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I've noticed that. So basically it's not even about IPR as such, it's about cultural exceptionalism and locking that down. Wait till the backlash comes. You'll think the Yellow Jacket protests were a picnic compared to what's coming.
I've got a JVC smart TV and it's not hooked up to the internet. It's hooked up to BT Vision.
Now that thing spies on me; I'm obliged to sign in to BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 every time I want to watch something. Okay, so I only had to code in once but they know what I'm watching and when I watch it.
BBC even has the nerve to ask me to sign more people in so they can tell who is watching. I don't do that. Still, they're nosy toe-rags.
Not so. The republicans mere, most notably, quite true to the creed they currently spout in mindless defiance of reality.
Okay, but since Reagan "Big Government," i.e. more intrusion into our personal lives, and indeed more government departments, have gotten bigger. We both agree that the advent of the Neocons and the Moral Majority sent them nuts.
Given the vast diversity between the states it actually does, Paul. America doesn't have a monoculture despite what the telly tells us.
The US is so flippin' vast it's unsurprising they think it's the world. That said, it wouldn't hurt to leave their borders and discover the rest of the world.
They never have been. "Big Government" has always meant "welfare for poor people." They always clam up when it means "expansion of government intrusion into people's personal lives."
I'll name them in online reviews and they can sue me if I'm lying
Remember when a random troll did that to me? I was promoted shortly afterwards. Since no one would take a mad troll seriously AND I could prove it was trolling, there was no reason to sue.
If that's your play, Jhon, know this: it's been done before and it fell on its face. Now run along.
^This. The idea that people defame a person in order to profit from it denies the fact that once proven, the defamer is on the hook for any compensation money. It's utter nonsense.
I don't use it and I'm not a leftist, which seems to mean "Anyone who's not a right wing racist baby-caging maniac."
The grave sins are the racism and the baby-caging, etc. Leaving a kid to die alone on a concrete floor from the flu, then blaming his parents for bringing him to the US would be an example of that.
You don't have to desire to bring all industry under state control (actual leftism) to have a bit of compassion for the desperate, miserable people driven north by (checks notes) US foreign policy, i.e. backing right wing militias in their countries and pursuing the meaningless War on Drugs.
Ginsberg is dreadful on copyright, etc. I'll criticise the hell out of her for that. Remember "Spystein?" Not keen on that one either. Kamala Harris? Vapid grandstanding hack. Andrew Yang -- "Free money!!" Clueless chump. Biden -- meh! Warren -- I like her but she needs to do her research on tech as she doesn't seem to know much about it.
We've all criticised "leftists" here because they get things wrong and it annoys us. Only on the right do we see blind allegiance. If you behave badly expect to be criticised.
Publicly present proof of the lies, and their reputation will suffer.
No damage was done to my reputation since nobody could take an obvious troll seriously. When "Obvious troll is obvious," nothing worth reporting happens.
Here's the fun part; suing for butthurt to shut people up tends to backfire hard on the perpetrators. We point and laugh at them for being so thin-skinned and resorting to the bully pulpit instead of taking it on the chin like a grownup.
What's normal procedure when a company tells provable lies about you repeatedly?
First, you prove they told a lie. Given the evidence, I see no flagrant lies in what CNN reported about him — or, at the least, no lie that rises to the level of defamation.
This applies in all cases. When that troll came after me, I was able to prove the negative by pointing out the multiple posts using similar aliases and linking to that helpful post with the screenshot of the email from a .ru address. There was no need to sue, I just provided the evidence and down went the false posts -- from the reliable platforms. The unreliable one at least let me post a rebuttal. Remember, it's not defamation unless actual harm is done. Trash talk is not defamation until it has a visible effect on your life, e.g. you lose your job over it.
While the lies told about me do rise to the level of defamation per se, I'd have no standing due to the lack of actual harm done; I was promoted shortly afterwards so there's only butthurt to sue for, and that is not actionable.
How this all happened is abhorrent and Schwarz is without a doubt the victim here. Still, he does share a small part of the blame and should have been more careful about what he posted. He could have avoided this whole situation.
