"I have a problem with this picture because it only HELPS the big shots make their case AGAINST piracy, by showing that those in favor have no clue how to operate a DVD player properly, or clearly don't care to know."
The picture is comedy, a bit overdrawn just to make the point. Can't you see that even though you can fast forward or skip some (or all) of the warnings/trailers, it is still more annoying than the "press play - watch movie" of an illicit copy? (which also happens to be free)
The point is that the paid version should be better, not slightly worse or even the same.
I just love how they don't even bother to change the FBI warning when they sell DVD's here in Denmark. The region code, subtitles and DVD cover is made for europe (at least, if not for Denmark itself) - but they choose to threaten us with... FBI? Their closest jurisdiction is more than a quarter around the world away. FBI? Seriously?
In Copenhagen most buses and all the Metro (S) trains have free WiFi. All paid for by the public transportation company (which in turn charges outrageous fees, but that's another story, and it was like that before the WiFi too).
So here all the suburban kids can use the internet on their way to school (along with everybody else).
@ several other comments:
Why does WiFi have to be limited to laptops? Most people use their WiFi smartphones here.
"You don't think that terms like "sharing" and "previewing" aren't distortions of what is going on as well?
Sheesh!" - Anonymous Coward
So in your opinion nobody infringes on copyright to preview something before buying?
And how do you imagine non-commercial copyright infringement without sharing? Are you saying that the people who upload don't share?
Do you even understand what it means to give something you don't like a scary name, so you don't have to come up with arguments as to why it is bad?
That is the topic of this debate.
I absolutely think that the term "Piracy" for copyright infringement was made up by the lables as a scare tactic, just like various governments like to use the word "terrorist" about people they don't like, so they don't have to come up with real arguments about why they are worse than the govenments, and their actions.
But as opposed to "terrorist", I think that "pirate" have somewhat backfired, because most of the young generation (and a good portion of the older) commits copyright infringement regulary.
It is not some dark-skinned muslim guys with strange costoms in far-away contries. It is you, me and the neighbors kid. And as hard as the labels try, it is very hard for many people to see the harm in infringement, as opposed to "terrorists".
All in all I think, as Mike suggests, that "pirate" is both a help and a curse for the people standing up to the entertainment industry. But at time goes by, many of the kids that "pirate" today will be the political leaders of tomorrow, so time is in the "pirates" favor.
If there is not enough bandwith for the data that customors consume, then the ISPs have sold them something they can't provide, and they have to upgrade their equipment.
If you buy a 10Mb/10Mb connection and use all of it, then you are suddenly a "Bandwith Hog"?
That is about as stupid as saying that you are a Bread Hog if you buy a bread and eat it all in 10 min.
I know that the only reason why ISPs can sell connections at the price they do, is that most people only use a fraction of their bandwith on average. But if they don't, then thats the ISPs problem, not the consumer, FCC or anybody else.
If I dont have that much money this month, can I pay only half of my connection fee? - No didn't think so, so go get me what I paid for.
I'm currently doing an undergraduate project in computer science. Between 10% and 100% of the functions in the product can be made in hardware (the rest in software). It's just about comparing the pros and cons, but theoretically there is no difference. There are very few things you can do in hardware that are not possible in software, and there are _nothing_ you can do in software that can not be done in hardware.
From this experience, I feel that software should just be called "Dynamic hardware" or something like that.
I agree that the overall benefit from software patents are very questionable (just like hardware patents).
But to say that there is no creative component in making software is just as wrong as saying there is no creative component in writing literature.
I think that #2 is very right in questioning the logic in
- All software is just algorithms
- All algorithms are just math
- Therefore all software is just math, and
- Math isn't patentable
You could just as easily say
- All literature is just paragraphs
- All paragraphs are just words
- Therefore all literature is just words, and
- Words isn't patentable
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That will last how long? You have dozen's of ISPs to choose from?
How about simply not stealing in the first place?
[/quote]
You are right, we should not let the gov't steal the internets!
[/parody-on-how-stupid-people-look-when-they-use-incorrect-terms]
I really don't understand how people like Mark Esper is allowed to say these kind of things in public without being ridiculed.
It must be because the wider public don't care or know that much about IP laws.
I'm going to patent the use of 42 knowledge bases.
And im also going to patent eating 42 french fries to get full. Noone have ever thought of that before me!
In the end I will have my own "42" patent collection, so anytime anyone does something that involves 42 I can sue.
Neat idea. Not a bad way to market a book. But probably not the most effective way to sell a book.
Come to think of it, it shows that a infinite good can sell tangible goods, as well as a tangible good can sell infinite goods.
When both adds value to each other, thats when you know you have a good business model.
Did the 1909 copyright act require people to register their works to be granted copyright?
I think that another, often overlooked, side of copyright is the fact that copyright is automatically granted. Putting works in the public domain automatically if not registered would serve several purposes.
1. Copyright is there as an incentive to produce. So works where copyright was not an incentive to produce can not later be registered, as there is no need for incentive after it has been produced. And public domain will be bigger (the ultimate goal).
2. If all copyrighted works was available for searching in a public database, file shareing networks and other services would actually have a fighting chance to block out copyrightet works without treating every file as "copyrighted until proven un-copyrighted".
