Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 25 Nov 2021 @ 12:04am
Well, it doesn't exactly come as a surprise.
The loudest complainers regarding nudity and other forms of entartete kunst have always been closely linked to an aversion of the other. It comes as no surprise that a well-regarded mainstream magazine receives a pass not granted to less connected sources. Nor that imagery of nude people of difference are treated more harshly.
Basically the rules are such; If the image would grudgingly pass the censorious eye of a white christian puritan, it will stand. Otherwise the "filth" will get blocked out, lest, oh, horror, children manage to learn about the parts of the world which isn't white, christian, straight and cis.
It's the slow crawl of crap like this which has me convinced that not only are we heading for the eventual fragmentation of the internet, it'll be a good thing not to have to share that space with people so obsessed with puritan values history and anthropology are denied to everyone.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 6:24am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So lame
"It's not constructive - but when you consider how many their irrationality have killed with respect to COVID, it does beg the question as to what good being constructive will do at this point."
Statistically speaking the US should have lost some 50k people plus change to covid, even if the government was just sitting on their hands. Instead the administration made it a test of loyalty to actively defy basic medically advised precaution.
As a result of which the US now stands with an avoidable death toll superseding the number of US casualties in vietnam and both world wars combined.
"I'd opine those are people we could do without."
In which case...how?
Because from where I'm standing those 25% are actively opposed by...not that many, really. The saner majority may not agree with them much but I'm pretty sure most americans still think in terms of "It can't happen here" even when those 25% are marching outside their apartment windows singing about Horst Wessel.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 6:18am
Re: On review
"The purely evil and (should-be-) criminal actions of the police notwithstanding; Could this be a case of vigilantism? A group of poc attempting to take out white suprematists? "
I'm not sure what is more horrifying; That police officers went for a round of shooting into a crowd at random or that a van moving in firing wildly into a crowd is so common a group of citizens are prepared for it to roll in.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 6:11am
Re: Re:
"I get it. It’s only good to kill super duper rich people or people that have more than you do right? "
It really isn't good to kill people at all.
"Pointing a gun at someone is a deadly threat. If you don’t want to die don’t point a gun at another person. Especially one with a gun. "
So any armed society is one where every person lives in a mexican standoff?
You do realize that with Rittenhouse toting an AR-15 around anyone could similarly have gunned him down like a dog and claimed - truthfully - that they feared for their life?
I'm pretty sure that whether Rittenhouse was or wasn't a white supremacist or violent vigilante before the shootings is by now academic. With the Proud Boys adopting him as a mascot every friend he'll ever have in life and every circle he'll ever move in will make sure that he's one of them now.
"If you want me to feel bad that psycho right wing nutters got shot for pointing a gun at someone… not going to happen. "
In this case, looking at the background of the two people killed...turns out both of them had a long history of mental illness. Why Rosenbaum was there that day no one knows. Anthony Huber was there with his girlfriend when he saw what looked like a guy with an AR-15 running towards them, tried to protect the people behind him, and died due to misunderstanding a punk kid on an adrenaline high after shooting someone with an armed assailant...eh, I can understand if he thought it was do-or-die time, even if all he had on him was a skateboard to swing.
The third guy was a paramedic on site who just watched rittenhouse gun down a guy who was apparently trying to defend their girlfriend. Again, a bloody misunderstanding, but at least that guy lived.
None of these people were visibly armed.
What this farce tells us is again just that one thing; That you can murder at will in the US as long as you can claim you were afraid.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 5:59am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
"Uh, and he would do that to white men aiming weapons at him why?"
For the example i was trying to make; to be more scary. My point being that no matter who starts something US self-defense laws end up with the chilling outcome that when two parties, armed, confront another or one party, armed, is within arms reach of the other, any death will likely be written off as justified - no matter what led up to that confrontation.
Because self-defense laws, and even worse, the castle doctrine, hang the absolute exculpation of murder on the surviving party being able to make a jury believe they feared for their life and nothing else.
Meaning that if you want to kill someone just draw a handgun and approach them. If they react in any way you can interpret as hostile...simply gun them down. They might have been reaching for your weapon or a firearm of their own.
THAT is why this trial is a travesty. Rittenhouse is likely an absolute moron overly enamored of authoritarianism and violent solutions, judging by his background and the events leading up to the shooting. In any other nation he'd have gotten stuck with a rap sheet an arm long, beginning with the idea that in most normal territories of law an excited or upset-looking young man with a rifle running around in public would in itself be considered a rampage killer in the happening because in normal life that shit simply doesn't occur.
