Problem is that it is not just BMI it is about four or five of them. I read somewhere too that as soon as you pay one, the others come knocking on your door too. They have different amounts, and you have to pay them all.
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What's wrong with these artist? Have they lost their minds? Instead of going after BMI and ASCAP maybe the public needs to put pressure on the artist to change their attitudes on how they are being treated by these companies?
I believe the courts should start going after these attorneys that file lawsuits such as this frivolous one. I also hope this woman has to pay all fees on both sides when this is over.
Clearly you can't stop their damage done to artist suing the consumers, and businesses. These companies are too big. The only way to fight them is to create a company that works with artist. That is fair, and without the restraints of companies such as like BMI. I bet artist would eat it up if they knew it meant more money for them for their hard work, and the public would eat it up because there would be less restrictions. Artist would be hesitant to sign with one of those big companies knowing someone is looking out for them, and their fan base.
When you go to court the DA has to share the case with the defendant. Vice verse too. No surprises or the case can be dropped. The same thing should happen in copyright, and patent lawsuits. But it doesn't. I for the life of me don't know how this happened. It makes no sense. "I am suing you, but you can't know the details as to why." Out of everything to deal with patents, and copyrights, this is the one thing that needs to be changed. The other is how long they have owned the patent, and if you can prove that the patent/product has been in use longer than the patent. This in itself would stop many patent trolls dead in their tracks. But it has been going on for years.
The only way I see to get out of this mess is to allow the people that use it to be able to flag the content. But even that has flaws because many wont see it as copyrighted. Others wont care they just want to download it. So it is still a fail for usenet.
And I am one of those neighbors with security cameras. Proud of it too. The camera can tell the truth better than word of mouth. It can also give information that the police would not ever have. ID the bad guy, and if I am lucky anyone else involved in the crime. These cameras are easy to install and set up if you run a business get one, if you live in a neighborhood that has had a string of thefts get one. I don't care if your just walking up the sidewalk, or double parking, I just want the added security in knowing in the end I have a good chance on catching the real bad guys doing bad things.
Unfortunately it wont happen because they are slaves to the music industry. It is great that many music artist today are seeing the importance of thinking of their fans, and giving back to them. However many are finding out too late their hands are tied to the music industry which are thinking of only lining their pockets any way they can. Including blocking freebies.
I have always said to anyone looking at BBB reports to "take them with a grain of salt because they are paid endorsements". Some of the review websites are the same also. They are laden with reports that if you visit other sites with reports they almost quote word for word. None of them unless they have over say like 30+ reviews, or reports you can't get good feedback on them.
You are promised a nice product, and when you get it the thing is junk. Too many today want you to spend a fortune for APPS, etc and it turns out it may have bugs, crashes, has crappy features, or doesn't do everything it claims it can. Sometimes you end up with a APP that has more than one problem. Then you are stuck with something that you spent fifty bucks on, and most the time you can't get your money back.
I have come across several Apps that never should of been released to the public in the first place. Chances are you also get the sham when you ask for help with the product, or they don't even reply to your request for help. I am pretty good on the computer too. I don't mind using the command line on a Windows box or a Linux box.
Now add to this crap that if you bought a CD/DVD of their product most stores don't want the CD/DVD back, and if you insist they take the CD/DVD back some even want a restocking fee. Because unfortunately you didn't know until you tried to install the APP that the APP was pure crap, and their makers wont even offer you support, or good support. I don't even like trying new software, and now tend to just stick to certain companies for what i need.
As for music I wouldn't mind so much buying music by song only, but not albums. Albums today are a rip off. You buy 8-10 songs on the album your lucky to like 3-4 songs on it. It is also I believe if you leave the place that you are buying the music from, you are expected to delete all of that music. Maybe they changed this rule, i don't know if they did, or not. I don't care either because I get open source music. I have grown tired of the RIAA BS. I own lots of CD's. All dated to the 90's then i stopped in 2000. I can't stand a company that wants to slap the hand that feeds it. I am still waiting for them to get their chit together. I have no intentions on holding my breath until that happens. I just moved on to open source music.
To me copyright is just another way for a company to hurt the consumer. They say you are purchasing the rights to use the product. But in reality it is just a way for them to stick it to you, take your rights away, deny you as a consumer to try their product, Legally can destroy your computer and they don't have to fix it, can leave your computer less secure, take your privacy away, and charge you out the butt to use their product. It is all about corporate America now. The consumer has no way to dispute a EULA because just opening the package in the corporates eyes means you agree to it. No one seems to want to fix this crap. The consumer is forced to agree with the corporations. Consumer rights are gone. Taken away... The copyright is tied to the EULA which now days reads like a book. For what it is worth it is sometimes three or four times longer than my post here. Some even longer.