Agreed in full. Anyone who takes a side in politics (I'm a moderate conservative who loathes right-wingers and extremist authoritarians of every stripe, whichever side of the aisle they're on, and don't get me started on liars) is going to get hammered by the people on the other side if they challenge a particular cult figure or principle. As a moderate, I get bashed by extremists on both sides of the aisle for not blindly accepting their BS. As a Christian I get bashed by atheists. As a fairly liberal person I get bashed by authoritarians. To be fair, I rarely get bashed as a woman. The point is, you will get bashed. If you're prominent, anyone who takes a dislike to you will try to pull you down. For this reason, be careful when you post, even if you're joking. I skate pretty close to the line when I advocate hunting Tories for sport but that's as far as I'll go. I know that, if I ever crossed the line, anyone who took a dislike to me would go trawling through my tweets to find something to report and pull my account down. It's not a bad idea to bear that in mind and think before you tweet.
Whether it is reasonable or fair is not at issue. It's wise.
We sort of built this image of him as a failed rent-seeker idolizing Prenda and rightscorp, who at some point tried to peddle some get-rich-quick book on card counting using mailing lists which he's infuriated that "pirates" apparently stole from him. And who is continually infuriated that google apparently allows anyone with knowledge of his real name to find less flattering references to him - which apparently impacts his ability to pursue his profession as an IT-savvy legal eagle and successful businessman.
Eh, he did that himself with his own conduct. If that's what he wants us to believe about him he should carry on. If he wants us to believe what he believes about himself he needs to act accordingly.
How many times must I say it? Your own conduct determines what others think of you. That's ::EXACTLY:: why, when that troll came after me a few years ago, his efforts failed. Why? I don't behave that way and there's no record of me doing so -- apart from the failed attempts at smearing me. If there's unflattering stuff about him on the internet it's because his own bad behaviour was recorded and commented upon.
The only way claims made about an individual will ever stand up is if they're caught in the act on video or sound recording, there are screenshots or links to tweets or blog posts they've made, or the individuals making those claims either use their own names or go legal so their claims can be examined.
Random 4Chan types spouting off will always be ignored because they're simply not credible if there's no way to verify their claims.
He really can't let that butthurt money trolling business model idea go, can he? He'll flog this horse's carcass till it's nothing but dust before he gives up on it.
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^This. One million times this!!
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We've got that here in the UK. They're running Brexit.
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I've noticed that. So basically it's not even about IPR as such, it's about cultural exceptionalism and locking that down. Wait till the backlash comes. You'll think the Yellow Jacket protests were a picnic compared to what's coming.
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Aw, bless! Now they can form a blow-back support group.
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The thing is, if the speech of the most epic douchenozzles isn't protected, neither is ours.
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I've got a JVC smart TV and it's not hooked up to the internet. It's hooked up to BT Vision.
Now that thing spies on me; I'm obliged to sign in to BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 every time I want to watch something. Okay, so I only had to code in once but they know what I'm watching and when I watch it.
BBC even has the nerve to ask me to sign more people in so they can tell who is watching. I don't do that. Still, they're nosy toe-rags.
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Brits will tend to fly somewhere and demand that everything is the same as home except the weather
I've seen that. Colonisation by any other name is still colonisation...!
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Not so. The republicans mere, most notably, quite true to the creed they currently spout in mindless defiance of reality.
Okay, but since Reagan "Big Government," i.e. more intrusion into our personal lives, and indeed more government departments, have gotten bigger. We both agree that the advent of the Neocons and the Moral Majority sent them nuts.
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Given the vast diversity between the states it actually does, Paul. America doesn't have a monoculture despite what the telly tells us.
The US is so flippin' vast it's unsurprising they think it's the world. That said, it wouldn't hurt to leave their borders and discover the rest of the world.
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They never have been. "Big Government" has always meant "welfare for poor people." They always clam up when it means "expansion of government intrusion into people's personal lives."
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That's your planned butthurt money shakedown scam, isn't it, Jhon? "You hurt ma feelz so pay up or I'll take you to court!"
Enjoy hurt feelz. You've got nothing.
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I'll name them in online reviews and they can sue me if I'm lying
Remember when a random troll did that to me? I was promoted shortly afterwards. Since no one would take a mad troll seriously AND I could prove it was trolling, there was no reason to sue.
If that's your play, Jhon, know this: it's been done before and it fell on its face. Now run along.
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^This. The idea that people defame a person in order to profit from it denies the fact that once proven, the defamer is on the hook for any compensation money. It's utter nonsense.
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I don't use it and I'm not a leftist, which seems to mean "Anyone who's not a right wing racist baby-caging maniac."
The grave sins are the racism and the baby-caging, etc. Leaving a kid to die alone on a concrete floor from the flu, then blaming his parents for bringing him to the US would be an example of that.