This whole farce is just yet another US "only in america" event, complete with a courtroom where the judge appears like they cut him out of a dark comedy show given the antics he pulled.
Now Rittenhouse is an absolute hero to the Proud Boys and the alt-right and whether he was a white supremacist from the start or not no longer matters - because he no longer has the viable option of removing him from his new "friends" without endangering himself. He's become the ultimate useful idiot of the alt-right and ensured the only friends he'll ever be able to obtain will be coming from that circle.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 5:35am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This is why people hate you you scum
"Sounds good to me!"
Well, yeah, but the party you normally keep arguing for tends to be the one with a solid decades-long record against every last thing you say "sounds good"...and that just keeps confusing me.
I do have some understanding that in the US you get to choose between the bought-and-paid-for sock puppet or the monster, but you seem to persistently pick the ones who don't even pretend to represent what you keep bringing up as your values.
Take voter disenfranchisement, for instance. Republicans in leading positions have as much as outright asserted that the real reason they do it is to make sure inconvenient people can't vote against them. That in itself is an outright condemnation of the democratic process as a whole.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 5:28am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
"Like how rittenhouse was a neo nazi who shot black people?"
There's a picture of Rittenhouse celebrating his exculpation with a bunch of Proud Boys, doing the classic white power hand sign.
And no matter how we slice it, Rittenhouse did obtain himself an AR-15, did travel quite a distance to a trouble spot, and did go in looking for people to shoot who would most certainly be black.
Those are the facts at hand, and at some point you're just going to have to accept that although we can't outright declare him a neo-nazi we can certainly declare him an adherent of white supremacy values based on his actions leading up to the shooting alone.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 4:41am
Re: Legal Aspect
"Does it boil down to "Old Man yells at cloud?""
Sort of. More accurately it'd be "Old Man yells at internet and technology".
A sci-fi movie director failing to understand how modern technology works is sort of within the purview of techdirt. Now if he'd been blaming something other than "teh intarwebz" for his film failing it'd not belong here, I think.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 4:33am
Re: Re:
Yeah, the correlation here might not be racist. Mind you, I don't think the correlation targets the vulnerable and exposed victims of crime looks that good either.
That said <checks a quick google on "baltimore police racist">...Yup, the Baltimore PD sure do act like their official uniform was a white bedsheet. You know a PD has dun goofed when the DOJ itself is producing damning reports of pervasive racial bias.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 4:21am
Re: Shocked!
"...is there something funny in the Redmond, WA water supply that makes people litigious on IP?"
Yeah. American water.
A nation which can measure 25% of it's GNP in "value of lawyers produced" will, I think, be litigious in general. And IP is in that regard just that gift to the legal profession which keeps giving.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 4:19am
Re: It's ok, I locked it...
"And it is absolutely inconceivable that a malicious actor, with a long history of picking locks or kicking down doors, could possibly get past this."
You forgot to add "...We guarantee the only people we provided with skeleton keys to said backdoors are law enforcement officials, national security officials, medical officials, insurance auditors, city health and safety regulation officials, fire safety officials, various key personnel serving the departments mentioned above. None of which have ever reported a skeleton key missing or copied. Trust us."
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 4:12am
Re:
"Even Lodos tries to make a better case for Trump being a competent ruler."
Well, aside from his apparent blind spot where Dear Leader is concerned Lostinlodoss at least has a brain. Also you can spot vestiges of a conscience.
But he's the rare exception. Most other trump cultists can't handle the level of cognitive dissonance associated in having a brain and cheering for Dear Leader and thus tend to bypass that apparatus altogether.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 4:10am
Re: Re: Mike is going to cry
"Food shortages? I don't know where you live, but there are no shortages with anything where I do. You could argue prices have spiked compared to what they were a year ago."
And, of course, the alt-right shills conveniently fail to point out that the current president always inherits the fallout coming due from the last administration. Trump was able to rest on the outcome of Obama policies and Biden is now having to deal with what Trump's policies caused. This is how, for the last ten presidencies or so, the GOP have beaten their chests claiming credit for what the last guy did.
That's one explanation for the inflation spiking. Trump's reign wasn't too good on anything pandemic-related so now when people once again need things they couldn't care less about when they were in full quarantine the supply chains literally don't exist any longer.
