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Gwiz (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 10:26am
"But that isn't fact.
If I don't happen to believe in god's law then I wouldn't believe those things are sins, therefore no one would be a sinner."
Nice try, but all people have sinned, it matters not if you think so or not. In the end you will burn in hell for even sinning once in your life. Ignorance of the law is no exception in a human court, on judgement day it will be even less of an excuse. Ahh, but there's a lot of different religions that say that if you don't believe the way we do you are going to hell. Logically that would mean everyone is going to hell, right?
No because all other religions of the world teach works righteousness. In other words you have to do a work to gain Gods favor and earn your salvation. They all do except Christianity. The works may be different but they are all earn your way to heaven plans. But you cant give something to a creator, they created everything, they need nothing from may. Therefore Christianity free gift sets it apart from other religions and proves it to be the only true one.
But this is a product of faith. Faith isnt facts and no amount of twisting and logic manipulations will convince me that God is not real or that Christianity is not the one true path. You may think your post was funny. I seriously doubt you will be thinking that when hell's flames burn you forever for the blasphemy it contains.
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@AzureSky (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 1:29pm
I am a sinful human who by Gods grace has been shown the error of my ways. God is Holy, he isnt sinful and hates sin. He therefore tells me how to live the correct life, not that I am capable of doing it perfectly. But the act of trying limits the sin I do commit.
As for knowing God, I know what he has written in His Word though my flesh doesnt always like being told what it contains.
The simple rationalizations of the video are quite funniny in the way they are wrong.
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@Dark Helmet (profile), Aug 30th, 2013 @ 10:15am
I think you are twisting what I am saying. I will attempt to make this as clear as possible.
1. The Bible clearly states that Homosexuality is wrong and a sin. This is found in both the new and old testaments Romans 1:26 and following is an example.
2. When a Christian speaks against a sin they should be relying on what God's word teaches on that sin. That people are committing the sin is wrong.
3. When you criticize the person for speaking out against sin you are criticizing not just the person but the teachings of the faith and in the end God Himself.
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I posted this above, but it fits your post as well.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is not some facts that can be proved to someone. You cant convince someone to believe in God with facts. That just plays into the hands of an atheist who thinks everything must be seen and proved or else they will not believe it. But it isnt my role to prove to you anything. I cant make you believe, I cant make you do anything.
But there are some facts. All people are sinful. We each have committed sin, if nothing else if you have either held anger against another or even thought badly of your parents you have broken God's law. Because of that you are on your way to hell when you die. We all are. Only those that believe that Christ suffered and died to pay the penalty for those sins will not go to hell.
But I cant make you believe those things. It isnt just saying "I Believe!" but actually believing its true and trusting in it. Otherwise you toss away the free gift and spit on it.
That is a rather warped view of faith and is not what the Bible teaches at all. That some have in the past said and done something like it is sad. They were not following Gods word. Christ has this to say about people like that.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Wrong,
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is not some facts that can be proved to someone. You cant convince someone to believe in God with facts. That just plays into the hands of an atheist who thinks everything must be seen and proved or else they will not believe it. But it isnt my role to prove to you anything. I cant make you believe, I cant make you do anything.
But there are some facts. All people are sinful. We each have committed sin, if nothing else if you have either held anger against another or even thought badly of your parents you have broken God's law. Because of that you are on your way to hell when you die. We all are. Only those that believe that Christ suffered and died to pay the penalty for those sins will not go to hell.
But I cant make you believe those things. It isnt just saying "I Believe!" but actually believing its true and trusting in it. Otherwise you toss away the free gift and spit on it.
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Romans 1:25-28
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
By commenting on his belief of what God teaches you are attacking him for his faith and what God has taught. The Bible, which is Gods Word teaches that homosexuality is a sin.
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Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is not provable. It isnt facts that someone can demonstrate. You cant make yourself believe. Thats why its called faith, not fact. Your free to believe in the made up theories of man all you want. Its a form of faith because half of it cant be proved. Try proving the big bang or that the universe may cycle.
By faith I also believe that if you continue to resist Gods word, you will die in your sins, and suffer eternal punishment for those sins. Just because you resist that faith teaaches us Christ paid the punishment for believers on the cross. Believe it or not, its your immortal soul that is at stake.
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I cant convince anyone to have faith, no man can. That would be against God's word. No man can say that Jesus is Lord but by the Holy Ghost, also, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Dont think I was trying to convince you that you are wrong. I was simply pointing out the fact that if I am wrong I have nothing to worry about.
No, someones faith is not "fair game" Thats the problem with people today. They think anything is fair game. Someones faith is far from it.
