"Why don't "pirates" feel any remorse? Because they are paying for the broadband that brings them the access. It's not that people don't want to pay, it's that they feel they have paid already."
Amen brother. And ditto for the comment about advertising. People will pay a SMALL premium to avoid advertising, but do not like being forced to pay tons and tons for it.
The answer to monopolies is an end to copyright and the advancement of existing peer to peer networking technology so that all the information is available without any central hub whatsoever.
I'm thinking wireless is the thing that will finally allow that to happen in a way the government/corporate diad can't shut down, but that would need to be a fully wireless internet, which still leaves the hardware gurus in control.
Peer to peer wireless without any central registration necessary....? Maybe? Does that already exist? I don't think that exists.
Candles outsell IPODs. I honestly have no intention of looking to see to what extent they might or might not result in more profits, but in terms of the number of sales, and the bulk of the goods, I am sure they do.
I have a hard time imagining anything related to movies that would be scarce if the movie itself was free. I don't even particularly like theaters. Movies are an example of something that should be made either to promote a message you yourself want promoted, or else made for a sponsor who wants the movie made.
I suspect the way to go about making movies for entertainment is to cast about for people who want a certain kind of movie made, or else write a story and pitch the idea of making the movie, then looking for people to fund the project.
There are legitimate concerns about the business model of using the free to market the scarce, but none of them are worth trading in our civil rights for, and that is the root problem. Technology has advanced to the point that it is now impossible to hide the fact that IP laws directly violate ideas of free expression and civil rights concerning free speech and press.
Your "business model" depends on an organization that you have nothing to do with. It's not "yours". You don't make copies for a living. You perform for a living. You should concentrate on getting paid more every time you perform, and on performing more often.
In order to do that, you might consider giving copies of your music away. Reason being, copying your music is free anyway. The only way you ever get, or got, paid was by getting the government to threaten people with jail time and heavy fines for doing something they really don't need you for to begin with. That's not nice of you, and indeed it is not some sort of innate right you have.
If you find it hard to make money singing and dancing, you might consider some other line of work, and sing and dance for fun like most of the rest of us do.
Not meaning any offense, but I am worn out by the requirements you and other artists put on our lives, then get upset that we are all somehow putting you out somehow.
I can get free music every Sunday at church. You know why? Because they have a message that the music helps sell.
Do you have a message? I mean, apart from, "Please give me money?"
No, we're going to strap bombs to our backsides and go blow things up. Because that works SO WELL in the Middle East.
Yes, we are going to discuss things rationally, attempt to identify allies, try to gin up passion and support, and lobby for peaceful change. We're going to study the economy, see if there are other parts of it that tie into this, see what we can do to change those as well.
We're going to organize, think, act with conscious integrity and fight the good fight.
Yes, that is exactly what we are going to do. Because that is what works. It is what THEY did to get us here, in fact. All except the parts about integrity and fighting the good fight, that is.
CBS owns CNET. It is one thing to note that CNET's claims to future reliability are not weak. A person is now well founded to question their independence from CBS for the foreseeable future. HOWEVER,
Posting the required verbiage one's employer has foisted off on you is not some sign of weakness or moral turpitude. I am a person who has, repeatedly, left jobs because I felt they were morally questionable, from my early days at a telemarketing center to my most recent foray into real estate.
Pretty much every job on this earth requires SOME level of ethical compromise though, if you think about it long and hard enough.
The real criticism here should be of CBS for bullying, not against the victims of their bullying. CBS has basically just ruined CNET's brand. CBS can dump CNET, but CNET can't dump themselves.
Music, ideas, words - these are not physical things. Me not being able to make a copy of it doesn't mean I don't have it tucked away in my brain. Taken at its most literal, everyone who has ever heard or seen anything copyrighted is violating the copyright. This of course is all the more reason that it is insipid for those who support copyright to argue as if it has anything to do with property in the classical sense of the word.
THAT is the issue.
You can't have it both ways, tempting as it is to toss the word "theft" back and forth.
So many sites on the net seem to me to be fronts for someone to promote their own product. Wait... where was I going with this? CBS doesn't even HAVE their own stupid product though. They have commercials.
Lucky me I don't have to watch CBS unless there's a football game on. Who's got the Superbowl this year anyhow? Please, not CBS?
Incidentally, even your nod towards pragmatism is misguided, as sometimes the government NEEDS to be able to prosecute even when the victim doesn't want to come forward.
The issue is that what he did was not illegal AT ALL, therefore he should not be prosecuted.
I'm of the opinion you're still straining to find any excuse for the law to be involved in what is merely a violation of terms of service - terms of service that the organizations involved saw fit not to even punish him by denying his service for violating.
Stop making excuses, will you please? The man's dead now. Can you not at least be honest now that the Feds have a good bloodguilt going on, or do we need a few more people to die on the altar of draconian IP enforcement before it dawns on you that maybe some digital copies of free documents are not something worth ruining a life over?
The founding fathers of this nation pulled off a staggering upset to create it. Yeah sure, they created a slave state that would later become a world spanning global empire for greed, but at the time it was progress....
Don't be a fatalist. Things get better, then they get worse, then they get better. Fight for the better.
