"There are many shades of grey... but they're all grey. There are many different kinds of stealing and words to describe them... but it's still simply taking something that you have no right to. But enough of that... you are blind to that simple basic tenet of right and wrong."
actually no, the definition of stealing is:
the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent.
But answer me this, what am i "taking"? the music owner still has his music and can still sell it. at what point did i take anything from him? if you come out with the same number of items as you did going in, what have you lost?
There is no gray area for stealing. This is also not stealing.
Funny(sad) fact: the penalties for file sharing are much steeper than going into a store and depriving them of a physical product. up to $X dollars it is just a misdemeanor. with 24 songs shared you can have a penalty of ~$2 million and bankruptcy.
tell me that the world hasn't gone stupid.
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while most of that was a tad over the top, seeing as i am only barely removed the other end of that spectrum, i have to agree with the basics of your post.
who said anything about the families? I meant the children. Besides, throwing money at it wasn't the solution either. Taking time out to teach people better money management than to just throw them a bone is much more useful and might actually make them more productive.
What is sad is that there are a bunch of black role models.
Of course Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. being a predominant example, but there are many more.
Hell, regardless of how you feel about his politics, President Obama would be a good role model.
There are plenty of options, the only problem is that kids, not parents, decide their own role models, and Snoop Dogg, Kid Rock, et al are much more pervasive and easier to idolize. More rappers need to learn that they have a responsibility to the kids (black, white, etc) in the projects and inner city slums that idolize them and start making music that isn't about drugs, violence, and sex. As well as more overt moves to help these kids. The rich should be first to open their checkbooks to help the situation poor children of this nation are in. (this also goes for all kinds of rich, regardless of sex or race or whatever)
But no. there is too much money in the current system.
im not entirely sure an all private school system would be ideal either. The problem with that is you do have problems with schools being too expensive. even kids who want to go and parents who want to send their child one couldn't because of poverty. It would continue that trend onward and end up with an upper and lower class, and we would have lost sight of the initial goal. the advantage that America has always had over other countries has been our public school system. Instead of getting rid of it, let us fix it and make it better. I am sure a nation that can created something like the Internet could muster up enough thought to fix our dismal pre-secondary school system. (case in point, our secondary and post-secondary schools are the best in the world, but we have the worst grade schools in the world. maybe making the public school system match the university school system might not be a bad idea. It isn't as inclusive as public schools, but it isn't as exclusive as an all private school system. food for thought.)
Lets make our children's future brighter than it is now.
I have had this argument in general many times.
Like I stated in response to Marcus, I am from Mississippi, so I can see the worse of the what the current system is doing to not only our children (of all races), but our future. The system is built to move everyone to the lowest common denominator. The lowest common denominator happens to (usually) be poor black children from the projects. It is not their fault most of the time, and many do make it out on top, but the fact that alot do not means that the entire system is "dumbed" down to match this. Kids who will excel will be lost in the general noise and the kids who need the most help won't receive it.
Really and truthfully, I think a system like the charter schools system needs to be implemented. Have a few schools all over the state that are for the over achievers and the truly smart children. Stop pulling down the bright kids and the kids who want to achieve more than their parents down with "political correctness" that is sending us ever closer to the Dole. Stop striving for low, but equal, and force all kids to try to keep up. It may not seem fair to some, but it is way past time for us to stop caring about stupid little trite things like political correctness. Our kids are our only hope and need to be taught to excel, not to become another lowest common denominator. anytime you can do to have kids be forced to make more out of their life, the better.
im from mississippi, and that story was bad. it had something to do with the way the district was setup or something strange like that. we do have private schools, especially in the delta, where there are no black children attending at all. It is seriously a sad state of affairs here.
well, considering divorce rates (in america) are around 50%, it isn't all that amazing. We divorce way to easily now.
and divorcing because your wife/husband talks to their ex is retarded. I know many people who are even friends with their spouse's ex. It isn't that amazing. People need to chill out sometimes.
i find that highly ironic.
using an OS where criticism and freedom are key elements in a Communist state.
Pure. simple. brilliance.
Linux will do what the fascist capitalistic monopoly, er Microsoft, can't.
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actually no, the definition of stealing is:
the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent.
But answer me this, what am i "taking"? the music owner still has his music and can still sell it. at what point did i take anything from him? if you come out with the same number of items as you did going in, what have you lost?
There is no gray area for stealing. This is also not stealing.
Funny(sad) fact: the penalties for file sharing are much steeper than going into a store and depriving them of a physical product. up to $X dollars it is just a misdemeanor. with 24 songs shared you can have a penalty of ~$2 million and bankruptcy.
tell me that the world hasn't gone stupid.
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http://techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20091228/0022137506#c661
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David posted it here:
http://techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20091228/0022137506&threaded=true#c305
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Thanks for being a jackass.
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Of course Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. being a predominant example, but there are many more.
Hell, regardless of how you feel about his politics, President Obama would be a good role model.
There are plenty of options, the only problem is that kids, not parents, decide their own role models, and Snoop Dogg, Kid Rock, et al are much more pervasive and easier to idolize. More rappers need to learn that they have a responsibility to the kids (black, white, etc) in the projects and inner city slums that idolize them and start making music that isn't about drugs, violence, and sex. As well as more overt moves to help these kids. The rich should be first to open their checkbooks to help the situation poor children of this nation are in. (this also goes for all kinds of rich, regardless of sex or race or whatever)
But no. there is too much money in the current system.
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Lets make our children's future brighter than it is now.
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I think everyone needs to read MLK's "I have a dream" speech at least once.
here is a link:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm
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Like I stated in response to Marcus, I am from Mississippi, so I can see the worse of the what the current system is doing to not only our children (of all races), but our future. The system is built to move everyone to the lowest common denominator. The lowest common denominator happens to (usually) be poor black children from the projects. It is not their fault most of the time, and many do make it out on top, but the fact that alot do not means that the entire system is "dumbed" down to match this. Kids who will excel will be lost in the general noise and the kids who need the most help won't receive it.
Really and truthfully, I think a system like the charter schools system needs to be implemented. Have a few schools all over the state that are for the over achievers and the truly smart children. Stop pulling down the bright kids and the kids who want to achieve more than their parents down with "political correctness" that is sending us ever closer to the Dole. Stop striving for low, but equal, and force all kids to try to keep up. It may not seem fair to some, but it is way past time for us to stop caring about stupid little trite things like political correctness. Our kids are our only hope and need to be taught to excel, not to become another lowest common denominator. anytime you can do to have kids be forced to make more out of their life, the better.
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and divorcing because your wife/husband talks to their ex is retarded. I know many people who are even friends with their spouse's ex. It isn't that amazing. People need to chill out sometimes.
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do robots dream of electric sheep?
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a robot is so much more.
And it wouldn't be that hard to program in a "do not hurt humans" function in c++. it is just another class.
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I like me them ideas.
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using an OS where criticism and freedom are key elements in a Communist state.
Pure. simple. brilliance.
Linux will do what the fascist capitalistic monopoly, er Microsoft, can't.
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