And then there's the other half of the equation; Inflation is responsible for some price hikes, yes, and the gaps in the supply chain exacerbate that issue...but the major reason for the massive price hike has to do with all of the US market by now consisting of pseudo-monopolies and cartels all taking the opportunity to price hike in lockstep. Google "We need to talk about the real reason behind US inflation" by Robert Reich. Interesting how so many US corporations in this time of crisis are increasing their margins innit?
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 2:36am
Re: from the dude,-come-on dept
"The letter, and the lawsuit if one follows, are PR to be lapped up by people who are already convinced that "the mainstream media" has zero standards, lies all the time, and that the only source of truth is DJT who is Fighting For You. The letter has no other function."
And the problem is, of course, that too many of the sane and rational still think a tort is meant to address a grievance and laugh in disbelief at the clown launching lawsuits at random where he has no hope to win.
Meanwhile the 25% of the US citizenry still subscribing to Dear Leader's fan club and cult will just shoehorn it into their victim complex. Points seven and eight from Umberto Eco's 14 features of fascism.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 2:27am
Re: Re: Re: Re: Credebility Loss
"let it sink in that because of their turning a solely scientific problem into a political one, we have north of 750,000 people dead. "
Just a number, but to put that into context;
Vietnam War: 58,220 American casualties.
World War One: 116,516 American casualties.
World War Two: 405,399 American Casualties.
Statistically speaking the pandemic would have cost the population of a first world nation the size of the US somewhere around 50k dead if all they did was sit on their hands.
The rest, more dead americans than both world wars and vietnam together cost the US - can all be blamed on the Trump administration willfully trying to turn defying normal medical precautions a test of loyalty.
Let that sink in - Trump and his gang cost the US more dead people than Wilhelm II, the whole of Viet Cong and Hitler together.
"At some point, you run into the paradox of tolerance. That's where I am. These people are beyond just making poor decisions. They're doing it and it's putting us in significant danger. It's not just 'another opinion' or 'diverse ideas' - this stupidity is getting people killed in significant numbers."
I've been advocating applying Popper's "Paradox of Tolerance" for some time now. Changing the law to make those misfits go away just means they win - because when they come to power again that law will be used against you.
But there is something you can do, as a citizen. Stop putting up with those people. Don't tolerate them. Don't lend them the credibility of your silence and grudging inclusion. Not as employees, not as partners, not as family members, not as part of your circle. Because those who vote for the fascist don't get to plead that it wasn't the fascist ideal they voted for;
“Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.”
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 24 Nov 2021 @ 1:26am
Re: Re:
"How can you really say that when the RIGHT has been complaining about being the victim of voter fraud that cost Trump the election for over a year now, with absolutely zero evidence to support the claims."
Two of the 14 points of fascist ideology right there; The eternal victimhood of the "superior" faction oppressed by the lesser faction, and the adherence to a Big Lie which explains away the majority of people not being on their side.
To these people the fact that they are no longer given ample freedom to consider the other as lesser is what they think makes them martyrs. They're just barely cunning enough never to put that in words because even the alt-right dimly realizes that being visibly upset about not being able to look down on others isn't a good look.
Leading to people like our dear shitwit Baghdad Bob, above, vaguely crying about being the REAL victim...because apparently the factual actions of Dear Leader casting doubt on Dear Leader hurts him to the core.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 23 Nov 2021 @ 7:35am
Re:
"It's also corrosive to public trust in the FBI, government in general, and society as a whole."
That ship has sailed. Sorry, but the final shreds of trust in the FBI died with the Church commission. The US police have a record comparable to more violent gangs. Being armed does not make you safe - but nothing will when that's the sort of society you live in.
Scary Devil Monastery (profile), 23 Nov 2021 @ 7:27am
Re: Stop with the virtue signaling BS
"O'Keefe and Project Veritas most likely ARE involved in the theft of the diaries. This is what they do."
That is plausible, given their record.
However, the FBI raid is indeed concerning. Sure, we're talking about a diary belonging to a relative of the president which means it may contain state secrets overheard and written down, making this an espionage case and giving the federales all the ammo they need to make the case for this raid.
Even so the end result is Hoover's old cadre of G-men swooping in, once again, on a known muckraker who may have a bonanza of dirt for them. I somehow doubt Biden keeps the nuclear launch codes in his daughters diary so this response seems disproportional unless we go with the idea that the feds decided on this particular course of action themselves. Which, sadly, fits their traditional old M.O.
