Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 9 Sep 2013 @ 11:58am
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So elect a president whose DOJ will actually put these guys in prison.
Excellent idea... but do you have any suggestions as to who or how? Considering that;
a/ As I understand it Obama promised at least steps in this direction and lied through his teeth even more than the average politician
and
b/ Any politician actually serious about such reform has about as much chance to getting as far as having people vote for him as I am of being in the running for Pope.
... it seems a rather forlorn hope.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 9 Sep 2013 @ 2:16am
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If it's for personal use, it's legal. Once you you [sic] start rebroadcasting to multiple people it becomes a commercial venture.
OK, so to carry on my example above...
Let's say I get a guy to install kit to do this in a rented location and maintain it for me as described above. I'm the only one getting the output from this piece of kit, so according to your answer above, you think this is fine.
Now the guy (who I'm paying to maintain this kit for me) thinks "Hey maybe other people might want the same deal" and starts advertising his services as a "Remote TV custodian", pretty soon he's got a bunch of people doing the same thing. Still OK? If not, why?
After a while he thinks "this is silly... I'm running all over town after this stuff". He rents an office of his own and offers to move people's kit into it. It cuts everyone's costs so great, they love it. Still OK? If not, what's wrong?
Then he thinks "Hang on a minute, I'm installing this stuff, but the customers are buying it and shipping it to me. Since I'm the one who knows what they need, why don't I just buy it for them too and stick it on the first maintenance bill"? Anything wrong yet? What?
Next comes "Well why don't I just buy it myself and rent it to them? Then if they don't want it anymore I can use it for someone else and it's more environmentally friendly". I assume you must have a problem by now since this is pretty much what Aereo are doing. So what it is? It can't be "it's a commercial venture" - it has been commercial from the start since I was paying the guy to maintain the service so it must be something else.
Finally (and this as far as I can see is the only step that goes beyond what Aereo have done), he decides that a setup per person is insane since loads of customers can share 1 setup and consolidates it down. Describe what the problem is please?
Now let's look at it from the TV company's point of view. This is an unencrypted broadcast signal, so there's no real way for them to know ever who's looking at it or where from. As far as I know the US has no TV licensing, so the potential lack of a TV at the end isn't a problem. The broadcasting TV company's revenue relies on advertising and therefore eyeballs watching, which if anything is going to go up.
If the broadcasting service really has a problem, it seems to me the best way to handle it would be to go to the guy running the service and say "Hey if you're going to do this, can we have the stats of how many people are pulling each channel and when - we can beef up our own advertising numbers with that", then everybody wins, do they not?
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 7 Sep 2013 @ 4:59am
Re: Re: Question
So... it turns out works for hire;
1/ Give absolutely no rights to the people that actually create the work in question
2/ Last pretty much as long as individual copyrights
3/ Still last longer than anyone who cared about the work in the first place is likely to be alive.
Yeah, my "faith" in copyright law has been restored. Thanks for the (depressing) info..
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 7 Sep 2013 @ 4:53am
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Which raises a good point. It will be interesting to see the (probable lack of) countries around the world freaking out about these revelations.
A lack of complaint from a government to me will likely mean one of 3 things:
1/ They are sharing some or all of the "take"
2/ The US has bullied them into submission
3/ The members of the government in question have no idea just what this means for their own country.
Any of those is rather scary...
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 7 Sep 2013 @ 3:27am
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What Aero is doing is transmitting to a different person. Mike compares Aero to Slingbox. Same thing. Slingbox transmits to yourself, and Aero transmits to someone else.
So, are you suggesting that it would be different if one bought the antenna and DVR personally and put it in a hosting service that it would be different? What exactly is it that you think is the "illegal" bit?
How about if I built this myself and put it in a rented office somewhere?
How about if I buy all the kit and rent the office but pay someone else to install it then operate it myself?
Does it make a difference if I also pay the guy to maintain it for me?
What if I invite him round to watch TV?
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 7 Sep 2013 @ 2:50am
Later date? Not even that!
A fingerprint and $85 doesn't keep someone from being radicalized at a later date. It doesn't mean all the scary terrorist groups out there can't plant someone on a long-term mission specifically to get approved for this list
Having worked at an international event that did extensive background checks on all staff involved in the event, I know exactly how effective this is and I know there's a very high likelihood it will not detect someone prepared enough and trying to hide.