There is such a thing in the world as being mistaken. For example, sorting through dozens of posts on the same topic to find the various plea bargains could be confusing.
It is not, however, difficult to distinguish between violating a terms of service agreement and hacking into a network. Six months or six centuries, the government is lying and in the process of harassing a law abiding citizen has cost us the life of a brilliant young computer scientists and human rights activist.
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Heh
And they are going to want their pound of flesh from the creators......
On the post: Dear HBO, Disney, Netflix Et Al: Fragmenting Online TV Lets Piracy Keep Its Biggest Advantage
Preach it
Amen brother. And ditto for the comment about advertising. People will pay a SMALL premium to avoid advertising, but do not like being forced to pay tons and tons for it.
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The Answer
I'm thinking wireless is the thing that will finally allow that to happen in a way the government/corporate diad can't shut down, but that would need to be a fully wireless internet, which still leaves the hardware gurus in control.
Peer to peer wireless without any central registration necessary....? Maybe? Does that already exist? I don't think that exists.
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Candles
Long live the wax cylinder!
On the post: The Grand Unified Theory On The Economics Of Free
Re: Re: Who's in control of the scarce?
I suspect the way to go about making movies for entertainment is to cast about for people who want a certain kind of movie made, or else write a story and pitch the idea of making the movie, then looking for people to fund the project.
There are legitimate concerns about the business model of using the free to market the scarce, but none of them are worth trading in our civil rights for, and that is the root problem. Technology has advanced to the point that it is now impossible to hide the fact that IP laws directly violate ideas of free expression and civil rights concerning free speech and press.
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Re: I Don't Guess Mike is Answering
Ah well...
On the post: The Grand Unified Theory On The Economics Of Free
I Don't Guess Mike is Answering
In order to do that, you might consider giving copies of your music away. Reason being, copying your music is free anyway. The only way you ever get, or got, paid was by getting the government to threaten people with jail time and heavy fines for doing something they really don't need you for to begin with. That's not nice of you, and indeed it is not some sort of innate right you have.
If you find it hard to make money singing and dancing, you might consider some other line of work, and sing and dance for fun like most of the rest of us do.
Not meaning any offense, but I am worn out by the requirements you and other artists put on our lives, then get upset that we are all somehow putting you out somehow.
I can get free music every Sunday at church. You know why? Because they have a message that the music helps sell.
Do you have a message? I mean, apart from, "Please give me money?"
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Re: to hell with "rights holders"
sans the colorful language. =)I mean it looks good when you write it though...
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Re: Catholic Church and Dark Ages
Oh God, I almost started to try to explain it to you.
*facepalm*
On the post: 'Under American Law, Anyone Interesting Is A Felon' - Tim Wu On The Prosecution Of Aaron Swartz
Solution
Yes, we are going to discuss things rationally, attempt to identify allies, try to gin up passion and support, and lobby for peaceful change. We're going to study the economy, see if there are other parts of it that tie into this, see what we can do to change those as well.
We're going to organize, think, act with conscious integrity and fight the good fight.
Yes, that is exactly what we are going to do. Because that is what works. It is what THEY did to get us here, in fact. All except the parts about integrity and fighting the good fight, that is.
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Re: ...... ok reality check
Darn I wish there was an edit feature.
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...... ok reality check
Posting the required verbiage one's employer has foisted off on you is not some sign of weakness or moral turpitude. I am a person who has, repeatedly, left jobs because I felt they were morally questionable, from my early days at a telemarketing center to my most recent foray into real estate.
Pretty much every job on this earth requires SOME level of ethical compromise though, if you think about it long and hard enough.
The real criticism here should be of CBS for bullying, not against the victims of their bullying. CBS has basically just ruined CNET's brand. CBS can dump CNET, but CNET can't dump themselves.
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No, it's not theft
THAT is the issue.
You can't have it both ways, tempting as it is to toss the word "theft" back and forth.
Otherwise, interesting piece.
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All Over the Net
Lucky me I don't have to watch CBS unless there's a football game on. Who's got the Superbowl this year anyhow? Please, not CBS?
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Re: Geniuses take heed
No, not just apathy. There are a lot of people still making excuses for the government.
Mind numbing.
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Re: Re: "Misguided"?
The issue is that what he did was not illegal AT ALL, therefore he should not be prosecuted.
Period.
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Re: Re: "Misguided"?
Stop making excuses, will you please? The man's dead now. Can you not at least be honest now that the Feds have a good bloodguilt going on, or do we need a few more people to die on the altar of draconian IP enforcement before it dawns on you that maybe some digital copies of free documents are not something worth ruining a life over?
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Re: Re: Re: F.T.S.
The founding fathers of this nation pulled off a staggering upset to create it. Yeah sure, they created a slave state that would later become a world spanning global empire for greed, but at the time it was progress....
Don't be a fatalist. Things get better, then they get worse, then they get better. Fight for the better.
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Re: Re: Six Months
It is not, however, difficult to distinguish between violating a terms of service agreement and hacking into a network. Six months or six centuries, the government is lying and in the process of harassing a law abiding citizen has cost us the life of a brilliant young computer scientists and human rights activist.
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Orin Kerr
Not sure why that dood dislikes that site....
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