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Well, it doesn't exactly come as a surprise.
The loudest complainers regarding nudity and other forms of entartete kunst have always been closely linked to an aversion of the other. It comes as no surprise that a well-regarded mainstream magazine receives a pass not granted to less connected sources. Nor that imagery of nude people of difference are treated more harshly.
Basically the rules are such; If the image would grudgingly pass the censorious eye of a white christian puritan, it will stand. Otherwise the "filth" will get blocked out, lest, oh, horror, children manage to learn about the parts of the world which isn't white, christian, straight and cis.
It's the slow crawl of crap like this which has me convinced that not only are we heading for the eventual fragmentation of the internet, it'll be a good thing not to have to share that space with people so obsessed with puritan values history and anthropology are denied to everyone.
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Re: Re: Re:
Well, it's not the only one. But it is among the very, very few.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So lame
"It's not constructive - but when you consider how many their irrationality have killed with respect to COVID, it does beg the question as to what good being constructive will do at this point."
Statistically speaking the US should have lost some 50k people plus change to covid, even if the government was just sitting on their hands. Instead the administration made it a test of loyalty to actively defy basic medically advised precaution.
As a result of which the US now stands with an avoidable death toll superseding the number of US casualties in vietnam and both world wars combined.
"I'd opine those are people we could do without."
In which case...how?
Because from where I'm standing those 25% are actively opposed by...not that many, really. The saner majority may not agree with them much but I'm pretty sure most americans still think in terms of "It can't happen here" even when those 25% are marching outside their apartment windows singing about Horst Wessel.
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Re: On review
"The purely evil and (should-be-) criminal actions of the police notwithstanding; Could this be a case of vigilantism? A group of poc attempting to take out white suprematists? "
I'm not sure what is more horrifying; That police officers went for a round of shooting into a crowd at random or that a van moving in firing wildly into a crowd is so common a group of citizens are prepared for it to roll in.
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Re: Re:
"I get it. It’s only good to kill super duper rich people or people that have more than you do right? "
It really isn't good to kill people at all.
"Pointing a gun at someone is a deadly threat. If you don’t want to die don’t point a gun at another person. Especially one with a gun. "
So any armed society is one where every person lives in a mexican standoff?
You do realize that with Rittenhouse toting an AR-15 around anyone could similarly have gunned him down like a dog and claimed - truthfully - that they feared for their life?
I'm pretty sure that whether Rittenhouse was or wasn't a white supremacist or violent vigilante before the shootings is by now academic. With the Proud Boys adopting him as a mascot every friend he'll ever have in life and every circle he'll ever move in will make sure that he's one of them now.
"If you want me to feel bad that psycho right wing nutters got shot for pointing a gun at someone… not going to happen. "
In this case, looking at the background of the two people killed...turns out both of them had a long history of mental illness. Why Rosenbaum was there that day no one knows. Anthony Huber was there with his girlfriend when he saw what looked like a guy with an AR-15 running towards them, tried to protect the people behind him, and died due to misunderstanding a punk kid on an adrenaline high after shooting someone with an armed assailant...eh, I can understand if he thought it was do-or-die time, even if all he had on him was a skateboard to swing.
The third guy was a paramedic on site who just watched rittenhouse gun down a guy who was apparently trying to defend their girlfriend. Again, a bloody misunderstanding, but at least that guy lived.
None of these people were visibly armed.
What this farce tells us is again just that one thing; That you can murder at will in the US as long as you can claim you were afraid.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
"Uh, and he would do that to white men aiming weapons at him why?"
For the example i was trying to make; to be more scary. My point being that no matter who starts something US self-defense laws end up with the chilling outcome that when two parties, armed, confront another or one party, armed, is within arms reach of the other, any death will likely be written off as justified - no matter what led up to that confrontation.
Because self-defense laws, and even worse, the castle doctrine, hang the absolute exculpation of murder on the surviving party being able to make a jury believe they feared for their life and nothing else.
Meaning that if you want to kill someone just draw a handgun and approach them. If they react in any way you can interpret as hostile...simply gun them down. They might have been reaching for your weapon or a firearm of their own.
