"remove the protection that allows sites to allow user posting" Can someone translate this into english?
Ok, short answer is before 230 there was a case that one of the first online services got slammed for something someone posted. Because of that ruling, online providers would only be able to leave content completely unmoderated (spam and all) if they were going to allow content online.
Section 230 addressed that, and specifically shifted the liability to the poster, not the service. Services were free to moderate and would be shielded.
This has made a great number of people unhappy. But it is a happy medium that let the internet as we now know it happen.
Without the protection of section 230, this posting board could not exist. Open comments would have to be held and checked - thoroughly - for anything remotely libelous or sketchy. (Even bad stock tips. Seriously.)
Since it would be impossible to filter out all bad content - even if TF hired a team of experts - this comment section would be shut down because they'd be sued for the comment contents - even the crazy drek the AC's post.
I'm glad those cops were able to protect themselves by tossing live grenades into people homes 50% of the time. The number would certainly be higher but for the meddling libs! Think how safe the police would be if they threw them 100% of the time??
The suit was dismissed - with prejudice. So any further suits would be frowned upon. (They could file a completely different suit, but the new judge will look at this case.)
The article includes quotes from people who were actually on the scene who backed up the article. So the coverage wasn't as biased as you are making it out.
Of course the kids were bused in to slut-shame pregnant women so we know their motives were pure.
Is there someone angling to become a third party that "verifies" posts and other content?
New content is uploaded at such a prodigious rate now - if we started verifying all content before it got posted (and by a third party!) your kids might not live to see this post go up. :)
Exactly. Low-paid employees that hate their job are given access to vast amounts of personal information collected by AT&T. They are easy targets for scammers and hackers who need an inside angle.
Politicians seem to have cranked up their reality distortion field because they want to "Do Something." They can't tell the difference between the truth and their spin half the time.
This is especially apparent with 230. So many people talking about it but can't seem to just get the basic facts straight.
We can't talk about how to fix it (or not fix it) until we have an honest discourse of how it is currently working. As it's been upheld by the courts, we should have a pretty good baseline to discuss what it is doing now.
When it comes down to it, 230 is about putting blame on the poster rather than the carrier. A fundamental concept that has allowed user generated content to flourish. Without it we are down to walled gardens, with only content approved by a few gatekeepers like Disney.
You'd think that with the confidence exuded by Hamilton and his army of TOR-generated IP addresses, Trump's 2020 presidency was a done deal. But nah, Hamilton continues to get triggered over copyright trolls getting handed to him because reasons.
He seems pretty upset about the whole Copyright troll thing for some reason. Who know trolls have a union and stick up for each other?
A couple wacckos on the left, and it's an army of terrorists all of a sudden. Nevermind all the violence from Trumpers - that's just protecting 'Murica!
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Stephen I think he said "Go to the source" of the news and deal with them like garbage - not the source of the complaint.
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Right, that was a normal warrant. For the no-knock ones they fire one thru each window. 50% of the time or so...
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You really want to see the snowflakes melt, ask them to back up el Cheetos lies. A little fact checking and they lose their shit.
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"remove the protection that allows sites to allow user posting"
Can someone translate this into english?
Ok, short answer is before 230 there was a case that one of the first online services got slammed for something someone posted. Because of that ruling, online providers would only be able to leave content completely unmoderated (spam and all) if they were going to allow content online.
Section 230 addressed that, and specifically shifted the liability to the poster, not the service. Services were free to moderate and would be shielded.
This has made a great number of people unhappy. But it is a happy medium that let the internet as we now know it happen.
Without the protection of section 230, this posting board could not exist. Open comments would have to be held and checked - thoroughly - for anything remotely libelous or sketchy. (Even bad stock tips. Seriously.)
Since it would be impossible to filter out all bad content - even if TF hired a team of experts - this comment section would be shut down because they'd be sued for the comment contents - even the crazy drek the AC's post.
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Apparently the Gilroy shooter did seem obsessed with racial superiority, and posted a link to a white power book just before the shooting. :(
But throwing milkshakes - that is the work of a real terrorist group.
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Go out with a bang
I'm glad those cops were able to protect themselves by tossing live grenades into people homes 50% of the time. The number would certainly be higher but for the meddling libs! Think how safe the police would be if they threw them 100% of the time??
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Re: Leftist article
This is why the right as to go to the source and start dealing with reporters like some of the garbage
Yes, we understand that Putin is in bed with Trump, who wants to jail/kill his critics like Putin does. No bad news if there is no news, right?
Why do Trumnpers get their diapers in such a bunch so badly that they have to start threatening free speech the moment someone starts fact-checking?
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
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Well thankfully you still have InfoWars to tell it to you straight, eh?
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The suit was dismissed - with prejudice. So any further suits would be frowned upon. (They could file a completely different suit, but the new judge will look at this case.)
The article includes quotes from people who were actually on the scene who backed up the article. So the coverage wasn't as biased as you are making it out.
Of course the kids were bused in to slut-shame pregnant women so we know their motives were pure.
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Yeah not convinced you have free speech in mind when you bring up the alt-right trolling of Sara Jeong.
https://www.vox.com/2018/8/3/17644704/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-tweets-backlash-racism
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Copyright Troll Richard Liebowitz out of business?
On the other hand, if all user-generated content was blocked by default it would put copyright trolls out of business. So - Upside?
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...and ordinary criminals who know nothing of hacking but know how to bribe people.
I thought I'd covered that with "Scammers" but sure. (Not all scammers are self-help authors, most are just low grade criminals.)
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Re: Re: What's the end game?
Is there someone angling to become a third party that "verifies" posts and other content?
New content is uploaded at such a prodigious rate now - if we started verifying all content before it got posted (and by a third party!) your kids might not live to see this post go up. :)
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Re: Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater
But a decade with of data shows little to no safety benefit for intersections with the cameras. It's just a failed experiment in automated tolls.
The police don't seem to need an actual reason to pull over PoC when they want to.
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The endgame is total lockout of any Imaginary Property protected via a copyright monopoly.
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Exactly. Low-paid employees that hate their job are given access to vast amounts of personal information collected by AT&T. They are easy targets for scammers and hackers who need an inside angle.
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What they Want
Politicians seem to have cranked up their reality distortion field because they want to "Do Something." They can't tell the difference between the truth and their spin half the time.
This is especially apparent with 230. So many people talking about it but can't seem to just get the basic facts straight.
We can't talk about how to fix it (or not fix it) until we have an honest discourse of how it is currently working. As it's been upheld by the courts, we should have a pretty good baseline to discuss what it is doing now.
When it comes down to it, 230 is about putting blame on the poster rather than the carrier. A fundamental concept that has allowed user generated content to flourish. Without it we are down to walled gardens, with only content approved by a few gatekeepers like Disney.
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Liability aside, we need to re-think how we use our phones for security. They are an insecure mess.
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Indeed. TY.
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You'd think that with the confidence exuded by Hamilton and his army of TOR-generated IP addresses, Trump's 2020 presidency was a done deal. But nah, Hamilton continues to get triggered over copyright trolls getting handed to him because reasons.
He seems pretty upset about the whole Copyright troll thing for some reason. Who know trolls have a union and stick up for each other?
A couple wacckos on the left, and it's an army of terrorists all of a sudden. Nevermind all the violence from Trumpers - that's just protecting 'Murica!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/26/politics/suspicious-packages-arrest/index.html
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