That a patent meant you had a working business model in place. Apparently not. Shouldn't there be? I think so. If you own the patent, then use it, or sell it to someone that will. No I don't mean suing people is using it. Where is the software, hardware, firmware, etc? Many have the patents but they don't use them except to sue. Would this solve the problem? Not sure. Just a dream of mine I guess.
The other dream of mine is to get rid of shell owned patents. This little scheme did not take off until around the year 2000. If you get rid of the I can sue you just because "I own" the patent. You instill the model that in order to keep the patent you have to use it, you can't hide behind it either. I think it would also help if the Patent Office can drop patents they later find out to not be well laid out, or not more informative of what the patent is for. They should also be able to drop patents that are found to have multi-patents all related to the same idea.
On a personal note I believe the patent office owes the public an apology for allowing patents to get out of hand like this. This should of been fixed years ago. Now we have to deal with patent hell. In the meantime the patent office seems to be sitting on their hands saying; "Oh duh".
another personal note I have no clue the laws patent office has in place. Neither have I read any lately. If they have these type laws...then why the hell aren't they using them?
Not sure if it is the answer or not... But I came to the conclusion is that the only way to fight this crap is to have a ban of lawyers assessable to the masses that are getting sued in this fashion,... start using what works, and stay away from what doesn't work. There are many suits that were won by the little guy, and you just don't see these cases in the mainstream media. It's like the big guy managed to get these cases they lost put on a black list. Power is suppose to help in numbers. You see it all the time, even with money. The only way to stop the power is to fight them back with power.
"Some people are genuinely stupid and should not be allowed to hold back the rest. Ideally, at least twenty percent of any given class should fail that course."
So lets have a "for instance here"
Take for instance Shawn. Who was in the 9th grade and did lousy. His parents did everything to get him interested in school, but got no where. The school long gave up on him. They gave him the test, and could not understand how this boy aced the test every time. But failed in every subject during the year. So in 10th grade the boy quit school. He found a course offered at a local tech school. They said he couldn't take it, (certain courses you had to have a high school diploma) but he could still if he wanted to take the test to get in. So he took the test. He passed it - 100% nailed the test. The tech school gave him a scholarship to take anything they were offering, he did not accept it. He then left went to take the test to join the military. He aced this also. They offered him school too. He accepted. At 18 he was accepted into the military college academy and his course he was taking was nuclear science or something like that. For which he aced also.
So who failed him? What could the school of done differently? Why did they not pick up on his ability to ace those test every year? Or better yet... Why did the school fail a gifted student?
Now add to your mix places like ccmixter.org freemusicarchive.org audiofarm.org and freeplaymusic.com who offer free music to the public made by music artist under different creative commons licenses. But let’s not stop here another thing that has popped up, and is becoming even more popular, and is the "in" thing is software like audacity for Linux and Windows. WavePad for Mac. Plus the much other software that you can get free or pay for. Some you may pay dearly for, but many are free. You need worry about the RIAA. Start a trend, and make your own music. Or join one of the many websites that have popped up on the Internet. Or join a few. Then upload your new creations. Or sit back, relax, and enjoy what they have to offer the public. That's not enough for you? Well there are plenty places online for you to stream your own music like shoutcast, blogtv blogtalkradio ustream, etc. Oh and you can spend hours at these places listening too. Oh but you like the oldies? Well there is a place called musicstack.com that you can get used Vinyl Records, CDs and Music Albums. I am sure there are plenty more of them out there that do the same as them. The record companies must be really teed off at the consumers, and everyone mentioned above for thinking these alternatives up.
Places like these took a big chunk out of the record companies. I am sure a few of these were created simply because of out of frustration, and being sick of being treated worse than dirt by the record labels. As for youtube? I can pretty much see a trend come upon them too. Many new artists not wanting the record labels breathing down their necks will start to use youtube as a means to get their music out to the public. Just like the places mentioned above I bet we see many artist jump to youtube, and use a few of the other alternative resources to show off their talent. Then we really will see record company's take a plunge. I believe youtube is ready for them. So is the public. I know Google will be breathing a sigh of relief.
"outlines how Plaintiff intends to serve each defendant within 120 days of filing the amended complaint pursuant to Rule 4(m) or proposes any extensions Plaintiff may seek in order to effectuate service on all named defendants."
The courts have been abused for years by these law suit happy copy right holders. The courts are wise to this cause they know there is no way the plaintiffs can drag in all of these cases in that 120 day window. Do the math. Seeing sixteen defendants a day this is one defendant every thirty minutes will still take you over that 120 day window. Throw in trips back and forth, recesses, etc there is no way they can do this.
