Not quite, there are thousands of works that are protected under copyright that are not released and no profits are made, for every work that is released and profits made.
That was my point. You're only considering the works that are old and make money, what about the many, many more that do not make money but are not released into the public domain?
You attempt to argue by starting out with a straw-man fallacy and expect people to listen or even consider your points?
Then you throw in personal attacks "You're not a real journalist. But still..."
Wow, and you wonder why everyone here gangs up on you!
Mike HAS addressed the actual reasons for the extension, control, but he wonders why. It sure as hell ain't for profit because the public, at large, has the attention span of a gnat. So extending copyrights only ensures that those who CAN create USING older works, or derivatives there-of, are limited to those who can license with the copyrights owner. These license fees are cost prohibitive for a reason, but in actual fact, you'll find the re-users of said work are actually giving their recycled creation rights to the owner of the rights of the original work.
So it costs them nothing, they are just trying to control content creation.
That means they will say anything to garner votes. "He-said she-said" is all they know and it is only to garner votes. Once elected, it won't matter who's in office, they'll take their bribes (aka lobby money) and do what they are told.
Yes but where is the exposure of fraudulent activity? That's the whole point of this suggestion, to acquire the information and expose them for the abusers/liars that they are. If China did hack, they should be pumping the information everywhere (which was what I suggested when the 'Net is turned back on).
This isn't the same as simply firing a machine gun randomly. It's gather all information, from any defense/entertainment/legal/economic entity we know or suspect to be fraudulent or abusing the system.
I don't care to know Coke's secret recipe, I care to know why Paulson was not arrested for his contribution to the economic mess (or Bernanke or Greenspan). I care to know the real accounting of the MPAA members and RIAA members and have EVERYONE know it, all at once.
Little sites here and there are easy targets, but a sea of information, all repeating the same phrases, cannot be shut down. You can't stop a title-wave, but you can damn any little stream.
Correct, it would have to be an internal hack. Sorry, I watched fight-club recently so the concept of people stepping up and taking the power back kinda clouded my brain.
With routers down, there would be no external hacking, and that's my intent, to get people involved in exposing their superiors for the frauds they are.
But with the net being down, you'd have more people willing to do the job, as there were be so many talented developers out there willing to contribute their skills to assist those on the inside with their tasks.
If the government, at the behest of entertainment industries, defense-related industries, oil-related industries, and all their lobbiests, want to control the Internet, then shut it down.
I'm serious, shut the damn thing down. Turn it off. NO ONE gets to use it. Amazon, Google, Yahoo, NetFlix... and just about every news (or "news" when referring to Fox) network et. all will suffer. Billions of dollars will be lost. The entertainment industry won't have "piracy" to blame anymore.
While the 'Net is down, hack and I mean really hack, get all the dirt you can on lobbying, paid-off judges, illegal actions of governments, accounting information (all of it) from every corporation (including their offshore tax havens), emails, etc... you name it. The "authorities" will be so busy trying to find out why not a single DNS will work, why not a single router will work, they won't have time to figure out what's really happening.
Then, turn the 'Net back on, all at once. All the information gathered is all people will find, nothing else. One month of nothing but the information gathered. Hack the media so they only broadcast this information.
Only then, when everyone is involved in spreading this information, only then when everyone knows about the bribes and abuses and factless claims, only then will people stand up (maybe). No distractions permitted, not a single one! We all know how easily the sheep are distracted, so you MUST hack every media outlet and lock the web to only display the information gathered. Pages upon pages of corruption exposed at once.
And if after all of that nothing results? No uprisings where people walk into congress with police and arrest them, walk into corporations, government offices and arrest them, then we know we're done for. And all those who helped expose the truth will likely be happy to be put to death. Seriously, would you want to live in a world where the masses are so hopelessly stupid that even with all the real evidence (not some biased blog full of fluff and conspiracy theories) right in their face and they still side with the Gov?
I'm betting if this were to actually happen, the shutdown and hack and exposure, you'd see nothing but mass executions and the look of disgust from sheeple.
But seriously, you want to stop warrant-less tapping, abuses of the Constitution (or equivalent to your own country), you need to expose it all, all at once, everything. The only way to do that is to shut down the Internet, hack and steal, then combine it all into simple fact (with references) sheets that clearly show what's going on.
Because clearly the judicial system is so far gone that "National Security" is being allowed to block anything and everything from fairness. The reason is obvious, when you're using "National Security" as a defense of your actions, you broke the law and are trying to hide. If the judicial system had any backbone and supported the People, not the $$ or government, it would have told the Gov to stuff their National Security where the sun doesn't shine!
NOTE: To all "law enforcement" (aka: law abusers) reading this, I don't know how to actually do any of it, so don't harass me! Instead find some integrity, if you have any left, and go after your bosses and colleagues that are responsible for the mess we're in! Stop taking bribes, stop bribing others, and show some respect for yourselves and those around you. If you can't, then go find a quite place, live alone, and keep your sickness with you, and avoid infecting others! Thanks!
"This dossier aims at providing an overview of the presently escalating discussion taking place in Europe since 2005, about a term extension for related rights in sound recordings. Start- ing in the UK, music industry lobbyists have been pushing for years to have the term for all existing and future recordings extended by at least 20, better even by 45 years. Below fol- lows a short description of the rights in question, of the points made for and against a term extension and of the chain of events that lead to the situation where this extension might, notwithstanding a strong opposition, be actually made into EU law in September 2011."
