of course, most of those laws have nothing to do with this situation; the UK may have laws about when and if a hotel can refuse service, but I don't know what they are.
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The original post said "so much for freedom of speech" not "so much for the 1st amendment." I think many people agree that "private entities" cannot do "whatever they want as you don't have to deal with them."
Imagine you were on vacation in (possibly) a foreign country and the hotel you had booked turned out to be awful. Now imagine them kicking you out and refusing to give you a refund. Where do their rights begin and yours end? What if you don't have enough money to stay somewhere else? Do you sleep in the street until your flight back? Does the hotel have a right to keep your money because you said something the hotel didn't agree with?
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Does he even understand what fair market value means? Fair market values are not determined by a board of people sitting in a closet somewhere.
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Who is this place even open for business?
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The objective of cutting people off the internet is to convince them to spend all their money on over-priced DVDs and CDs. The social interaction is a side effect.
Also, I think most people would argue that copyright infringement is not typically a criminal act, but rather a form of civil rule breaking. I don't think it is fair to compare the punishments without first comparing the "crimes."
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Re: Scribd doesn't own that content.
Of course, this made room for things like stackoverflow.com which is actually a much better site.
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2.Psychology . a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
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...it is the height or arrogance for persons who are not the rights holder to say "My right, which is not sanctioned by law, is more important than your right, which is sanctioned by law."
One word: slavery.
You are so ignorant I'm getting an actual headache reading your crap.
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You are not the arbiter of words or the decider of meanings; just because you feel the word selfless should mean more than being not selfish doesn't mean that the word is semantically incorrect.
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A week ago you were screaming about people comparing the current copyright situation to physical crimes and how wrong it was.
Also, you sort of proved my point that you are a legalistic dill-whole:
"My point is that the phrase means different things to different people, and no one position is "right." Except for maybe Congress, since their interpretation is controlling."
You bad mouth people for having no critical thinking skills and yet you apply none to the law. A+ in irony for being such a hypocrite in a thread related to an article about a hypocrite.
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Also, I would argue that most of your points are side effects of globalization, which is really a side effect of more efficient communication. TV probably would have had the same long term effect on newspapers if the Internet hadn't come along and speed up the process.
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Re: This thread needs RJR!
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"While Open Market failed, the patents have lived on."
Even Mike admits that the real problem is big corporations stealing the ideas of the little guy and using their fat corporate bank accounts to steam roll them.
Maybe if TechDUD could understand facts they would know that Open Market only failed because big companies like Amazon stold their ideas and never paid them the money they deserved for TEACHING people how to create shopping carts.
Every new idea seems easy when you never come up with any yourself.
Ronaldo J. Really,
I am speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.paymenow.org
Executive Director - www.IndependantLitigants.com
Senior Fellow - www.BadPatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Ideas You Can't Use
Gatekeeper of Intellectual Property Created on behalf of someone no one knows
Washington, DC
Direct (555) 555-5555 / (555) 555-5555 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.
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Re: Again, As USUAL, learn what INNOVATION and INVENTION means. Then talk
I hear my own ECHO and live IN A BOX.
My logic is awful BUT I THINK it rocks.
I can't speel a word and my GRAMMAR are atrocious.
With the CAPS LOCK key I am ruthless and ferocious.
Answer (I'm a darryl)
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The real problem
The biggest challenge facing newspapers is ... other newspapers (basically through the concept of globalization). There are WAY to many news organizations, between tv, radio, and newspapers. There are approximately 1500 daily US newspapers and just like Wal-mart, Target et al. slowly destroyed mom and pop shops, so too will large news organizations (like AP and Reuters) slowly eat up smaller news agencies.
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Also, high fives on understanding the slavery comparison.
And lastly, to average_joe, you admonish me for making personal attacks but here you are ranting about how "these same people just want to download stuff for free". I find that insulting and personal, you don't know me.
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