You never looked at my profile dd you, otherwise you would of known that calling my area of forensics pseudo-science shows how stupid you look.
Digital Forensics is totally unlike Medical (toxicology or otherwise), ballistics, "blood spatters", Fingerprints or whatever I normally laugh at on such comedies like CSI on the telly. Unlike the above (and other subsets of Forensics) Digital Forensics is the actual and specific application of PROVEN methodologies & techniques that are not still based on theoretical ideas that might work some of the time.
next time read and understand all you are blathering about because you clearly understand what you think is the scientific method, whereas to everyone else you clearly in reality don't.!
Do some reading on the History of GPS and be amazed at what the USG tried to stop happening regarding the maximum errors non US military get (and still control to this day).
The US Military and Government like every governments is Egotistic and never thinks anyone else is as smart (or smarter) than they are. Your old restrictions on encryption algorithms is a prime (ha!) example of this.
I would of thought the Rafale was a better all rounder though the SAAB is a nice contender and still a LOT better than F18's who are really specific in what they are meant for.
If Brazil gets the MIGs the US is going to have conniptions. Though maybe the Four way economic powerhouse of China, Brazil, France/Sweden/EU & Russia can start looking at getting away from the current US Centric world economy and once more look at creating a new standard currency that removes the US$ from its current powerful position (too big to fail)
hmmmm.. so let me guess part of Hillsong? or another Charismatic creed? One of those people who think the High Court challenge next week about Chaplains in Schools should NEVER be removed and how dare the courts decide whats best for our kids (I'll let you guess who's side I'm on) or an anti-vaxxer? Or are you someone who came on here .. saw the "god" reference in the article and had to troll/witness
As for my understanding of Religious beliefs and scientific methods, maybe you should look at my profile to understand that Forensics is the absolute practical application of the scientific method and determining what is instead of what isn't (like gods etc). As for controversy within the scientific community regarding Quantum Physics and its many strange flavours and spin (pun intended) some place upon it, so what? that happens in all HUMAN endeavours and has throughout history. That still doesn't explain the major absolute difference that is Science vs Mythos/Faith.
Firstly I suspect you really need to understand the difference between religion and scientific method. One is based on unsubstantiated faith about a supernatural powerful omnipresent entity(s).
The other is based on observable IN YOUR FACE results.
There is No 'faith' in science. It either is or it isn't.. it's either observable based on reasonable and producable results or isn't.
Religions on the other hand are based on power, ego, and Invisible entities that will make you suffer if you do not do what the minority in control of that creed want.
So from your understanding the USA would then allow this to happen to non-US companies on non US soil then..
or is reciprocity only unilateral when it comes to the USA's interests? hmmm.
And there have already been cases like this already where companies have had to refuse due to jurisdictional privacy issues where they are co-located. It's not as cut and dry as you imagine. In fact its very very murky and fraught with a whole range of problems for MS or any company in this predicament.
Oh and they can fulfill the subpoena by attending and stating that due to legal jurisdictional sovereignty issues - criminal ones would be better for them - they are unable though not unwilling to comply . The court then has major problems and is in a pretty interesting bind (though i suspect a lower court or sensible magistrate judge would punt it up the line then).
Again this would of been fixed if they went the appropriate jurisdictional due process route.. Ego is better than comity though I gather in the USA *shrugs*
Great theory.. though lets look into my crystal ball and see what would occur in practice.
You Secede from the US, form some new jurisdiction.. lets call it Free-State
You are the law in Free-state.. You throw yourself a party.. Ego's inflate everywhere in Free-state. All is well in your world.
You authorise a writ for a warrant of seizure to obtain US Governmental email. WOOT!
The US ignores you.
You jump up and down.. threaten everything..
The US Laughs at you.. the internet eats popcorn
You threaten more...
late one night masked people all in balck come into your compound find you and you are never EVER seen from again since your body was dropped into some ocean from a great height..
