And if you want to know how it could be enforced: it could be enforced by immigration enforcement (Australia's an island after all), or inspectors inspecting private property. I wouldn't mind cops and military if they had a check on them. But there isn't. That's what I'm worried about.
But like I said, as with ICE in the US, there's the whole
But how do the Police and Military enforce the COVID restrictions without abusing their power? That's also something worth exploring, and that's also why I brought up the angle of Aborigines being marginalized in Australia.
I'm not saying there's a simple solution or that COVID restrictions are oppressive or even unnecessary. It's just that Tim has a point about the Australian authorities being, um, well, authoritarian.
So how does a country enforce its rules on masks, vaccines, and lockdowns without some way to back those rules up and ensure that people face some measure of consequences when they spread a deadly disease without regard to their fellow countrymen?
You should know by now that Law Enforcement doesn't actually enforce the law but discriminates. This is especially true in Australia, who discriminate horribly against Aborigines who they once held in chains like animals.
The US is not a monolith. Some states are pure shitshows (like Texas, Georgia, and Florida). Some states have their act together for the most part (like California, New York, and Massachusetts). It's possible those other countries are trying not to be like Texas, Georgia, and Florida, but could bear being California, New York, and Massachusetts.
It's been a year and a half of this virus, we've had vaccines that anyone over 12 can get for at 5-6 months now, and there's still no end in site.
I can't speak for all of the US, but at least in NYC, the third wave is (much smaller than the previous two](https://gothamist.com/news/coronavirus-statistics-tracking-epidemic-new-york). The vaccines and masks are working to contain the virus, even the delta variant. You have to look at this from a holistic perspective (and I don't mean the quackpot holistic medicine).
This article is veering pretty damned close to the shit I see on sites like Reason where they equate masks, vaccine mandates, and lockdowns to fascism.
Except Tim isn't doing any of that. He's not against any of those. He's asking the question as to whether it's prudent for law enforcement and the military to be taking those steps.
Don't give me that bullshit about how it's an "imagined" threat.
Unless you're talking about Terrorism, which isn't an imagined threat either, but the response that the US and other western countries have made thereto has made the problem worse.
It seems the problem with the US and the problem with Australia are opposite:
In the US, there are far too many anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers who violently attempt coup d'états whereas in Australia, there are far too many people who trust the government such that it leads to totalitarianism.
In addition to what Stephen T. Stone said, you're forgetting how far Texas has taken gerrymandering and voter suppression to put a new twist on the US Constitution's guarantee that states "must have a Republican form of government".
Of course, there's also the takeaway that the more advertisers/big data think they know you, the more they don't. Take the example of someone buying toilet paper on Amazon, and then they flood that person with ads of toilet paper not taking one-time purchasers into account. The advertisers think that they know people's behavior that way, but actually don't.
This is sometimes called The Haystack Principle: The larger the haystack, the harder it is to find a needle.
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So you'd rather live in China, Russia, or Turkey. Got it.
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[citation needed]
I provided my sources. Provide yours.
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And if you want to know how it could be enforced: it could be enforced by immigration enforcement (Australia's an island after all), or inspectors inspecting private property. I wouldn't mind cops and military if they had a check on them. But there isn't. That's what I'm worried about.
But like I said, as with ICE in the US, there's the whole
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Answer my question:
How do you make sure that the police and military don't abuse their power, especially in a country without a constitution like Australia?
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At least in NYC, all of the other variants have died out and made way for the delta variant, which is 99% of all cases. https://gothamist.com/news/coronavirus-statistics-tracking-epidemic-new-york
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But how do the Police and Military enforce the COVID restrictions without abusing their power? That's also something worth exploring, and that's also why I brought up the angle of Aborigines being marginalized in Australia.
I'm not saying there's a simple solution or that COVID restrictions are oppressive or even unnecessary. It's just that Tim has a point about the Australian authorities being, um, well, authoritarian.
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Murdoch fucked around…
…and he found out. No sympathy from me for the old fucking bastard.
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You should know by now that Law Enforcement doesn't actually enforce the law but discriminates. This is especially true in Australia, who discriminate horribly against Aborigines who they once held in chains like animals.
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The US is not a monolith. Some states are pure shitshows (like Texas, Georgia, and Florida). Some states have their act together for the most part (like California, New York, and Massachusetts). It's possible those other countries are trying not to be like Texas, Georgia, and Florida, but could bear being California, New York, and Massachusetts.
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Then again, Florida has 21.48 million people and England has 55.48 million people so the comparison is a bit off…
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Florida's not #1, though.
According to John Hopkins. It's #3. #1 is the entire country of England, and #2 is Kerala in India.
You might want to ask Bloof and PaulT what England is doing wrong…
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I can't speak for all of the US, but at least in NYC, the third wave is (much smaller than the previous two](https://gothamist.com/news/coronavirus-statistics-tracking-epidemic-new-york). The vaccines and masks are working to contain the virus, even the delta variant. You have to look at this from a holistic perspective (and I don't mean the quackpot holistic medicine).
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Except Tim isn't doing any of that. He's not against any of those. He's asking the question as to whether it's prudent for law enforcement and the military to be taking those steps.
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Those with power don't give up without a demand. Never have, and never will. Frederick Douglass was right, and his words proved prophetic.
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COVID-19 has killed over four and a half million people worldwide.
Don't give me that bullshit about how it's an "imagined" threat.
Unless you're talking about Terrorism, which isn't an imagined threat either, but the response that the US and other western countries have made thereto has made the problem worse.
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Opposite ends of the spectrum
It seems the problem with the US and the problem with Australia are opposite:
In the US, there are far too many anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers who violently attempt coup d'états whereas in Australia, there are far too many people who trust the government such that it leads to totalitarianism.
But here I am, stuck in the middle with you…
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In addition to what Stephen T. Stone said, you're forgetting how far Texas has taken gerrymandering and voter suppression to put a new twist on the US Constitution's guarantee that states "must have a Republican form of government".
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Considering that the Library of Alexandria predated the Statute of Anne, that is over 9000% correct.
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The Haystack Principle
Of course, there's also the takeaway that the more advertisers/big data think they know you, the more they don't. Take the example of someone buying toilet paper on Amazon, and then they flood that person with ads of toilet paper not taking one-time purchasers into account. The advertisers think that they know people's behavior that way, but actually don't.
This is sometimes called The Haystack Principle: The larger the haystack, the harder it is to find a needle.
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That being said, in general, blind people aren't stupid. Otherwise, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles wouldn't be so brilliant.
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