Condemning this man on the use of the photo is one thing. Condemning him on the basis of his faith is quite another. Sadly modern man sees nothing wrong with immoral actions and makes fun of those of faith. In the end, if they are right and there is no God we all go to nothing and thats the end. If those of faith are right the life of sin here on earth will lead to everlasting punishment.
So if the people of faith are wrong, they have nothing to worry about. On the other hand if those living in sin are wrong they have a lot to be worried about.
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"But that isn't fact.
If I don't happen to believe in god's law then I wouldn't believe those things are sins, therefore no one would be a sinner."
Nice try, but all people have sinned, it matters not if you think so or not. In the end you will burn in hell for even sinning once in your life. Ignorance of the law is no exception in a human court, on judgement day it will be even less of an excuse.
Ahh, but there's a lot of different religions that say that if you don't believe the way we do you are going to hell. Logically that would mean everyone is going to hell, right?
No because all other religions of the world teach works righteousness. In other words you have to do a work to gain Gods favor and earn your salvation. They all do except Christianity. The works may be different but they are all earn your way to heaven plans. But you cant give something to a creator, they created everything, they need nothing from may. Therefore Christianity free gift sets it apart from other religions and proves it to be the only true one.
But this is a product of faith. Faith isnt facts and no amount of twisting and logic manipulations will convince me that God is not real or that Christianity is not the one true path. You may think your post was funny. I seriously doubt you will be thinking that when hell's flames burn you forever for the blasphemy it contains.
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I am a sinful human who by Gods grace has been shown the error of my ways. God is Holy, he isnt sinful and hates sin. He therefore tells me how to live the correct life, not that I am capable of doing it perfectly. But the act of trying limits the sin I do commit.
As for knowing God, I know what he has written in His Word though my flesh doesnt always like being told what it contains.
The simple rationalizations of the video are quite funniny in the way they are wrong.
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I think you are twisting what I am saying. I will attempt to make this as clear as possible.
1. The Bible clearly states that Homosexuality is wrong and a sin. This is found in both the new and old testaments Romans 1:26 and following is an example.
2. When a Christian speaks against a sin they should be relying on what God's word teaches on that sin. That people are committing the sin is wrong.
3. When you criticize the person for speaking out against sin you are criticizing not just the person but the teachings of the faith and in the end God Himself.
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Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is not some facts that can be proved to someone. You cant convince someone to believe in God with facts. That just plays into the hands of an atheist who thinks everything must be seen and proved or else they will not believe it. But it isnt my role to prove to you anything. I cant make you believe, I cant make you do anything.
But there are some facts. All people are sinful. We each have committed sin, if nothing else if you have either held anger against another or even thought badly of your parents you have broken God's law. Because of that you are on your way to hell when you die. We all are. Only those that believe that Christ suffered and died to pay the penalty for those sins will not go to hell.
But I cant make you believe those things. It isnt just saying "I Believe!" but actually believing its true and trusting in it. Otherwise you toss away the free gift and spit on it.
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Re: and now we come to religion...
Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is not some facts that can be proved to someone. You cant convince someone to believe in God with facts. That just plays into the hands of an atheist who thinks everything must be seen and proved or else they will not believe it. But it isnt my role to prove to you anything. I cant make you believe, I cant make you do anything.
But there are some facts. All people are sinful. We each have committed sin, if nothing else if you have either held anger against another or even thought badly of your parents you have broken God's law. Because of that you are on your way to hell when you die. We all are. Only those that believe that Christ suffered and died to pay the penalty for those sins will not go to hell.
But I cant make you believe those things. It isnt just saying "I Believe!" but actually believing its true and trusting in it. Otherwise you toss away the free gift and spit on it.
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25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
By commenting on his belief of what God teaches you are attacking him for his faith and what God has taught. The Bible, which is Gods Word teaches that homosexuality is a sin.
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Faith is not provable. It isnt facts that someone can demonstrate. You cant make yourself believe. Thats why its called faith, not fact. Your free to believe in the made up theories of man all you want. Its a form of faith because half of it cant be proved. Try proving the big bang or that the universe may cycle.
By faith I also believe that if you continue to resist Gods word, you will die in your sins, and suffer eternal punishment for those sins. Just because you resist that faith teaaches us Christ paid the punishment for believers on the cross. Believe it or not, its your immortal soul that is at stake.
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Dont think I was trying to convince you that you are wrong. I was simply pointing out the fact that if I am wrong I have nothing to worry about.
No, someones faith is not "fair game" Thats the problem with people today. They think anything is fair game. Someones faith is far from it.
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So if the people of faith are wrong, they have nothing to worry about. On the other hand if those living in sin are wrong they have a lot to be worried about.
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