The world wonders..
a week goes by....
some new drama unfolds.. people forget about you.. popcorn sellers are saddened.
you do realize that Warrants are not just all "Search Warrants" don't you?
In fact a Warrant is at its basics a writ issued by an authority for an otherwise illegal act to be committed with impunity. Therefore search, seizure, possession (in my jurisdiction only), Possessory, Execution, Arrest, etc are all forms of Warrants.. not just search
seems your comment was just another bit of uninformed blargha flargha from an AC
The EU and a whole bunch of other countries (all Commonwealth cones too) actually has a Data law that states that data can not just be sent willy nilly around the planet without safeguards in place whether you are the owner of that data or not (though an owner does have more ability than most).
If that data has commercially sensitive information that has references to commercial and/or private Irish entities (or any other entities other than specifically and solely Microsoft) than the Data laws come into effect.
These laws are already causing US cloud companies no end of angst over compliance policies etc. And will cause more as these Rules and Regulations become more and more Consumer and privacy orientated.
If the US Courts want this data so badly they only need to apply through APPROPRIATE jurisdictional avenues with the Irish courts, but the egotistic nature of most American entities means they think they can just route through all due processes no matter what.. just because.. Fuckin Eagles!!
I think that Heinlien stated it best (via Lazarus Long):
The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history.
The second most preposterous notion is that copulation and masturbation is inherently sinful.
There is a limit to how much stupidity people can utter before I 'automatically' consider that whatever else they may have to say is not worth listening too.
Very true.. and for you making your whole thread on the justification that stating that somehow your diety (God) would not like it and would never of done it just for that purpose means that I have automatically come to a conclusion that YOU are absolutely NOT WORTH LISTENING TO!
please stop using fsck in place of fuck.. repeat after me.. fsck is used to check file systems. fuck is used in multiple ways and is only used in file checking when the file system is ... well.... fucked!
Actually just because the US justice system thinks subpoenas can cross jurisdictional boundaries doesn't mean they can in actuality or practice.
Oh and if it's for a criminal situation.. its a warrant no matter how they try to spin it.
Both EU & Irish law overrides whatever legal fictions the US wants to impose here though for a US company like MS its a LOSE-LOSE situation in that if they don't comply via the US directive they can be sanctioned, whereas if they do comply with US order they will be in absolute breach of current laws (up to and including criminal ones) and will be held accountable that way too.
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How can organisations make any money if all they have is anonimized data that no marketing company would ever pay a load of cash for
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Digital Forensics is totally unlike Medical (toxicology or otherwise), ballistics, "blood spatters", Fingerprints or whatever I normally laugh at on such comedies like CSI on the telly. Unlike the above (and other subsets of Forensics) Digital Forensics is the actual and specific application of PROVEN methodologies & techniques that are not still based on theoretical ideas that might work some of the time.
next time read and understand all you are blathering about because you clearly understand what you think is the scientific method, whereas to everyone else you clearly in reality don't.!
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The US Military and Government like every governments is Egotistic and never thinks anyone else is as smart (or smarter) than they are. Your old restrictions on encryption algorithms is a prime (ha!) example of this.
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If Brazil gets the MIGs the US is going to have conniptions. Though maybe the Four way economic powerhouse of China, Brazil, France/Sweden/EU & Russia can start looking at getting away from the current US Centric world economy and once more look at creating a new standard currency that removes the US$ from its current powerful position (too big to fail)
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nuff said
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and reading above I see you too are an Aussie..
hmmmm.. so let me guess part of Hillsong? or another Charismatic creed? One of those people who think the High Court challenge next week about Chaplains in Schools should NEVER be removed and how dare the courts decide whats best for our kids (I'll let you guess who's side I'm on) or an anti-vaxxer? Or are you someone who came on here .. saw the "god" reference in the article and had to troll/witness
As for my understanding of Religious beliefs and scientific methods, maybe you should look at my profile to understand that Forensics is the absolute practical application of the scientific method and determining what is instead of what isn't (like gods etc). As for controversy within the scientific community regarding Quantum Physics and its many strange flavours and spin (pun intended) some place upon it, so what? that happens in all HUMAN endeavours and has throughout history. That still doesn't explain the major absolute difference that is Science vs Mythos/Faith.