You don't have to desire to bring all industry under state control (actual leftism) to have a bit of compassion for the desperate, miserable people driven north by (checks notes) US foreign policy, i.e. backing right wing militias in their countries and pursuing the meaningless War on Drugs.
Ginsberg is dreadful on copyright, etc. I'll criticise the hell out of her for that. Remember "Spystein?" Not keen on that one either. Kamala Harris? Vapid grandstanding hack. Andrew Yang -- "Free money!!" Clueless chump. Biden -- meh! Warren -- I like her but she needs to do her research on tech as she doesn't seem to know much about it.
We've all criticised "leftists" here because they get things wrong and it annoys us. Only on the right do we see blind allegiance. If you behave badly expect to be criticised.
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Good one!
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What Mike said.
Publicly present proof of the lies, and their reputation will suffer.
No damage was done to my reputation since nobody could take an obvious troll seriously. When "Obvious troll is obvious," nothing worth reporting happens.
Here's the fun part; suing for butthurt to shut people up tends to backfire hard on the perpetrators. We point and laugh at them for being so thin-skinned and resorting to the bully pulpit instead of taking it on the chin like a grownup.
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What's normal procedure when a company tells provable lies about you repeatedly?
First, you prove they told a lie. Given the evidence, I see no flagrant lies in what CNN reported about him — or, at the least, no lie that rises to the level of defamation.
This applies in all cases. When that troll came after me, I was able to prove the negative by pointing out the multiple posts using similar aliases and linking to that helpful post with the screenshot of the email from a .ru address. There was no need to sue, I just provided the evidence and down went the false posts -- from the reliable platforms. The unreliable one at least let me post a rebuttal. Remember, it's not defamation unless actual harm is done. Trash talk is not defamation until it has a visible effect on your life, e.g. you lose your job over it.
While the lies told about me do rise to the level of defamation per se, I'd have no standing due to the lack of actual harm done; I was promoted shortly afterwards so there's only butthurt to sue for, and that is not actionable.
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How this all happened is abhorrent and Schwarz is without a doubt the victim here. Still, he does share a small part of the blame and should have been more careful about what he posted. He could have avoided this whole situation.
Agreed in full. Anyone who takes a side in politics (I'm a moderate conservative who loathes right-wingers and extremist authoritarians of every stripe, whichever side of the aisle they're on, and don't get me started on liars) is going to get hammered by the people on the other side if they challenge a particular cult figure or principle. As a moderate, I get bashed by extremists on both sides of the aisle for not blindly accepting their BS. As a Christian I get bashed by atheists. As a fairly liberal person I get bashed by authoritarians. To be fair, I rarely get bashed as a woman. The point is, you will get bashed. If you're prominent, anyone who takes a dislike to you will try to pull you down. For this reason, be careful when you post, even if you're joking. I skate pretty close to the line when I advocate hunting Tories for sport but that's as far as I'll go. I know that, if I ever crossed the line, anyone who took a dislike to me would go trawling through my tweets to find something to report and pull my account down. It's not a bad idea to bear that in mind and think before you tweet.
Whether it is reasonable or fair is not at issue. It's wise.
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We sort of built this image of him as a failed rent-seeker idolizing Prenda and rightscorp, who at some point tried to peddle some get-rich-quick book on card counting using mailing lists which he's infuriated that "pirates" apparently stole from him. And who is continually infuriated that google apparently allows anyone with knowledge of his real name to find less flattering references to him - which apparently impacts his ability to pursue his profession as an IT-savvy legal eagle and successful businessman.
Eh, he did that himself with his own conduct. If that's what he wants us to believe about him he should carry on. If he wants us to believe what he believes about himself he needs to act accordingly.
How many times must I say it? Your own conduct determines what others think of you. That's ::EXACTLY:: why, when that troll came after me a few years ago, his efforts failed. Why? I don't behave that way and there's no record of me doing so -- apart from the failed attempts at smearing me. If there's unflattering stuff about him on the internet it's because his own bad behaviour was recorded and commented upon.
The only way claims made about an individual will ever stand up is if they're caught in the act on video or sound recording, there are screenshots or links to tweets or blog posts they've made, or the individuals making those claims either use their own names or go legal so their claims can be examined.
Random 4Chan types spouting off will always be ignored because they're simply not credible if there's no way to verify their claims.
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He really can't let that butthurt money trolling business model idea go, can he? He'll flog this horse's carcass till it's nothing but dust before he gives up on it.
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