THAT is why this trial is a travesty. Rittenhouse is likely an absolute moron overly enamored of authoritarianism and violent solutions, judging by his background and the events leading up to the shooting. In any other nation he'd have gotten stuck with a rap sheet an arm long, beginning with the idea that in most normal territories of law an excited or upset-looking young man with a rifle running around in public would in itself be considered a rampage killer in the happening because in normal life that shit simply doesn't occur.
This whole farce is just yet another US "only in america" event, complete with a courtroom where the judge appears like they cut him out of a dark comedy show given the antics he pulled.
Now Rittenhouse is an absolute hero to the Proud Boys and the alt-right and whether he was a white supremacist from the start or not no longer matters - because he no longer has the viable option of removing him from his new "friends" without endangering himself. He's become the ultimate useful idiot of the alt-right and ensured the only friends he'll ever be able to obtain will be coming from that circle.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This is why people hate you you scum
"Sounds good to me!"
Well, yeah, but the party you normally keep arguing for tends to be the one with a solid decades-long record against every last thing you say "sounds good"...and that just keeps confusing me.
I do have some understanding that in the US you get to choose between the bought-and-paid-for sock puppet or the monster, but you seem to persistently pick the ones who don't even pretend to represent what you keep bringing up as your values.
Take voter disenfranchisement, for instance. Republicans in leading positions have as much as outright asserted that the real reason they do it is to make sure inconvenient people can't vote against them. That in itself is an outright condemnation of the democratic process as a whole.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
"Like how rittenhouse was a neo nazi who shot black people?"
There's a picture of Rittenhouse celebrating his exculpation with a bunch of Proud Boys, doing the classic white power hand sign.
And no matter how we slice it, Rittenhouse did obtain himself an AR-15, did travel quite a distance to a trouble spot, and did go in looking for people to shoot who would most certainly be black.
Those are the facts at hand, and at some point you're just going to have to accept that although we can't outright declare him a neo-nazi we can certainly declare him an adherent of white supremacy values based on his actions leading up to the shooting alone.
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Re: Legal Aspect
"Does it boil down to "Old Man yells at cloud?""
Sort of. More accurately it'd be "Old Man yells at internet and technology".
A sci-fi movie director failing to understand how modern technology works is sort of within the purview of techdirt. Now if he'd been blaming something other than "teh intarwebz" for his film failing it'd not belong here, I think.
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Re: Re:
Yeah, the correlation here might not be racist. Mind you, I don't think the correlation targets the vulnerable and exposed victims of crime looks that good either.
That said <checks a quick google on "baltimore police racist">...Yup, the Baltimore PD sure do act like their official uniform was a white bedsheet. You know a PD has dun goofed when the DOJ itself is producing damning reports of pervasive racial bias.
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Re: Shocked!
"...is there something funny in the Redmond, WA water supply that makes people litigious on IP?"
Yeah. American water.
A nation which can measure 25% of it's GNP in "value of lawyers produced" will, I think, be litigious in general. And IP is in that regard just that gift to the legal profession which keeps giving.
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Re: It's ok, I locked it...
"And it is absolutely inconceivable that a malicious actor, with a long history of picking locks or kicking down doors, could possibly get past this."
You forgot to add "...We guarantee the only people we provided with skeleton keys to said backdoors are law enforcement officials, national security officials, medical officials, insurance auditors, city health and safety regulation officials, fire safety officials, various key personnel serving the departments mentioned above. None of which have ever reported a skeleton key missing or copied. Trust us."
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Re:
"Even Lodos tries to make a better case for Trump being a competent ruler."
Well, aside from his apparent blind spot where Dear Leader is concerned Lostinlodoss at least has a brain. Also you can spot vestiges of a conscience.
But he's the rare exception. Most other trump cultists can't handle the level of cognitive dissonance associated in having a brain and cheering for Dear Leader and thus tend to bypass that apparatus altogether.
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Re: Re: Mike is going to cry
"Food shortages? I don't know where you live, but there are no shortages with anything where I do. You could argue prices have spiked compared to what they were a year ago."
And, of course, the alt-right shills conveniently fail to point out that the current president always inherits the fallout coming due from the last administration. Trump was able to rest on the outcome of Obama policies and Biden is now having to deal with what Trump's policies caused. This is how, for the last ten presidencies or so, the GOP have beaten their chests claiming credit for what the last guy did.