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Re: Re: Re: Average_Joe Jan 3rd 2012 2:50pm
That was my point. You're only considering the works that are old and make money, what about the many, many more that do not make money but are not released into the public domain?
On the post: Why Johnny Can't Read Any New Public Domain Books In The US: Because Nothing New Entered The Public Domain
Re: Average_Joe Jan 3rd 2012 2:50pm
You attempt to argue by starting out with a straw-man fallacy and expect people to listen or even consider your points?
Then you throw in personal attacks "You're not a real journalist. But still..."
Wow, and you wonder why everyone here gangs up on you!
Mike HAS addressed the actual reasons for the extension, control, but he wonders why. It sure as hell ain't for profit because the public, at large, has the attention span of a gnat. So extending copyrights only ensures that those who CAN create USING older works, or derivatives there-of, are limited to those who can license with the copyrights owner. These license fees are cost prohibitive for a reason, but in actual fact, you'll find the re-users of said work are actually giving their recycled creation rights to the owner of the rights of the original work.
So it costs them nothing, they are just trying to control content creation.
Go take your equilibrium and go back to sleep.
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Remember: They are politicians!!!
On the post: Retroactive Immunity From The Gov't For Warrantless Wiretapping Deemed Constitutional
Re: Re: Solution: nip it in the bud!
This isn't the same as simply firing a machine gun randomly. It's gather all information, from any defense/entertainment/legal/economic entity we know or suspect to be fraudulent or abusing the system.
I don't care to know Coke's secret recipe, I care to know why Paulson was not arrested for his contribution to the economic mess (or Bernanke or Greenspan). I care to know the real accounting of the MPAA members and RIAA members and have EVERYONE know it, all at once.
Little sites here and there are easy targets, but a sea of information, all repeating the same phrases, cannot be shut down. You can't stop a title-wave, but you can damn any little stream.
On the post: Retroactive Immunity From The Gov't For Warrantless Wiretapping Deemed Constitutional
Re: Re: Solution: nip it in the bud!
With routers down, there would be no external hacking, and that's my intent, to get people involved in exposing their superiors for the frauds they are.
But with the net being down, you'd have more people willing to do the job, as there were be so many talented developers out there willing to contribute their skills to assist those on the inside with their tasks.
On the post: Retroactive Immunity From The Gov't For Warrantless Wiretapping Deemed Constitutional
Solution: nip it in the bud!
I'm serious, shut the damn thing down. Turn it off. NO ONE gets to use it. Amazon, Google, Yahoo, NetFlix... and just about every news (or "news" when referring to Fox) network et. all will suffer. Billions of dollars will be lost. The entertainment industry won't have "piracy" to blame anymore.
While the 'Net is down, hack and I mean really hack, get all the dirt you can on lobbying, paid-off judges, illegal actions of governments, accounting information (all of it) from every corporation (including their offshore tax havens), emails, etc... you name it. The "authorities" will be so busy trying to find out why not a single DNS will work, why not a single router will work, they won't have time to figure out what's really happening.
Then, turn the 'Net back on, all at once. All the information gathered is all people will find, nothing else. One month of nothing but the information gathered. Hack the media so they only broadcast this information.
Only then, when everyone is involved in spreading this information, only then when everyone knows about the bribes and abuses and factless claims, only then will people stand up (maybe). No distractions permitted, not a single one! We all know how easily the sheep are distracted, so you MUST hack every media outlet and lock the web to only display the information gathered. Pages upon pages of corruption exposed at once.
And if after all of that nothing results? No uprisings where people walk into congress with police and arrest them, walk into corporations, government offices and arrest them, then we know we're done for. And all those who helped expose the truth will likely be happy to be put to death. Seriously, would you want to live in a world where the masses are so hopelessly stupid that even with all the real evidence (not some biased blog full of fluff and conspiracy theories) right in their face and they still side with the Gov?
I'm betting if this were to actually happen, the shutdown and hack and exposure, you'd see nothing but mass executions and the look of disgust from sheeple.
But seriously, you want to stop warrant-less tapping, abuses of the Constitution (or equivalent to your own country), you need to expose it all, all at once, everything. The only way to do that is to shut down the Internet, hack and steal, then combine it all into simple fact (with references) sheets that clearly show what's going on.
Because clearly the judicial system is so far gone that "National Security" is being allowed to block anything and everything from fairness. The reason is obvious, when you're using "National Security" as a defense of your actions, you broke the law and are trying to hide. If the judicial system had any backbone and supported the People, not the $$ or government, it would have told the Gov to stuff their National Security where the sun doesn't shine!
NOTE: To all "law enforcement" (aka: law abusers) reading this, I don't know how to actually do any of it, so don't harass me! Instead find some integrity, if you have any left, and go after your bosses and colleagues that are responsible for the mess we're in! Stop taking bribes, stop bribing others, and show some respect for yourselves and those around you. If you can't, then go find a quite place, live alone, and keep your sickness with you, and avoid infecting others! Thanks!
On the post: EU Officially Seizes The Public Domain, Retroactively Extends Copyright
@66 AC retroactive question?
"This dossier aims at providing an overview of the presently escalating discussion taking place in Europe since 2005, about a term extension for related rights in sound recordings. Start- ing in the UK, music industry lobbyists have been pushing for years to have the term for all existing and future recordings extended by at least 20, better even by 45 years. Below fol- lows a short description of the rights in question, of the points made for and against a term extension and of the chain of events that lead to the situation where this extension might, notwithstanding a strong opposition, be actually made into EU law in September 2011."
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