The event in question works closely with the UK police and security services and checks out all of the 5,000+ staff that work the event. I will wager that these checks are at least as extensive as those given "pre-cleared" passengers and I know of several incidents where things have slipped through - e.g. a reporter managing to work at the event "undercover" by falsifying their background.
The point is, even for only a few thousand people, it's simply impossible to do a thorough-enough background check to be sure someone is who they claim to be - one replies on spotting "something not right" in a cursory check to dig deeper. Multiply that by the number of people that travel and it is impossible that pre-clearing can be much more than another piece of money-making security theatre.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 6 Sep 2013 @ 4:28pm
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Logic and fairness would suggest 14 years... But anyway...
Yeah I meant under the current law. I know that applying the phrase "logical and fair" anywhere near that is stretching the definition to breaking point but still...
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 6 Sep 2013 @ 2:15am
Who's the enemy again?
It's official, The People are the enemy according to the NSA. This from the guardian article quoting the NSA programme documents:
"These design changes make the systems in question exploitable through Sigint collection … with foreknowledge of the modification. To the consumer and other adversaries, however, the systems' security remains intact." (Emphasis added)
So there you have it - if you are a consumer you are officially an NSA adversary.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 6 Sep 2013 @ 1:57am
Question
So, can someone enlighten me? What is the copyright term of a "work for hire" like a dev team? Is it "life of last surviving member of the team + 70" or "Life of the owning company + 70" or something else?
Logic and fairness would suggest that since the specific dev team is usually disbanded on completion, it would be "release date +70". However, that would limit the copyright term to something within a human-spaceflight-distance-worth of sensible, not to mention it being shorter than a copyright held by an actual creator, so I know it's not that...
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 4 Sep 2013 @ 4:17am
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I don't know which country is more fascist. USA or UK?
In actual law, probably the UK (for example no right to silence when arrested). In how it acts.... a close run thing.
I would say that currently The US is more going for the CSA (Corporate States of America) and much of the massive rights-trampling is a by-product and UKCorp seems to be trying for full-on police state.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 4 Sep 2013 @ 1:49am
Well there you have it
But, as we see time and time again, it often seems that "something" is done in the form of regular competition and innovation from others, who can come out of nowhere and completely take down a giant in a very, very short period of time.
Which I suppose explains why those companies spend so much money buying laws that prevent competition. Those laws seem to be easier and easier for corporations to buy so I have to doubt how much longer that statement will be true for.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 3 Sep 2013 @ 11:45am
Re: Re: What. The. Fuck...
In a democracy you get who the most people vote for
In a democracy, possibly yes (it hasn't happened yet so I can't say for sure).
In America and the UK (and other "democracies") on the other hand people get the "choice" of a limited number of largely identical people who have already sold out to several major corporate in order to raise the ludicrously large amount of money and necessary corporate backing to get anywhere near a seat of power.
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 1 Sep 2013 @ 2:57am
Re: The witness statements
Goode said the process to decode the material was complex and that "so far only 75 documents have been reconstructed since the property was initially received."
Is it me or does that sound like one of 2 things:
1/ "We're bullshitting"
or
2/ "In the time we've had this harddrive, we've managed to brute-force decrypt 0.1% of the data by throwing absolutely everything we've got at it so obviously it's insecure... right?"
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 24 Aug 2013 @ 3:12am
Re: Re: One abuse a year...
Or that they know about....
Or that they pulled out of their ass as a non-scary number they hope might be believable because in reality they don't care and don't count how much goes on...
Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 22 Aug 2013 @ 1:27am
Re: Re: Re: 25 year old tech
Seriously, there are so many differences between email and snailmail [snip]
Indeed there are, but I think he was trying to point out the glaring similarity that's right there in the name - MAIL.
I.e. with snailmail you have an expectation of privacy of the contents despite the many people that handle it between sender and recipient. E-mail has (or should have) the same expectation. Hardly rocket science even for the tech-illiterate...
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a/ As I understand it Obama promised at least steps in this direction and lied through his teeth even more than the average politician
and
b/ Any politician actually serious about such reform has about as much chance to getting as far as having people vote for him as I am of being in the running for Pope.
... it seems a rather forlorn hope.
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OK, so to carry on my example above...
Let's say I get a guy to install kit to do this in a rented location and maintain it for me as described above. I'm the only one getting the output from this piece of kit, so according to your answer above, you think this is fine.
Now the guy (who I'm paying to maintain this kit for me) thinks "Hey maybe other people might want the same deal" and starts advertising his services as a "Remote TV custodian", pretty soon he's got a bunch of people doing the same thing. Still OK? If not, why?