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Fight them back?
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usenet
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Sweet
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horse hockey!
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Ok the problem is...
I have come across several Apps that never should of been released to the public in the first place. Chances are you also get the sham when you ask for help with the product, or they don't even reply to your request for help. I am pretty good on the computer too. I don't mind using the command line on a Windows box or a Linux box.
Now add to this crap that if you bought a CD/DVD of their product most stores don't want the CD/DVD back, and if you insist they take the CD/DVD back some even want a restocking fee. Because unfortunately you didn't know until you tried to install the APP that the APP was pure crap, and their makers wont even offer you support, or good support. I don't even like trying new software, and now tend to just stick to certain companies for what i need.
As for music I wouldn't mind so much buying music by song only, but not albums. Albums today are a rip off. You buy 8-10 songs on the album your lucky to like 3-4 songs on it. It is also I believe if you leave the place that you are buying the music from, you are expected to delete all of that music. Maybe they changed this rule, i don't know if they did, or not. I don't care either because I get open source music. I have grown tired of the RIAA BS. I own lots of CD's. All dated to the 90's then i stopped in 2000. I can't stand a company that wants to slap the hand that feeds it. I am still waiting for them to get their chit together. I have no intentions on holding my breath until that happens. I just moved on to open source music.
To me copyright is just another way for a company to hurt the consumer. They say you are purchasing the rights to use the product. But in reality it is just a way for them to stick it to you, take your rights away, deny you as a consumer to try their product, Legally can destroy your computer and they don't have to fix it, can leave your computer less secure, take your privacy away, and charge you out the butt to use their product. It is all about corporate America now. The consumer has no way to dispute a EULA because just opening the package in the corporates eyes means you agree to it. No one seems to want to fix this crap. The consumer is forced to agree with the corporations. Consumer rights are gone. Taken away... The copyright is tied to the EULA which now days reads like a book. For what it is worth it is sometimes three or four times longer than my post here. Some even longer.
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I always thought...
The other dream of mine is to get rid of shell owned patents. This little scheme did not take off until around the year 2000. If you get rid of the I can sue you just because "I own" the patent. You instill the model that in order to keep the patent you have to use it, you can't hide behind it either. I think it would also help if the Patent Office can drop patents they later find out to not be well laid out, or not more informative of what the patent is for. They should also be able to drop patents that are found to have multi-patents all related to the same idea.
On a personal note I believe the patent office owes the public an apology for allowing patents to get out of hand like this. This should of been fixed years ago. Now we have to deal with patent hell. In the meantime the patent office seems to be sitting on their hands saying; "Oh duh".
another personal note I have no clue the laws patent office has in place. Neither have I read any lately. If they have these type laws...then why the hell aren't they using them?
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So lets have a "for instance here"
Take for instance Shawn. Who was in the 9th grade and did lousy. His parents did everything to get him interested in school, but got no where. The school long gave up on him. They gave him the test, and could not understand how this boy aced the test every time. But failed in every subject during the year. So in 10th grade the boy quit school. He found a course offered at a local tech school. They said he couldn't take it, (certain courses you had to have a high school diploma) but he could still if he wanted to take the test to get in. So he took the test. He passed it - 100% nailed the test. The tech school gave him a scholarship to take anything they were offering, he did not accept it. He then left went to take the test to join the military. He aced this also. They offered him school too. He accepted. At 18 he was accepted into the military college academy and his course he was taking was nuclear science or something like that. For which he aced also.
So who failed him? What could the school of done differently? Why did they not pick up on his ability to ace those test every year? Or better yet... Why did the school fail a gifted student?
It's not always the student that is the problem.
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Places like these took a big chunk out of the record companies. I am sure a few of these were created simply because of out of frustration, and being sick of being treated worse than dirt by the record labels. As for youtube? I can pretty much see a trend come upon them too. Many new artists not wanting the record labels breathing down their necks will start to use youtube as a means to get their music out to the public. Just like the places mentioned above I bet we see many artist jump to youtube, and use a few of the other alternative resources to show off their talent. Then we really will see record company's take a plunge. I believe youtube is ready for them. So is the public. I know Google will be breathing a sigh of relief.
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It's about time!
The courts have been abused for years by these law suit happy copy right holders. The courts are wise to this cause they know there is no way the plaintiffs can drag in all of these cases in that 120 day window. Do the math. Seeing sixteen defendants a day this is one defendant every thirty minutes will still take you over that 120 day window. Throw in trips back and forth, recesses, etc there is no way they can do this.
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