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WTF are you on about??/
Firstly I suspect you really need to understand the difference between religion and scientific method. One is based on unsubstantiated faith about a supernatural powerful omnipresent entity(s).
The other is based on observable IN YOUR FACE results.
There is No 'faith' in science. It either is or it isn't.. it's either observable based on reasonable and producable results or isn't.
Religions on the other hand are based on power, ego, and Invisible entities that will make you suffer if you do not do what the minority in control of that creed want.
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or is reciprocity only unilateral when it comes to the USA's interests? hmmm.
And there have already been cases like this already where companies have had to refuse due to jurisdictional privacy issues where they are co-located. It's not as cut and dry as you imagine. In fact its very very murky and fraught with a whole range of problems for MS or any company in this predicament.
Oh and they can fulfill the subpoena by attending and stating that due to legal jurisdictional sovereignty issues - criminal ones would be better for them - they are unable though not unwilling to comply . The court then has major problems and is in a pretty interesting bind (though i suspect a lower court or sensible magistrate judge would punt it up the line then).
Again this would of been fixed if they went the appropriate jurisdictional due process route.. Ego is better than comity though I gather in the USA *shrugs*
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http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/itsnotitsnew.gif
(Cyanide & Happiness for the double BAZINGA)
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You Secede from the US, form some new jurisdiction.. lets call it Free-State
You are the law in Free-state.. You throw yourself a party.. Ego's inflate everywhere in Free-state. All is well in your world.
You authorise a writ for a warrant of seizure to obtain US Governmental email. WOOT!
The US ignores you.
You jump up and down.. threaten everything..
The US Laughs at you.. the internet eats popcorn
You threaten more...
late one night masked people all in balck come into your compound find you and you are never EVER seen from again since your body was dropped into some ocean from a great height..
The world wonders..
a week goes by....
some new drama unfolds.. people forget about you.. popcorn sellers are saddened.
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you do realize that Warrants are not just all "Search Warrants" don't you?
In fact a Warrant is at its basics a writ issued by an authority for an otherwise illegal act to be committed with impunity. Therefore search, seizure, possession (in my jurisdiction only), Possessory, Execution, Arrest, etc are all forms of Warrants.. not just search
seems your comment was just another bit of uninformed blargha flargha from an AC
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If that data has commercially sensitive information that has references to commercial and/or private Irish entities (or any other entities other than specifically and solely Microsoft) than the Data laws come into effect.
These laws are already causing US cloud companies no end of angst over compliance policies etc. And will cause more as these Rules and Regulations become more and more Consumer and privacy orientated.
If the US Courts want this data so badly they only need to apply through APPROPRIATE jurisdictional avenues with the Irish courts, but the egotistic nature of most American entities means they think they can just route through all due processes no matter what.. just because.. Fuckin Eagles!!
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Sorry.. I know... off to the naughty corner with me LOL
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And don't forget thumbs... well they are wankers!
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are you stating that teenagers don't masturbate, or are you one of the 0.0001% that have never done so.
PS: the other 99.999% call this LYING!
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Very true.. and for you making your whole thread on the justification that stating that somehow your diety (God) would not like it and would never of done it just for that purpose means that I have automatically come to a conclusion that YOU are absolutely NOT WORTH LISTENING TO!
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Oh and if it's for a criminal situation.. its a warrant no matter how they try to spin it.
Both EU & Irish law overrides whatever legal fictions the US wants to impose here though for a US company like MS its a LOSE-LOSE situation in that if they don't comply via the US directive they can be sanctioned, whereas if they do comply with US order they will be in absolute breach of current laws (up to and including criminal ones) and will be held accountable that way too.
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