After a while he thinks "this is silly... I'm running all over town after this stuff". He rents an office of his own and offers to move people's kit into it. It cuts everyone's costs so great, they love it. Still OK? If not, what's wrong?
Then he thinks "Hang on a minute, I'm installing this stuff, but the customers are buying it and shipping it to me. Since I'm the one who knows what they need, why don't I just buy it for them too and stick it on the first maintenance bill"? Anything wrong yet? What?
Next comes "Well why don't I just buy it myself and rent it to them? Then if they don't want it anymore I can use it for someone else and it's more environmentally friendly". I assume you must have a problem by now since this is pretty much what Aereo are doing. So what it is? It can't be "it's a commercial venture" - it has been commercial from the start since I was paying the guy to maintain the service so it must be something else.
Finally (and this as far as I can see is the only step that goes beyond what Aereo have done), he decides that a setup per person is insane since loads of customers can share 1 setup and consolidates it down. Describe what the problem is please?
Now let's look at it from the TV company's point of view. This is an unencrypted broadcast signal, so there's no real way for them to know ever who's looking at it or where from. As far as I know the US has no TV licensing, so the potential lack of a TV at the end isn't a problem. The broadcasting TV company's revenue relies on advertising and therefore eyeballs watching, which if anything is going to go up.
If the broadcasting service really has a problem, it seems to me the best way to handle it would be to go to the guy running the service and say "Hey if you're going to do this, can we have the stats of how many people are pulling each channel and when - we can beef up our own advertising numbers with that", then everybody wins, do they not?
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Re: Re: Question
1/ Give absolutely no rights to the people that actually create the work in question
2/ Last pretty much as long as individual copyrights
3/ Still last longer than anyone who cared about the work in the first place is likely to be alive.
Yeah, my "faith" in copyright law has been restored. Thanks for the (depressing) info..
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Re:
A lack of complaint from a government to me will likely mean one of 3 things:
1/ They are sharing some or all of the "take"
2/ The US has bullied them into submission
3/ The members of the government in question have no idea just what this means for their own country.
Any of those is rather scary...
On the post: NSA Defends Encryption Backdoors By Promising It's Only Used To Spy On All Of Us
And who are these "Others"? Yep it's you.
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How about if I built this myself and put it in a rented office somewhere?
How about if I buy all the kit and rent the office but pay someone else to install it then operate it myself?
Does it make a difference if I also pay the guy to maintain it for me?
What if I invite him round to watch TV?
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Later date? Not even that!
The event in question works closely with the UK police and security services and checks out all of the 5,000+ staff that work the event. I will wager that these checks are at least as extensive as those given "pre-cleared" passengers and I know of several incidents where things have slipped through - e.g. a reporter managing to work at the event "undercover" by falsifying their background.
The point is, even for only a few thousand people, it's simply impossible to do a thorough-enough background check to be sure someone is who they claim to be - one replies on spotting "something not right" in a cursory check to dig deeper. Multiply that by the number of people that travel and it is impossible that pre-clearing can be much more than another piece of money-making security theatre.
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Who's the enemy again?
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Question
Logic and fairness would suggest that since the specific dev team is usually disbanded on completion, it would be "release date +70". However, that would limit the copyright term to something within a human-spaceflight-distance-worth of sensible, not to mention it being shorter than a copyright held by an actual creator, so I know it's not that...
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I would say that currently The US is more going for the CSA (Corporate States of America) and much of the massive rights-trampling is a by-product and UKCorp seems to be trying for full-on police state.
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Well there you have it
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Re: Re: What. The. Fuck...
In America and the UK (and other "democracies") on the other hand people get the "choice" of a limited number of largely identical people who have already sold out to several major corporate in order to raise the ludicrously large amount of money and necessary corporate backing to get anywhere near a seat of power.
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Re: The witness statements
1/ "We're bullshitting"
or
2/ "In the time we've had this harddrive, we've managed to brute-force decrypt 0.1% of the data by throwing absolutely everything we've got at it so obviously it's insecure... right?"
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Re: Interest
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Re: Re: One abuse a year...
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Re: Re: Re: 25 year old tech
I.e. with snailmail you have an expectation of privacy of the contents despite the many people that handle it between sender and recipient. E-mail has (or should have) the same expectation. Hardly rocket science even for the tech-illiterate...
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Re: "Just Abuse"?
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Re: Re: Why is this not creating an outrage?
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