That's one explanation for the inflation spiking. Trump's reign wasn't too good on anything pandemic-related so now when people once again need things they couldn't care less about when they were in full quarantine the supply chains literally don't exist any longer.
And then there's the other half of the equation; Inflation is responsible for some price hikes, yes, and the gaps in the supply chain exacerbate that issue...but the major reason for the massive price hike has to do with all of the US market by now consisting of pseudo-monopolies and cartels all taking the opportunity to price hike in lockstep. Google "We need to talk about the real reason behind US inflation" by Robert Reich. Interesting how so many US corporations in this time of crisis are increasing their margins innit?
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Re: from the dude,-come-on dept
"The letter, and the lawsuit if one follows, are PR to be lapped up by people who are already convinced that "the mainstream media" has zero standards, lies all the time, and that the only source of truth is DJT who is Fighting For You. The letter has no other function."
And the problem is, of course, that too many of the sane and rational still think a tort is meant to address a grievance and laugh in disbelief at the clown launching lawsuits at random where he has no hope to win.
Meanwhile the 25% of the US citizenry still subscribing to Dear Leader's fan club and cult will just shoehorn it into their victim complex. Points seven and eight from Umberto Eco's 14 features of fascism.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Credebility Loss
"let it sink in that because of their turning a solely scientific problem into a political one, we have north of 750,000 people dead. "
Just a number, but to put that into context;
Statistically speaking the pandemic would have cost the population of a first world nation the size of the US somewhere around 50k dead if all they did was sit on their hands.
The rest, more dead americans than both world wars and vietnam together cost the US - can all be blamed on the Trump administration willfully trying to turn defying normal medical precautions a test of loyalty.
Let that sink in - Trump and his gang cost the US more dead people than Wilhelm II, the whole of Viet Cong and Hitler together.
"At some point, you run into the paradox of tolerance. That's where I am. These people are beyond just making poor decisions. They're doing it and it's putting us in significant danger. It's not just 'another opinion' or 'diverse ideas' - this stupidity is getting people killed in significant numbers."
I've been advocating applying Popper's "Paradox of Tolerance" for some time now. Changing the law to make those misfits go away just means they win - because when they come to power again that law will be used against you.
But there is something you can do, as a citizen. Stop putting up with those people. Don't tolerate them. Don't lend them the credibility of your silence and grudging inclusion. Not as employees, not as partners, not as family members, not as part of your circle. Because those who vote for the fascist don't get to plead that it wasn't the fascist ideal they voted for;
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Credebility Loss
"Koby has a peer? Where, pray tell, is this alleged peer? If there's more than one of him, I'm quitting the internet!"
He certainly does. A lot of them. Usually found in places like Parler, Gab and Stormfront.
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Re: Re:
"How can you really say that when the RIGHT has been complaining about being the victim of voter fraud that cost Trump the election for over a year now, with absolutely zero evidence to support the claims."
Two of the 14 points of fascist ideology right there; The eternal victimhood of the "superior" faction oppressed by the lesser faction, and the adherence to a Big Lie which explains away the majority of people not being on their side.
To these people the fact that they are no longer given ample freedom to consider the other as lesser is what they think makes them martyrs. They're just barely cunning enough never to put that in words because even the alt-right dimly realizes that being visibly upset about not being able to look down on others isn't a good look.
Leading to people like our dear shitwit Baghdad Bob, above, vaguely crying about being the REAL victim...because apparently the factual actions of Dear Leader casting doubt on Dear Leader hurts him to the core.
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"It's also corrosive to public trust in the FBI, government in general, and society as a whole."
That ship has sailed. Sorry, but the final shreds of trust in the FBI died with the Church commission. The US police have a record comparable to more violent gangs. Being armed does not make you safe - but nothing will when that's the sort of society you live in.
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"O'Keefe and Project Veritas most likely ARE involved in the theft of the diaries. This is what they do."
That is plausible, given their record.
However, the FBI raid is indeed concerning. Sure, we're talking about a diary belonging to a relative of the president which means it may contain state secrets overheard and written down, making this an espionage case and giving the federales all the ammo they need to make the case for this raid.
Even so the end result is Hoover's old cadre of G-men swooping in, once again, on a known muckraker who may have a bonanza of dirt for them. I somehow doubt Biden keeps the nuclear launch codes in his daughters diary so this response seems disproportional unless we go with the idea that the feds decided on this particular course of action themselves. Which, sadly, fits their traditional old M.O.
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