On the post: Reminder: You Don't Compete With Piracy By Being Lame, The DVD Edition
Re: But, it's wrong.
The picture is comedy, a bit overdrawn just to make the point. Can't you see that even though you can fast forward or skip some (or all) of the warnings/trailers, it is still more annoying than the "press play - watch movie" of an illicit copy? (which also happens to be free)
The point is that the paid version should be better, not slightly worse or even the same.
On the post: Reminder: You Don't Compete With Piracy By Being Lame, The DVD Edition
FBI for the win
On the post: WiFi On The School Bus
Take a trip to Copenhagen, Denmark
So here all the suburban kids can use the internet on their way to school (along with everybody else).
@ several other comments:
Why does WiFi have to be limited to laptops? Most people use their WiFi smartphones here.
On the post: Record Labels Demanding Cash From Pirate Bay Founders
Strange logic
On the post: Musician Christopher Bryant 'Opens For Himself' To Connect With Fans... And To Find New Ones
Very nice concept
On the post: The Language Of 'Piracy' As A Spectacle
Re: Sheesh!
Sheesh!" - Anonymous Coward
So in your opinion nobody infringes on copyright to preview something before buying?
And how do you imagine non-commercial copyright infringement without sharing? Are you saying that the people who upload don't share?
Do you even understand what it means to give something you don't like a scary name, so you don't have to come up with arguments as to why it is bad?
That is the topic of this debate.
On the post: The Language Of 'Piracy' As A Spectacle
The good and the bad pirates
But as opposed to "terrorist", I think that "pirate" have somewhat backfired, because most of the young generation (and a good portion of the older) commits copyright infringement regulary.
It is not some dark-skinned muslim guys with strange costoms in far-away contries. It is you, me and the neighbors kid. And as hard as the labels try, it is very hard for many people to see the harm in infringement, as opposed to "terrorists".
All in all I think, as Mike suggests, that "pirate" is both a help and a curse for the people standing up to the entertainment industry. But at time goes by, many of the kids that "pirate" today will be the political leaders of tomorrow, so time is in the "pirates" favor.
On the post: Should We Add Bandwidth Hogs To The Myth List With That Impending Exaflood?
ISP's are to blame
If you buy a 10Mb/10Mb connection and use all of it, then you are suddenly a "Bandwith Hog"?
That is about as stupid as saying that you are a Bread Hog if you buy a bread and eat it all in 10 min.
I know that the only reason why ISPs can sell connections at the price they do, is that most people only use a fraction of their bandwith on average. But if they don't, then thats the ISPs problem, not the consumer, FCC or anybody else.
If I dont have that much money this month, can I pay only half of my connection fee? - No didn't think so, so go get me what I paid for.
On the post: Defense Of Software Patents Actually Raises Questions About All Computer Patents
Yes software is the same as hardware
From this experience, I feel that software should just be called "Dynamic hardware" or something like that.
I agree that the overall benefit from software patents are very questionable (just like hardware patents).
But to say that there is no creative component in making software is just as wrong as saying there is no creative component in writing literature.
I think that #2 is very right in questioning the logic in
- All software is just algorithms
- All algorithms are just math
- Therefore all software is just math, and
- Math isn't patentable
You could just as easily say
- All literature is just paragraphs
- All paragraphs are just words
- Therefore all literature is just words, and
- Words isn't patentable
On the post: UK Law Enforcement Tells UK Gov't: Please Don't Kick File Sharers Offline
Re: Re: Re: let's use the UK as a test...
That will last how long? You have dozen's of ISPs to choose from?
How about simply not stealing in the first place?
[/quote]
You are right, we should not let the gov't steal the internets!
[/parody-on-how-stupid-people-look-when-they-use-incorrect-terms]
On the post: Negotiating Through Lawsuit Continues: EMI Drops Lawsuit, Signs Deal With Grooveshark
....not good
On the post: US Chamber Of Commerce Makes Up Things About Intellectual Property
Total nonsence
It must be because the wider public don't care or know that much about IP laws.
On the post: Hot Coffee Finally History? Take-Two Pays $20 Million To Investors
"Sex is evil"
On the post: USPTO: Using Three Knowledge Bases To Diagnose Is Patentable
42
And im also going to patent eating 42 french fries to get full. Noone have ever thought of that before me!
In the end I will have my own "42" patent collection, so anytime anyone does something that involves 42 I can sue.
On the post: Reason To Buy? The $1 Million Wine Book
Nice
Come to think of it, it shows that a infinite good can sell tangible goods, as well as a tangible good can sell infinite goods.
When both adds value to each other, thats when you know you have a good business model.
On the post: Interview With William Patry: Understanding How The Copyright Debate Got Twisted
Nice interview
Did the 1909 copyright act require people to register their works to be granted copyright?
I think that another, often overlooked, side of copyright is the fact that copyright is automatically granted. Putting works in the public domain automatically if not registered would serve several purposes.
1. Copyright is there as an incentive to produce. So works where copyright was not an incentive to produce can not later be registered, as there is no need for incentive after it has been produced. And public domain will be bigger (the ultimate goal).
2. If all copyrighted works was available for searching in a public database, file shareing networks and other services would actually have a fighting chance to block out copyrightet works without treating every file as "copyrighted until proven un-copyrighted".
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